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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Seriously? [View all]niyad
(113,105 posts)5. 11 reasons bernie lost this thing fair and square:
11 reasons why Bernie Sanders lost this thing fair and square
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VALLEJO, CA - MAY 18: Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders speaks at a campaign rally at Waterfront Park on May 18, 2016 in Vallejo, California. A day after winning the Oregon primary, Bernie Sanders is campaigning in California ahead of the state's presidential primary on June 7. (Photo by Justin Sullivan/Getty Images)
Bernie Sanders exceeded all primary season expectations and was en route to building something of a real movement. But rather than locking in those gains and settling in for a long-haul effort, hes opted for a legacy-busting temper tantrum instead, heading out the (primary) door in a cloud of whining, conspiracy mongering, and blame casting. Its a bizarre finale to what was undoubtedly an incredible run. So here are some observations, not because it mattershes lostbut because his claims of victimhood are absolute bullshit and need to be corrected.
1. If you plan for a coup, youve already lost
Lets just take a moment to appreciate what Sanders is trying to accomplish herehe knows hes lost the election. Hes all but acknowledged it. Which is why hes now focused so heavily on getting the establishment superdelegates to overturn the election in his favor. Like a despotic dictator, he is so sure of his supremacy that he sneers at the choices of his electorate and seeks to callously toss them aside. He dishonestly tells his supporters that theres a conspiracy standing between him and victory.
Not only is this undemocratic, its outright delusional. These are the same superdelegates representing the same establishment hes repeatedly bashed and even sued. These are the superdelegates he spent the first year of his campaign blasting as an affront to the democratic process and illegitimate. NOW, things are different. Having lost the election, he expects these supers to overturn the will of the electorate, including the heavy preferences of key growth party demographics like Latinos and African Americans, in order to hand the nomination to the loser of the contest.
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3. No, Sanders wont do better than Clinton against Trump.
Current polling has Clintons negatives baked in. They are her floor. Current polling doesnt have Sanders negatives baked in. They are his ceiling. And dear god, there is plenty in Sanders background to feed the Republican Noise Machine for the general election. And by the end of the cycle, his negatives would match those of Clintons.
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/5/23/1529938/-11-reasons-why-Bernie-Sanders-lost-this-thing-fair-and-square
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thank you for pointing out those particular points. alas, facts do not matter to some.
niyad
Jun 2016
#98
The cognitive dissonance is really going to hurt when Sanders endorses HRC next week...
JCMach1
Jun 2016
#19
They don't really "get" our relationship to Bernie because theirs is so cultish, and ours isn't.
pdsimdars
Jun 2016
#41
Bernie drew a lot of supporters who've never paid attention to elections before.
Lord Magus
Jun 2016
#37
It's amazing how they fail to see how damn illogical their argument is (or they just think we are
Skwmom
Jun 2016
#28
I think you have something there. I am just too rational and smart to dumb myself down
pdsimdars
Jun 2016
#42
Hillary is still not the nominee. Anyone serious about "not Trump" should push for Bernie
pdsimdars
Jun 2016
#44
Isn't it interesting that they automatically assume that all the HRC supporters would switch?
KitSileya
Jun 2016
#109
He is not a poor working person who is depending on these fucking liars to improve things
onecaliberal
Jun 2016
#108
And out of the three last candidates, the one in last place, with less votes was Sanders.
lunamagica
Jun 2016
#115
Polls predicting an event five months away? Please. BTW, those polls are already changing
lunamagica
Jun 2016
#122
Yes but unless the FBI recommends indicting Hillary & it pains me 2 say as a Bernie supporter, she WILL be our nominee.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jun 2016
#103
Why? You apparently don't have anything to say, so who wants to waste any time on that
pdsimdars
Jun 2016
#126
The fact that anyone is still discussing Sanders at this point is what is amazing.
mikehiggins
Jun 2016
#110
Those over 60, or thereabouts (the young!) have been watching these 'games' unfold for decades
slipslidingaway
Jun 2016
#67
Yes, Hillary has the nomination sewn up, I'll concede that... but only if the FBI elects NOT to indict.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jun 2016
#106
You're right, the FBI does not indict people, but I thought it did recommend indictments to DOJ, which makes the decision.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jun 2016
#135
I'd suggest turning up your hearing aid because you apparently haven't really listened yet
pdsimdars
Jun 2016
#89
You are exactly 100% correct. I don't take them seriously either. It's another manipulation tactic.
GoneFishin
Jun 2016
#101
I'm not worried about the GE turnout; most of the BS supporters even say they....
dubyadiprecession
Jun 2016
#129