2016 Postmortem

slipslidingaway

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43. Clinton breaks a California promise

Sat May 28, 2016, 03:39 PM

May 2016

http://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/editorials/article/Clinton-breaks-a-California-promise-7945454.php

"Hillary Clinton’s refusal to keep a promise to debate Sen. Bernie Sanders in California was obviously based on her assumption that the nomination is hers and that there is no need to risk further exposure in an uncontrolled setting.

If her premise were true, it might make sense from a purely strategic standpoint, even if it would represent a flat-out retreat from a pledge she made in February to participate in a California debate in May. The Clinton campaign no doubt figured that whatever flak she might encounter for the broken promise would be preferable to the potential of a gaffe or awkward debate moment that might go viral.

However, a Public Policy Institute of California poll released late Wednesday suggested that state voters do not necessarily agree that the Democratic primary is a settled issue..."

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Forget Trump. Hillary Clinton should debate Bernie Sanders [View all] cali May 2016 OP

Clinton has already debated Sanders several times, and participated in some Town Halls with him.... George II May 2016 #1

It's that old "keeping one's word" thing... ljm2002 May 2016 #3

But in this case there is no "word" to keep. Speaking of which, Jane and Bernie Sanders... George II May 2016 #9

They do need to release their tax returns. n/t ljm2002 May 2016 #25

Bullshit. There is rock solid proof that she made that commitment. cali May 2016 #27

It was a scheduled debate Rosa Luxemburg May 2016 #33

That may all be true, but your last and spurious claim. cali May 2016 #11

I didn't say she promised it only to Bernie and his supporters. I said she NEVER promised it... George II May 2016 #19

oh dear your forgot to provide any "concrete proof". oh well msongs May 2016 #34

Nope. It's in the op, dear. cali May 2016 #37

To Debate, Or NOT To Debate... kboun May 2016 #20

Forget Sanders. He doesn't rate. seabeyond May 2016 #2

and neither do the voters. B Calm May 2016 #12

And neither do Californians. High handed and dismissive tends to turn off voters cali May 2016 #13

Sanders didn't debate her in Kansas, I guess he's dismissive to Kansans, and.... George II May 2016 #24

He wasn't asked to and he didn't make a commitment to. cali May 2016 #30

Why not, let's just have debates until he finally wins one. itsrobert May 2016 #4

Forget California, California doesn't rate Fumesucker May 2016 #5

I'm feeling for the south right now floppyboo May 2016 #10

How about all the other states that haven't had debates (like about 40 of them) Sanders didn't.... George II May 2016 #26

He wasn't asked. Duh. cali May 2016 #31

How has this got anything to do with what I wrote? maybe you meant to reply to the OP? floppyboo May 2016 #60

Yes, she agreed to. But apparently the people in California aren't important enough polly7 May 2016 #6

You guys still digging up those 8 year old videos to "prove" that she "promised" to debate in CA? George II May 2016 #14

Don't have to dig up anything ....... it's all over the place since she backed out polly7 May 2016 #18

I know it's all over the place, and it's being used to justify some mythical story about a "promise" George II May 2016 #21

Derp. nt. polly7 May 2016 #23

She has nothing to gain from another debate, and, frankly, neither does Bernie. Arkansas Granny May 2016 #7

Damn right! She's got the GE in the bag! B Calm May 2016 #15

Yes, yes. Bernie wrote the editorial. She broke her word. How very hilly. cali May 2016 #16

Somebody compared it to 2008 quite rightly I believe nt BootinUp May 2016 #8

What is left to debate, that hasn't already been debated?? dubyadiprecession May 2016 #17

Issues important to California or that those there may not have had access to hearing yet maybe? polly7 May 2016 #22

How about poverty? pengu May 2016 #29

She's as much a coward as Trump. n/t Jester Messiah May 2016 #28

This is exactly it. We are not going to see much of her for jwirr May 2016 #47

I don't remember all this hand wringing when Obama said no more debates in 2008, even though Metric System May 2016 #32

So you are blaming Bernie's supporters... ljm2002 May 2016 #35

Once Bernie became irrelevant rock May 2016 #36

You mean except for giving her word. cali May 2016 #38

Exactly rock May 2016 #39

People with integrity don't have to be made to keep their word. nt. polly7 May 2016 #40

I don't think that applies rock May 2016 #41

Of course it applies. Or are the people of California just not worthy of her precious time?? nt. polly7 May 2016 #42

To waste their time on a (once-again) irrelevant candidate rock May 2016 #45

Not even worth a reply, actually, or the time you took to type it, though I do feel bad you polly7 May 2016 #46

polly7 you wound me to the quick! rock May 2016 #52

Clinton breaks a California promise slipslidingaway May 2016 #43

I think Sanders should debate Martha Stewart for charity. barrow-wight May 2016 #44

Half a lemon will clear that right up. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #50

Save it for the debate! barrow-wight May 2016 #54

Some stains are easier to cover up than others. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #55

Is that why the Sanders never had children? barrow-wight May 2016 #56

I suspect there's a classless cheap shot in there somewhere, but it isnt well crafted Warren DeMontague May 2016 #58

Whatever do you mean? barrow-wight May 2016 #59

As a Democratic voter in California, I was looking forward to the Clinton-Sanders debate. PufPuf23 May 2016 #48

Forget trump greymattermom May 2016 #49

No reason...she has won... beachbumbob May 2016 #51

Bernie is no longer relevant nor is he a viable candidate.... FarPoint May 2016 #53

Bernie should go with a message: "She made a promise and backed out. Think she's going to stand JudyM May 2016 #57