2016 Postmortem

amborin

(16,631 posts) Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:17 AM Jun 2016

In from canvassing, Bernie supporters said media says HRC is nominee, why vote [View all]

My husband repeated this when I got home. He said the news he saw said
NBC said that Hillary now had enough delegates and had won the nomination.

This is unbelievable treachery.

If Bernie loses California, this is on the HRC campaign and the corrupt media.

Totally unconscionable, unbelievably corrupt, to try to depress the Bernie vote.

If HRC wins California, it's because of this outrageously evil tactic

Hillary supporters, think about this: a candidate who resorts to this does so because they can only win by these means.

Believe me, I and the canvassing team tonight are enraged.

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In from canvassing, Bernie supporters said media says HRC is nominee, why vote [View all] amborin Jun 2016 OP

Clinton didn't do it. The AP did Fresh_Start Jun 2016 #1

bullshit larkrake Jun 2016 #6

bull pucky larkrake Jun 2016 #9

If you really think she has power over the associated press, then maybe she really should win. eastwestdem Jun 2016 #45

Considering... JSup Jun 2016 #63

Clinton, the media and their owners are a seamless continuum. Ron Green Jun 2016 #10

this^^^^^^^^^^ wendylaroux Jun 2016 #80

What they said. N/t warrprayer Jun 2016 #128

Why the media pounds her every chance they get.... apcalc Jun 2016 #81

Herself and media have same Wall St owners. Nt HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #134

Do you really believe that? n/t FourScore Jun 2016 #16

Yes, I do Fresh_Start Jun 2016 #27

So true, HRC campaign was just as suprised by this as anyone. They had big plans for tomorrow night. eastwestdem Jun 2016 #47

I believe it too. LAS14 Jun 2016 #124

Clinton supporters are, if anything, exceptionally credulous. Maedhros Jun 2016 #129

DEM ESTABLISHMENT BEHIND IT... CORRUPTION ON AN EPIC SCALE! UNIFY? WHAT'S THAT? CorporatistNation Jun 2016 #18

I can't tell anymore if this is snark. Tortmaster Jun 2016 #54

Its not snark, they actually believe that stuff. nt stevenleser Jun 2016 #91

"I am not a crook!" LOL. senz Jun 2016 #103

But that fact doesn't fit the narrative of evil Hllary, so they will ignore it. nt BreakfastClub Jun 2016 #19

Don't even waste your breath. Some are so blinded with their bias, they have lost still_one Jun 2016 #56

Very well put rock Jun 2016 #78

Except there's this: NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #72

ummm. I'll let reddit respond to you Fresh_Start Jun 2016 #76

Like talking to a tea partier... quickesst Jun 2016 #82

I believe differently. Enthusiast Jun 2016 #92

AP says they did it all by themselves Fresh_Start Jun 2016 #104

No. There have been too many of these little "incidents" for it to be a coincidence. Enthusiast Jun 2016 #115

get real. nt Land of Enchantment Jun 2016 #107

you should consider your own advice nt Fresh_Start Jun 2016 #111

Ironic handle for one who endorses the same old, same old. I have voted since 1972. McGovern. Land of Enchantment Jun 2016 #131

uh, yeah..... alittlelark Jun 2016 #117

As I see it, just one more in a long string of dirty Clinton tricks Jarqui Jun 2016 #118

math is not treacherous. amazing that sanders voters quit so easily eh? nt msongs Jun 2016 #2

The OP seems to ignore that there are other issues, and elected offices on the ballot still_one Jun 2016 #57

Hillary won a long time ago. So I don't see how she could "only win by these means." BzaDem Jun 2016 #3

No shot months ago...If true it is evidence of blatant corruption Armstead Jun 2016 #34

Yeah, winning more votes than your opponent is "corruption." BzaDem Jun 2016 #52

Evidence? How so? apcalc Jun 2016 #84

yeah, she "won" before the first vote was cast amborin Jun 2016 #60

This is well within historical norms. This was obvious. We should celebrate the first female nominee Trust Buster Jun 2016 #4

You keep posting that. Please elaborate on those "historical norms" FourScore Jun 2016 #21

Take Sanders himself. He recognized then Senator Obama before Hillary ceded and long before Trust Buster Jun 2016 #29

You don't understand what is happening, do you? n/t FourScore Jun 2016 #31

Sure do, I understood that Hillary wrapped up the nomination on Super Tuesday. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #32

That's what I thought. n/t FourScore Jun 2016 #35

Tonight is a night to find common ground. For instance, your screen name and my avatar reflect Trust Buster Jun 2016 #37

There's still plenty to vote for. RandySF Jun 2016 #5

Hillary didn't do anything. And the media simply reported facts. YouDig Jun 2016 #7

Why do you assume the Clinton campaign did it? Renew Deal Jun 2016 #8

Because the AP knew just who to contact today. Barack_America Jun 2016 #12

It might be a setup, but from AP Renew Deal Jun 2016 #14

it just MIGHT be possible that these people are SMART enough to find out who is who without msongs Jun 2016 #15

The AP is in frequent contact with *all* superdelegates throughout the entire election cycle. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #24

and you know this how? apcalc Jun 2016 #83

In what fantasy universe does this actually matter? Even a narrow win in CA meant NOTHING for Bernie Zynx Jun 2016 #11

Bernie was slated to win California by a significant margin and it would have humiliated HRC and sho amborin Jun 2016 #61

Based on? All polling and demographic work had it with a small Hillary lead Zynx Jun 2016 #71

Cheating isn't winning. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #13

umm BERNIE himself said the process is NOT RIGGED and he knew the rules before playing -> msongs Jun 2016 #17

If voters are upset SBS can't win... it's because their candidate lied that he had a path. bettyellen Jun 2016 #25

We know what we saw and heard. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #26

She hasn't cheated one damn bit. That is a lie, and it reflects poorly on you. nt BreakfastClub Jun 2016 #22

+1000 JudyM Jun 2016 #40

If Hillary loses Cali, than what will you say? nt Jitter65 Jun 2016 #20

I've got news for you. The whole reason behind this LibDemAlways Jun 2016 #36

Not according to the OP JohnnyRingo Jun 2016 #53

hearing M$M declare HRC the nominee is not "seeing writing on wall" amborin Jun 2016 #64

I'm not sure how you think everything will turn around... JohnnyRingo Jun 2016 #138

LMAO RogerM Jun 2016 #23

Amborin, her supporters know what she is. They don't care. senz Jun 2016 #28

are you telling us her ploy worked? azurnoir Jun 2016 #30

it well might amborin Jun 2016 #42

but it's not a done deal yet, the ploy doesn't work unless it's allowed to azurnoir Jun 2016 #43

Sounds just like why caucuses are undemocratic, btw. apcalc Jun 2016 #85

I think AP could have sat on this for 24 hours, okasha Jun 2016 #33

Don't worry. By tomorrow there will be so many LibDemAlways Jun 2016 #38

You are so caught up in irrational hatred that you can't see straight. writes3000 Jun 2016 #50

you are incorrect; HRC would have lost California in the most humiliating manner and it would have c amborin Jun 2016 #65

Hilary has not won the nomination. She doesn't have the numbers. senz Jun 2016 #39

Pledged delegates vote at the convention too anigbrowl Jun 2016 #41

Obviously. But they are pledged. SDs are "soft," they can change. senz Jun 2016 #48

Bandwagon Effect TheFarS1de Jun 2016 #44

Because of news i had to talk my daughter into voting marlakay Jun 2016 #46

I hope this gets the discussion it deserves tomorrow. What they did is a scandal. senz Jun 2016 #49

I'm with you!!! gopiscrap Jun 2016 #51

All these young people voting for the first time felix_numinous Jun 2016 #55

They know unity is not possible. djean111 Jun 2016 #58

Well here's the thing... Adrahil Jun 2016 #59

it does matter; she was going to lose CA and be embarrassingly revealed as the weak and disliked amborin Jun 2016 #67

The polls said it was going to be close onenote Jun 2016 #75

she originally had a 63% lead in California, and Bernie was slated to win! mortifying for HRC amborin Jun 2016 #87

Since Sanders goal was to win California to help his case with SDs onenote Jun 2016 #89

Sanders had issues getting people to vote period MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #62

"If Bernie loses California, this is on the HRC campaign " NCTraveler Jun 2016 #66

yes, bec canvassing revealed Bernie had huge support here among all demographics amborin Jun 2016 #68

Link to the canvassing numbers. nt. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #69

Even if your wild conspiracy theory was true (which it's not) alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #70

Bernie caught off guard? how do you propose to control the corrupt complicit media? amborin Jun 2016 #88

Even if your theory is true (it's not) all it shows is that Bernie is too weak to play hardball alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #95

They must be pretty low information voters or fairweather supporters then. onenote Jun 2016 #73

This is the reason Sanders lost Txbluedog Jun 2016 #74

Welcome to DU warrprayer Jun 2016 #133

What makes you think her supporters won't stay home too? apcalc Jun 2016 #77

"If Bernie loses California, this is on the HRC campaign RandySF Jun 2016 #79

You're supposed to say that with a bowed head and a frown, I think. randome Jun 2016 #98

Kabuki elections. jalan48 Jun 2016 #86

I actually agree that this should not have been done. I disagree that its Hillarys fault. Unless... stevenleser Jun 2016 #90

No campaign canvasses on election day frazzled Jun 2016 #93

Agreed...the OP didn't canvas today and neither did this husband alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #114

how dare you impugn me or my OP! you know zip about canvassing or campaigns amborin Jun 2016 #145

ROFL alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #146

welcome to ignore amborin Jun 2016 #147

you know NOTHING! first, i posted this yesterday June 6; second THERE WAS CANVASSING TODAY, ALSO amborin Jun 2016 #144

Revolution? Guess not. randome Jun 2016 #94

Revolutions take time, as Bernie has said. senz Jun 2016 #101

So all the conspiracy-mongering about Sanders having 'lost' means nothing? randome Jun 2016 #106

No, cheating is cheating. No one likes that. senz Jun 2016 #112

What if Sanders wins? nt asuhornets Jun 2016 #96

Neither candidate can win from the primaries. It's too close. senz Jun 2016 #100

This message was self-deleted by its author asuhornets Jun 2016 #102

Too bad you deleted your comment. I wouldn't have alerted. senz Jun 2016 #109

the majority of 2383 that is needed in 2026.. she short by 200 ish. she should get that tonite. asuhornets Jun 2016 #113

She is short by 571 delegates and cannot get that today. senz Jun 2016 #120

Deliberate voter suppression. senz Jun 2016 #97

Yep. +1 dchill Jun 2016 #105

Do they don't care about the Senate and other elections on the ballot ? JI7 Jun 2016 #99

This is silly MFM008 Jun 2016 #108

And let's not forget that voter suppression has been a hallmark of Time for change Jun 2016 #110

If it makes you feel any better marlakay Jun 2016 #116

Now it should be clear to all why the announcement was made before the primaries ended Doctor_J Jun 2016 #119

If Bernie loses California, it's on Bernie's supporters. Period. tarheelsunc Jun 2016 #121

If Hillary loses the General Election, it's on Hillary's supporters. Period. [n/t] Maedhros Jun 2016 #132

Well she is. As for why one should vote that is up to them. arely staircase Jun 2016 #122

It's hard to predict what will happen. Perhaps some Clinton supporters won't bother to totodeinhere Jun 2016 #123

If something you see on the news can make you not vote, then voting is not for you anyway. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #125

Thank you! tonyt53 Jun 2016 #126

Nothing would stop my vote. NOTHING. And these kids can't go out because they're having a sad. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #127

+10000000000 treestar Jun 2016 #141

Smells like David Brock warrprayer Jun 2016 #130

enraged is a healthy response Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #135

WAAAAAAAH!!!!!! MohRokTah Jun 2016 #136

The corporate media is so incredibly desperate to subvert democracy. Why? mhatrw Jun 2016 #137

It's on them if they don't vote treestar Jun 2016 #139

Psst...Hillary locked it up in March. LexVegas Jun 2016 #140

What's "totally unconscionable" is your dismissal of the voters because you didn't get your guy. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #142

this will go down in history as one of the all time greatest campaign dirty tricks Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #143

Gore has been declared the winner in Florida! davidn3600 Jun 2016 #148