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(12,769 posts) Sat May 28, 2016, 02:16 PM May 2016

Hmmm, UPDATED: Did Sanders uses “shoot the gays” rap song at CA rally? [View all]

UPDATED: Did Sanders uses “shoot the gays” rap song at CA rally?

UPDATE: This story gets weirder and weirder. A journalist friend pointed out to me that he found some video from the Sanders campaign (via ABC), from the same event, that uses different music than the DMX song. I’m including that video below.

But things get even stranger than that. There’s live Fox News video of the same event that includes no music whatsoever. (The Fox tape goes mute at one point, but when it’s not muted there should be music, like there is on the Sanders campaign tape, and there isn’t.)

So there are three different videos of the “same” event. Now, is it possible these are different events in California on the same day, using the same actors and the same backdrop? Yes. But still, this is very strange.

Could this just be another lying smear attempt by Hillary supporters?

http://americablog.com/2016/05/sanders-plays-kill-gays-rap-song-ca-rally.html

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Hmmm, UPDATED: Did Sanders uses “shoot the gays” rap song at CA rally? [View all] Live and Learn May 2016 OP

Please gawd...make it stop...it's like the chair conspiracy all over again...n/t Henhouse May 2016 #1

It's hard to believe Bernie would use profanity filled popular music at his rallies anywhere. bjo59 May 2016 #37

Ok, so hopefully you will post that comment on the original thread. JudyM May 2016 #79

I posted a comment in the original thread with the same link as in the OP Time for change May 2016 #102

Hey, good for you, anyway. This place is crazy. JudyM May 2016 #112

Yes, please let the false smears from Clinton fans STOP!!!! Degrading. Revelations of dishonesty highprincipleswork May 2016 #86

Yeah, the chair lie made some people look like idiots. Lying idiots. I can see why you hate it. cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #90

yes New Earth May 2016 #2

Could be a pro-Hill prank, but the Hill campaign can't be that stupid senz May 2016 #3

but 1 song being played at a rally nullifies a 50 yr record of support of LGBT rights don't you know corkhead May 2016 #6

Desperate times, indeed senz May 2016 #11

Really! And all the comments on the Hillary thread were like Time for change May 2016 #18

Idiots without consciences leftinportland May 2016 #78

Every single time I have estimated teh stoopuditiy of the Clinton campaign hootinholler May 2016 #42

Cant ever beat the idiots at Sanders campaign workinclasszero May 2016 #55

Their supporters certainly can be, though. It was a VERY bad day for the Clinton campaign. This Doctor_J May 2016 #65

Direct link to Bernie Supporter's video itsrobert May 2016 #4

And at the link I provided, you can find the version where it isn't played (abc news). nt Live and Learn May 2016 #5

So, a Hillary Supporter is pretending to be a Bernie Supporter and posting it on Twitter itsrobert May 2016 #7

Or, a Bernie supporter found it online and shared it not even knowing what the song was about Live and Learn May 2016 #9

Agreed....nt Henhouse May 2016 #57

That's what I think. The supporters simply did not know the song lyrics until now. bravenak May 2016 #100

That is the same angle as the youtube video. It's a dupe. Ash_F May 2016 #31

And here is Jiminy Cricket with your answer. Juicy_Bellows May 2016 #85

Of course it is Time for change May 2016 #8

I posted that link in response to this smear at the Hillary Clinton group Time for change May 2016 #10

Can we ask for a better set of adversaries? senz May 2016 #13

The ABC versiion was supplied by the Sanders Campaign itsrobert May 2016 #12

Oh get serious. senz May 2016 #14

And yet, the theme of this thread is Hillary Clinton captured the video, redubbed, and posted it to itsrobert May 2016 #17

Exactly where did you read Hillary did it? She is not that adept, she can't even use a password. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #19

And servers get wiped with a cloth. JimDandy May 2016 #89

Maybe this is stereotype but i doubt he has any idea of the music and lyrics JI7 May 2016 #15

Uhoh guys sounds like we got a Soundgate Joob May 2016 #16

This is rather strange pinebox May 2016 #20

True. It wouldn't matter either way but if it is another dirty trick of Hillary supporters Live and Learn May 2016 #22

Every minor mistake the Sanders campaign makes is not a Clinton conspiracy Generic Brad May 2016 #118

The song was not played. It is an overlay by a random youtube user who likes rap. Ash_F May 2016 #34

That sounds like a plausible hypothesis. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #77

Can you imagine if Clinton walked out to a song like this? KingFlorez May 2016 #21

Considering she has a history of pejorative remarks.... pinebox May 2016 #24

Can you imagine the outrage if Bernie supporters dubbed over a Clinton rally with such? nt Live and Learn May 2016 #25

Evidence? KingFlorez May 2016 #27

Posted. Reading helps. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #32

Yeah, not buying it KingFlorez May 2016 #36

Your prerogative but glad you admitted your previous post was wrong. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #39

Glad your day is made, dear KingFlorez May 2016 #44

Thanks, you have a blessed day too. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #45

DU Hillary supporters never read the articles. you can always tell. nt m-lekktor May 2016 #52

You should read things Ash_F May 2016 #35

And I don't believe the whole "HILLLARY EDITED IT TO MAKE BERNIE LOOK BAD!!!!!!!!!!!" theory KingFlorez May 2016 #38

I don't believe that either Ash_F May 2016 #46

I don't blame you. Everyone knows Hillary is far too incompetent to possibly do such a thing. Live and Learn May 2016 #47

So incompetent that she beat Sanders in multiple states and is way ahead in the delegate count KingFlorez May 2016 #50

A quick analysis itsrobert May 2016 #23

I'll go with ABC but I am sure you will go with the Twitter version. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #26

It's actually the Sanders version itsrobert May 2016 #28

Is that another lie posted as fact? nt Live and Learn May 2016 #30

Conspiracy! GASP! Scootaloo May 2016 #107

The one with DMX is obviously the original...the other two are bad attempts at coverup...nt Henhouse May 2016 #51

Your sudden/delayed interest is noted: cui bono May 2016 #93

It's transparently fake. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #29

True or not, I would give Sanders a pass on this. There's no way of looking at it as intentional Metric System May 2016 #33

It is not true and the real story is americablog's poor journalism. Ash_F May 2016 #41

They didn't retract it... Henhouse May 2016 #56

That is the same video from this youtube user. Ash_F May 2016 #61

Why? His whole campaign is a joke. He is running for POTUS. If he can't get competent staff KittyWampus May 2016 #53

The song was not played at the rally Ash_F May 2016 #64

If this mistake is your bar for "unqualified" Nevernose May 2016 #84

It wasn't a mistake. The song was never played. n/t cui bono May 2016 #95

Amen Time for change May 2016 #105

Disgusting barrow-wight May 2016 #40

What? Bernie not being aware of all the lyrics to a rap song? Yeah, truly disgusting! Live and Learn May 2016 #43

This message was self-deleted by its author barrow-wight May 2016 #48

That you don't think it is really is disgusting. barrow-wight May 2016 #49

Bernie not hiring competent staff or properly training volunteers or vetting what's going on... KittyWampus May 2016 #54

You know what is VILE? catnhatnh May 2016 #72

What does someone's longevity on this website have to do with the cogency of ideas? barrow-wight May 2016 #88

Bernie Sanders standing up for gay rights & LGBT equality in 1995 senz May 2016 #58

Bernie Sanders defends gay soldiers, 1995 senz May 2016 #59

Bernie Sanders on Gay Marriage senz May 2016 #60

Is Bernie Sanders the most LGBT-friendly candidate? senz May 2016 #62

Followed immediately by a chair throwing competition! Doctor_J May 2016 #63

I'm hoping it gets out into the media. senz May 2016 #76

John Aravosis is as trustworthy as Paul Krugman. (Meaning, do not trust at all John Aravosis.) CobaltBlue May 2016 #66

It's been sad watching good people go bad in this primary senz May 2016 #83

Bernie Sanders: decades ahead of the country on gay rights & ending the war on drugs senz May 2016 #67

Wouldn't the ABC video prove that DMX wasn't used? mainer May 2016 #68

For any logical observer, that should be all the proof that's needed. senz May 2016 #75

Bernie Sanders was way ahead of the curve on gay rights senz May 2016 #69

Of course it's another lying smear attempt by Hillary supporters. 99Forever May 2016 #70

Or just bad reporting oberliner May 2016 #74

Exactly. She's sinking and they're clawing. senz May 2016 #81

On LGBT Rights, Bernie Leads and Hillary Follows senz May 2016 #71

"Could this just be another lying smear attempt by Hillary supporters?" oberliner May 2016 #73

It's Capehart and Bruce Rappaport all over again. mainer May 2016 #80

Having listened to enough of the song (the original video) SusanCalvin May 2016 #82

No. He didn't. Hissyspit May 2016 #87

You know how we'll know? If they continue to try and push it even after it has been debunked. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #91

The difference between a DU topic du jour and a career shattering FBI investigation. Bonobo May 2016 #92

BOOM vintx May 2016 #94

+a brazillion!!! cui bono May 2016 #96

*mic drop* Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #97

Surely you're not suggesting that some people here are deliberately trying to change the subject? Warren DeMontague May 2016 #101

Sanders supporter admits to faking “shoot the gays” video oberliner May 2016 #98

Do you have any evidence that he is a Sanders supporter? Bjorn Against May 2016 #103

Read what the guy says and judge for yrself. Americablog has links to him talking about it. emulatorloo May 2016 #106

I read the words of a person who just admitted he doctored video Bjorn Against May 2016 #109

Check his twitter or FB oberliner May 2016 #111

I personally have no interest in researching. I've just suggested some avenues you might try. emulatorloo May 2016 #113

Sorry no interest in researching an admitted liar to find out if he is telling the truth this time Bjorn Against May 2016 #115

What is that supposed to mean? emulatorloo May 2016 #120

I did not call you a liar, I called the person who doctored the video a liar Bjorn Against May 2016 #121

Ok emulatorloo May 2016 #123

Yes oberliner May 2016 #110

You obviously need to do more living and learning blackspade May 2016 #99

ENOUGH! Hoax done by Sanders supporter as "Social Experiment" emulatorloo May 2016 #104

Do you have a link? Time for change May 2016 #114

It is the same link Live and Learn gave us in the original post emulatorloo May 2016 #116

Here's a link Uponthegears May 2016 #119

I do not believe that Demsrule86 May 2016 #124

Of course it is. n/t RazBerryBeret May 2016 #108

These Sanders supporters and their social experiments. barrow-wight May 2016 #117

Rovian EndElectoral May 2016 #122