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2016 Postmortem

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cali

(114,904 posts)
Mon May 23, 2016, 07:25 AM May 2016

“What do we want? Gradual change! When do we want it? In due course!” [View all]

I think that line is a riot. In fact, much of the article I pulled it from is funny. Read the whole thing. It's worth it


Hillary Clinton Is The Jeb Bush Of The Left


Seventeen months ago, Jeb Bush announced over Facebook that he would be starting a Leadership PAC to “facilitate conversations with citizens across America” about whether he would be a good president.

“Onward,” he signed the note.

Through Washington, shockwaves pounded. A Leadership PAC? A listening tour? Can he even be stopped?

There were similarly reverential pronouncements of inevitability when Hillary Clinton released a sunny YouTube video announcing her presidential plans. Like Jeb, she put in the time in the policy trenches. She earned it. And like Jeb, she literally spent decades meeting donors, building teams, growing trust with party officials, fostering loyalties—doing everything right. Jeb and Hillary headed into their parties’ respective primaries with godlike name I.D.’s and rapper money. And everyone freaked out; the parties, after all, would decide—so how could they not win?

In terms of public policy, of course, the two have vast disagreements—particularly on the issues of abortion and LGBT rights. But stylistically and biographically, the pair have eery similarities—including their vulnerabilities. As a duo, they’ve given East Coast pundits ample opportunities to mortify themselves. Oversold and overestimated, the pair demonstrate just how meager is the appetite for centrist-leaning, dynastic optimists. Jeb’s defeat foreshadowed Clinton’s struggles. So the facts are hard to get around: Hillary is the Jeb of the left.

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/23/hillary-clinton-is-the-jeb-bush-of-the-left.html

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Bernie's entire career in govt has been incremental change, or nothing. JaneyVee May 2016 #1
Dude passed more amendments than any other congress critter cali May 2016 #4
We want it now or eventually!! Press Virginia May 2016 #2
What -I- want is not to lose the change we have by nominating someone who might lose to Trump brooklynite May 2016 #3
Anyone who doesn't think hill can lose to Trump is not living in reality cali May 2016 #6
And yet you back Hillary. Broward May 2016 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #5
"With all deliberate speed" merrily May 2016 #7
Hillary Clinton’s Mega-Donors Are Also Funding Jeb Bush pinebox May 2016 #9
Whoopsie. You just had to pull back that awful curtain nc4bo May 2016 #10
I no longer even buy that with all the talk of "free stuff" and "a muscular approach" to use of TheKentuckian May 2016 #11
"Trudge Up The Hill", as Obama put it. Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #12
"Oversold and overestimated... Hydra May 2016 #13
Jeb Bush lost in the primary...sooo...nt asuhornets May 2016 #14
Read the article and you'll find out why your response is a non-sequitur cali May 2016 #16
why Bernie's supporters always accuse people of not reading the OP? asuhornets May 2016 #17
I was being gracious. Either you read the piece and cali May 2016 #19
What change? Change implies something different from the established norm. Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #15
"What do we want?" "Ever-increasing oligarchic control!" Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #18
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