2016 Postmortem

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115. No. There have been too many of these little "incidents" for it to be a coincidence.

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Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:25 PM

Jun 2016

If you were on the receiving end you would see it.

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In from canvassing, Bernie supporters said media says HRC is nominee, why vote [View all] amborin Jun 2016 OP

Clinton didn't do it. The AP did Fresh_Start Jun 2016 #1

bullshit larkrake Jun 2016 #6

bull pucky larkrake Jun 2016 #9

If you really think she has power over the associated press, then maybe she really should win. eastwestdem Jun 2016 #45

Considering... JSup Jun 2016 #63

Clinton, the media and their owners are a seamless continuum. Ron Green Jun 2016 #10

this^^^^^^^^^^ wendylaroux Jun 2016 #80

What they said. N/t warrprayer Jun 2016 #128

Why the media pounds her every chance they get.... apcalc Jun 2016 #81

Herself and media have same Wall St owners. Nt HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #134

Do you really believe that? n/t FourScore Jun 2016 #16

Yes, I do Fresh_Start Jun 2016 #27

So true, HRC campaign was just as suprised by this as anyone. They had big plans for tomorrow night. eastwestdem Jun 2016 #47

I believe it too. LAS14 Jun 2016 #124

Clinton supporters are, if anything, exceptionally credulous. Maedhros Jun 2016 #129

DEM ESTABLISHMENT BEHIND IT... CORRUPTION ON AN EPIC SCALE! UNIFY? WHAT'S THAT? CorporatistNation Jun 2016 #18

I can't tell anymore if this is snark. Tortmaster Jun 2016 #54

Its not snark, they actually believe that stuff. nt stevenleser Jun 2016 #91

"I am not a crook!" LOL. senz Jun 2016 #103

But that fact doesn't fit the narrative of evil Hllary, so they will ignore it. nt BreakfastClub Jun 2016 #19

Don't even waste your breath. Some are so blinded with their bias, they have lost still_one Jun 2016 #56

Very well put rock Jun 2016 #78

Except there's this: NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #72

ummm. I'll let reddit respond to you Fresh_Start Jun 2016 #76

Like talking to a tea partier... quickesst Jun 2016 #82

I believe differently. Enthusiast Jun 2016 #92

AP says they did it all by themselves Fresh_Start Jun 2016 #104

No. There have been too many of these little "incidents" for it to be a coincidence. Enthusiast Jun 2016 #115

get real. nt Land of Enchantment Jun 2016 #107

you should consider your own advice nt Fresh_Start Jun 2016 #111

Ironic handle for one who endorses the same old, same old. I have voted since 1972. McGovern. Land of Enchantment Jun 2016 #131

uh, yeah..... alittlelark Jun 2016 #117

As I see it, just one more in a long string of dirty Clinton tricks Jarqui Jun 2016 #118

math is not treacherous. amazing that sanders voters quit so easily eh? nt msongs Jun 2016 #2

The OP seems to ignore that there are other issues, and elected offices on the ballot still_one Jun 2016 #57

Hillary won a long time ago. So I don't see how she could "only win by these means." BzaDem Jun 2016 #3

No shot months ago...If true it is evidence of blatant corruption Armstead Jun 2016 #34

Yeah, winning more votes than your opponent is "corruption." BzaDem Jun 2016 #52

Evidence? How so? apcalc Jun 2016 #84

yeah, she "won" before the first vote was cast amborin Jun 2016 #60

This is well within historical norms. This was obvious. We should celebrate the first female nominee Trust Buster Jun 2016 #4

You keep posting that. Please elaborate on those "historical norms" FourScore Jun 2016 #21

Take Sanders himself. He recognized then Senator Obama before Hillary ceded and long before Trust Buster Jun 2016 #29

You don't understand what is happening, do you? n/t FourScore Jun 2016 #31

Sure do, I understood that Hillary wrapped up the nomination on Super Tuesday. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #32

That's what I thought. n/t FourScore Jun 2016 #35

Tonight is a night to find common ground. For instance, your screen name and my avatar reflect Trust Buster Jun 2016 #37

There's still plenty to vote for. RandySF Jun 2016 #5

Hillary didn't do anything. And the media simply reported facts. YouDig Jun 2016 #7

Why do you assume the Clinton campaign did it? Renew Deal Jun 2016 #8

Because the AP knew just who to contact today. Barack_America Jun 2016 #12

It might be a setup, but from AP Renew Deal Jun 2016 #14

it just MIGHT be possible that these people are SMART enough to find out who is who without msongs Jun 2016 #15

The AP is in frequent contact with *all* superdelegates throughout the entire election cycle. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #24

and you know this how? apcalc Jun 2016 #83

In what fantasy universe does this actually matter? Even a narrow win in CA meant NOTHING for Bernie Zynx Jun 2016 #11

Bernie was slated to win California by a significant margin and it would have humiliated HRC and sho amborin Jun 2016 #61

Based on? All polling and demographic work had it with a small Hillary lead Zynx Jun 2016 #71

Cheating isn't winning. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #13

umm BERNIE himself said the process is NOT RIGGED and he knew the rules before playing -> msongs Jun 2016 #17

If voters are upset SBS can't win... it's because their candidate lied that he had a path. bettyellen Jun 2016 #25

We know what we saw and heard. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #26

She hasn't cheated one damn bit. That is a lie, and it reflects poorly on you. nt BreakfastClub Jun 2016 #22

+1000 JudyM Jun 2016 #40

If Hillary loses Cali, than what will you say? nt Jitter65 Jun 2016 #20

I've got news for you. The whole reason behind this LibDemAlways Jun 2016 #36

Not according to the OP JohnnyRingo Jun 2016 #53

hearing M$M declare HRC the nominee is not "seeing writing on wall" amborin Jun 2016 #64

I'm not sure how you think everything will turn around... JohnnyRingo Jun 2016 #138

LMAO RogerM Jun 2016 #23

Amborin, her supporters know what she is. They don't care. senz Jun 2016 #28

are you telling us her ploy worked? azurnoir Jun 2016 #30

it well might amborin Jun 2016 #42

but it's not a done deal yet, the ploy doesn't work unless it's allowed to azurnoir Jun 2016 #43

Sounds just like why caucuses are undemocratic, btw. apcalc Jun 2016 #85

I think AP could have sat on this for 24 hours, okasha Jun 2016 #33

Don't worry. By tomorrow there will be so many LibDemAlways Jun 2016 #38

You are so caught up in irrational hatred that you can't see straight. writes3000 Jun 2016 #50

you are incorrect; HRC would have lost California in the most humiliating manner and it would have c amborin Jun 2016 #65

Hilary has not won the nomination. She doesn't have the numbers. senz Jun 2016 #39

Pledged delegates vote at the convention too anigbrowl Jun 2016 #41

Obviously. But they are pledged. SDs are "soft," they can change. senz Jun 2016 #48

Bandwagon Effect TheFarS1de Jun 2016 #44

Because of news i had to talk my daughter into voting marlakay Jun 2016 #46

I hope this gets the discussion it deserves tomorrow. What they did is a scandal. senz Jun 2016 #49

I'm with you!!! gopiscrap Jun 2016 #51

All these young people voting for the first time felix_numinous Jun 2016 #55

They know unity is not possible. djean111 Jun 2016 #58

Well here's the thing... Adrahil Jun 2016 #59

it does matter; she was going to lose CA and be embarrassingly revealed as the weak and disliked amborin Jun 2016 #67

The polls said it was going to be close onenote Jun 2016 #75

she originally had a 63% lead in California, and Bernie was slated to win! mortifying for HRC amborin Jun 2016 #87

Since Sanders goal was to win California to help his case with SDs onenote Jun 2016 #89

Sanders had issues getting people to vote period MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #62

"If Bernie loses California, this is on the HRC campaign " NCTraveler Jun 2016 #66

yes, bec canvassing revealed Bernie had huge support here among all demographics amborin Jun 2016 #68

Link to the canvassing numbers. nt. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #69

Even if your wild conspiracy theory was true (which it's not) alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #70

Bernie caught off guard? how do you propose to control the corrupt complicit media? amborin Jun 2016 #88

Even if your theory is true (it's not) all it shows is that Bernie is too weak to play hardball alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #95

They must be pretty low information voters or fairweather supporters then. onenote Jun 2016 #73

This is the reason Sanders lost Txbluedog Jun 2016 #74

Welcome to DU warrprayer Jun 2016 #133

What makes you think her supporters won't stay home too? apcalc Jun 2016 #77

"If Bernie loses California, this is on the HRC campaign RandySF Jun 2016 #79

You're supposed to say that with a bowed head and a frown, I think. randome Jun 2016 #98

Kabuki elections. jalan48 Jun 2016 #86

I actually agree that this should not have been done. I disagree that its Hillarys fault. Unless... stevenleser Jun 2016 #90

No campaign canvasses on election day frazzled Jun 2016 #93

Agreed...the OP didn't canvas today and neither did this husband alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #114

how dare you impugn me or my OP! you know zip about canvassing or campaigns amborin Jun 2016 #145

ROFL alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #146

welcome to ignore amborin Jun 2016 #147

you know NOTHING! first, i posted this yesterday June 6; second THERE WAS CANVASSING TODAY, ALSO amborin Jun 2016 #144

Revolution? Guess not. randome Jun 2016 #94

Revolutions take time, as Bernie has said. senz Jun 2016 #101

So all the conspiracy-mongering about Sanders having 'lost' means nothing? randome Jun 2016 #106

No, cheating is cheating. No one likes that. senz Jun 2016 #112

What if Sanders wins? nt asuhornets Jun 2016 #96

Neither candidate can win from the primaries. It's too close. senz Jun 2016 #100

This message was self-deleted by its author asuhornets Jun 2016 #102

Too bad you deleted your comment. I wouldn't have alerted. senz Jun 2016 #109

the majority of 2383 that is needed in 2026.. she short by 200 ish. she should get that tonite. asuhornets Jun 2016 #113

She is short by 571 delegates and cannot get that today. senz Jun 2016 #120

Deliberate voter suppression. senz Jun 2016 #97

Yep. +1 dchill Jun 2016 #105

Do they don't care about the Senate and other elections on the ballot ? JI7 Jun 2016 #99

This is silly MFM008 Jun 2016 #108

And let's not forget that voter suppression has been a hallmark of Time for change Jun 2016 #110

If it makes you feel any better marlakay Jun 2016 #116

Now it should be clear to all why the announcement was made before the primaries ended Doctor_J Jun 2016 #119

If Bernie loses California, it's on Bernie's supporters. Period. tarheelsunc Jun 2016 #121

If Hillary loses the General Election, it's on Hillary's supporters. Period. [n/t] Maedhros Jun 2016 #132

Well she is. As for why one should vote that is up to them. arely staircase Jun 2016 #122

It's hard to predict what will happen. Perhaps some Clinton supporters won't bother to totodeinhere Jun 2016 #123

If something you see on the news can make you not vote, then voting is not for you anyway. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #125

Thank you! tonyt53 Jun 2016 #126

Nothing would stop my vote. NOTHING. And these kids can't go out because they're having a sad. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #127

+10000000000 treestar Jun 2016 #141

Smells like David Brock warrprayer Jun 2016 #130

enraged is a healthy response Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #135

WAAAAAAAH!!!!!! MohRokTah Jun 2016 #136

The corporate media is so incredibly desperate to subvert democracy. Why? mhatrw Jun 2016 #137

It's on them if they don't vote treestar Jun 2016 #139

Psst...Hillary locked it up in March. LexVegas Jun 2016 #140

What's "totally unconscionable" is your dismissal of the voters because you didn't get your guy. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #142

this will go down in history as one of the all time greatest campaign dirty tricks Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #143

Gore has been declared the winner in Florida! davidn3600 Jun 2016 #148