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Ghost Dog

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207. Specifics & details from both candidates re. Climate Change
Mon May 23, 2016, 07:11 AM
May 2016

extracted from the respective campaign websites. Care to compare, contrast and comment?

1. Clinton:

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/climate/

Generate enough renewable energy to power every home in America, with half a billion solar panels installed by the end of Hillary’s first term.

Cut energy waste in American homes, schools, hospitals and offices by a third and make American manufacturing the cleanest and most efficient in the world.

Reduce American oil consumption by a third through cleaner fuels and more efficient cars, boilers, ships and trucks.

Defend, implement, and extend smart pollution and efficiency standards, including the Clean Power Plan, which will prevent 3,600 premature deaths and 90,000 asthma attacks annually, and efficiency standards for cars, trucks and appliances that are already reducing energy costs for American households and businesses by over $75 billion per year.

Launch a $60 billion Clean Energy Challenge to partner with states, cities, and rural communities and give them the tools and resources they need to go beyond federal standards in cutting carbon pollution and expanding clean energy. The Clean Energy Challenge will also help ensure all Americans share in the benefits of a clean energy economy by encouraging solar and energy efficiency investments in low-income communities.

Invest in clean energy infrastructure, innovation, manufacturing and workforce developmentto make the U.S. economy more competitive and create good paying jobs and careers. Hillary has a comprehensive plan for making existing energy infrastructure cleaner and safer, unlocking new investment, and forging a climate compact with Canada and Mexico to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and accelerate clean energy deployment across the continent.

Ensure safe and responsible energy production. As we transition to a clean energy economy, we must ensure that the fossil fuel production taking place today is safe and responsible and that areas too sensitive for energy production are taken off the table. Hillary knows there are some places where we should keep fossil fuels in the ground or under the ocean.

Reform leasing on public lands. As president, Hillary would reform fossil fuel leasing and significantly expand clean energy production on public lands, from wind in Wyoming to solar in Nevada.

End wasteful tax subsidies for oil and gas companies. Oil and gas companies have enjoyed billions in tax breaks for decades. Hillary would end those wasteful subsidies and invest in clean energy.

Cut methane emissions across the economy. Hillary would cut emissions of methane, a powerful greenhouse gas, by 40-45 percent and put in place strong standards for reducing leaks from both new and existing sources.

Revitalize coal communities. Building a 21st century clean energy economy will create new jobs and industries, protect public health, and reduce carbon pollution. But we can’t ignore the impact this transition is already having on coal communities. Hillary’s $30 billion plan to revitalize coal communities will ensure coal miners, power plant operators, transportation workers, and their families get the respect they deserve and the benefits they have earned; invest in economic diversification and job creation; and make coal communities an engine of US economic growth in the 21st century, as they have been for generations.

Make environmental justice and climate justice central priorities. Across America, air pollution, water pollution, and toxic sites are disproportionately impacting low-income communities and communities of color—and climate change will make that impact even more severe. Hillary will set a bold national goal to eliminate lead poisoning as a public health risk within five years, create new economic opportunity by cleaning up the more than 450,000 toxic brownfield sites across the country, expand solar and energy efficiency solutions in low-income communities, and include the voices of community leaders, the environmental justice movement, and outside experts in taking on these challenges with a new Environmental and Climate Justice Task Force.

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/climate/


https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/factsheets/2015/07/26/renewable-power-vision/

First, Hillary Clinton will make it a top priority to fight efforts to roll back the Clean Power Plan. The Clean Power Plan is a crucial tool in our national strategy to reduce carbon pollution, level the playing field for and increase the deployment of renewable energy, and build a clean energy future. In the face of attacks from climate change deniers, we will need a champion in the White House to defend it and implement it effectively.

But smart federal standards set the floor, not the ceiling. We can and must go further.

Hillary Clinton will launch a Clean Energy Challenge that forms a new partnership with states, cities, and rural communities that are ready to lead on clean energy. She will outline this Challenge in detail in the coming weeks, and it will include:

Climate Action Competition: Competitive grants and other market-based incentives to empower states to exceed federal carbon pollution standards and accelerate clean energy deployment.

Solar X-Prize: Awards for communities that successfully cut the red tape that slows rooftop solar installation times and increases costs for businesses and consumers.

Transforming the Grid:Work with states, cities and rural communities to strengthen grid reliability and resilience, increase consumer choice and improve customer value.

Rural Leadership: Expand the Rural Utilities Service and other successful USDA programs to help provide clean, reliable, and affordable energy, not just to rural Americans but to the rest of the country as well.

As part of the Clean Energy Challenge, Clinton will ensure that every part of the federal government is working in concert to help Americans build a clean energy future. This includes:

Transmission Investment: Ensure the federal government is a partner, not an obstacle, in getting low-cost wind and other renewable energy to market.

Solar Access: Overcome barriers that prevent low-income and other households from using solar energy to reduce their monthly energy bills.

Tax Incentives: Fight to extend federal clean energy incentives and make them more cost effective both for taxpayers and clean energy producers.

Public Lands and Infrastructure: Expand renewable energy on public lands, federal buildings, and federally-funded infrastructure, including an initiative to significantly increase hydropower generation from existing dams across the US.

Innovation: Increase public investment in clean energy R&D, including in storage technology, designed materials, advanced nuclear, and carbon capture and sequestration. Expand successful innovation initiatives, like ARPA-e, and cut those that fail to deliver results.

But this is only part of a comprehensive energy and climate agenda.

This is just the beginning of the energy and climate strategy that Hillary will present over the coming months, including ways in which the Clean Energy Challenge will improve the efficiency of our buildings and modernize our transportation system, as well as major initiatives in the following areas:

Energy and Climate Security: Reduce the amount of oil consumed in the United States and around the world, guard against energy supply disruptions, and make our communities, our infrastructure, and our financial markets more resilient to climate-related risks.

Modernizing North American Infrastructure:Improve the safety and security of existing energy infrastructure and align new infrastructure we build with the clean energy economy we are seeking to create.

Safe and Responsible Production: Ensure that fossil fuel production taking place today is safe and responsible, that taxpayers get a fair deal for development on public lands, and that areas that are too sensitive for energy production are taken off the table.

Coal Communities: Protect the health and retirement security of coalfield workers and their families and provide economic opportunities for those that kept the lights on and factories running for more than a century.

Collaborative Stewardship: Renew our shared commitment to the conservation of our disappearing lands, waters, and wildlife, to the preservation of our history and culture, and to expanding access to the outdoors for all Americans.

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/factsheets/2015/07/26/renewable-power-vision/


2. Sanders:

https://berniesanders.com/issues/climate-change/

Cut U.S. carbon pollution by 40 percent by 2030 and by over 80 percent by 2050 by putting a tax on carbon pollution, repealing fossil fuel subsidies and making massive investments in energy efficiency and clean, sustainable energy such as wind and solar power.

Create a Clean-Energy Workforce of 10 million good-paying jobs by creating a 100% clean energy system. Transitioning toward a completely nuclear-free clean energy system for electricity, heating, and transportation is not only possible and affordable it will create millions of good jobs, clean up our air and water, and decrease our dependence on foreign oil.

Return billions of dollars to consumers impacted by the transformation of our energy system and protect the most vulnerable communities in the country suffering the ravages of climate change. Bernie will tax polluters causing the climate crisis, and return billions of dollars to working families to ensure the fossil fuel companies don’t subject us to unfair rate hikes. Bernie knows that climate change will not affect everyone equally – disenfranchised minority communities and the working poor will be hardest hit. The carbon tax will also protect those most impacted by the transformation of our energy system and protect the most vulnerable communities in the country suffering the ravages of climate change...

Ban fossil fuels lobbyists from working in the White House. Massive lobbying and unlimited super PAC donations by the fossil fuel industry gives these profitable companies disproportionate influence on our elected leaders. This practice is business as usual in Washington and it is not acceptable. Heavy-handed lobbying causes climate change skepticism. It has no place in the executive office.

End the huge subsidies that benefit fossil fuel companies. When fossil-fuel companies are racking up record profits, it is absurd to provide massive taxpayer subsidies to pad their already enormous earnings. After all, it is immoral that some in Congress advocate harsh cuts in Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security while those same people vote to preserve billions in tax breaks for the most profitable corporations in America.

Create a national environmental and climate justice plan that recognizes the heightened public health risks faced by low-income and minority communities. Low-income and minority neighborhoods will continue to be the hardest hit if we don’t act to stop climate change now. Ten years ago, Hurricane Katrina decimated the Gulf Coast, flooding 80 percent of the city of New Orleans. Some areas of the city were submerged in as much as 10 feet of water, and 28 percent of residents had no way to leave the city. Almost 100,000 African American residents who left New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina never returned. The reality of the impacts of the storm on the African American community in New Orleans exposed the broader trend that low-income and minority communities face the brunt of climate change impacts first and worst.

Bring climate deniers to justice so we can aggressively tackle climate change. It is an embarrassment that Republican politicians, with few exceptions, refuse to even recognize the reality of climate change, let alone are prepared to do anything about it. The reality is that the fossil fuel industry is to blame for much of the climate change skepticism in America. Bernie recently called for the Department of Justice to investigate Exxon Mobil, which may have not only known about the dangers of climate change, but has spent millions of dollars to spread doubt about the causes and impacts of burning fossil fuels.

Fight to overturn Citizens United. In a 5-4 decision in 2010 in the Citizens United case, the Supreme Court opened the floodgates for corporations and the super wealthy to spend unlimited and undisclosed money to buy our elected officials. The Supreme Court essentially declared that corporations, including fossil fuel corporations, have the same rights as natural-born human beings. This decision has enabled billionaires and special interests to increasingly control the political campaign finance system, and amounts to legalized bribery...


Embrace a science-based standard for carbon pollution emissions reductions. We have a very limited window of time to transition away from fossil fuels toward clean energy for all Americans to prevent a global temperature increase that will cause cataclysmic impacts. Bernie knows that to maintain a safe and healthy planet for our kids and grandchildren we must listen to the scientists who say we must decrease carbon pollution emissions by at least 80 percent from 1990 levels by 2050.

Put a price on carbon. Bernie agrees with leading economists on both ends of the political spectrum: a tax on carbon is one of the most straightforward and cost-effective strategies for quickly fighting climate change.

Protect the health of our children. Kids are uniquely threatened by air pollution from sources like coal plants and oil refineries. Children’s lungs are more sensitive to air pollution than adults. Climate change exacerbates existing air pollution problems, which will only increase the health impacts on children, especially those with respiratory diseases like asthma. As a father of four and a grandfather of seven, Bernie cares about leaving clean air and a healthy, livable planet for all of our kids and grandchildren.

Create clean, domestic energy alternatives to power our cars and trucks. The transportation sector accounts for about 26 percent of carbon pollution emissions. We must move our transportation sector beyond oil by running our cars and trucks on electricity generated by solar and wind power. We need efficient public transportation, advanced renewable fuels and high-speed passenger and cargo rail.

Ban Arctic oil drilling. Bernie knows that drilling in the Arctic Circle and the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge at a time when we face a serious climate emergency is unthinkable. Research shows that drilling in the Arctic is inconsistent with efforts to prevent catastrophic global temperature increases. The Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, which spans 19.6 million acres in Alaska and boasts the greatest biodiversity of any protected area north of the Arctic Circle, is too precious to put at risk from the detrimental consequences of oil production and extraction.

Ban offshore drilling. If we are serious about moving beyond oil toward energy independence, lowering the cost of energy, combatting climate change and cutting carbon pollution emissions, then we must ban offshore drilling. If there is a lesson to be learned from the 2010 BP oil spill disaster, it is that Congress must not open new areas to offshore oil drilling.

Stop dirty pipeline projects like the Keystone XL. Back in August 2011, Bernie was the first national politician to publicly oppose Keystone XL, because he saw that it would move us in exactly the wrong direction, toward greater dependence on fossil fuels, specifically tar sands oil, but also on one of the dirtiest and most expensive fossil fuels imaginable. Bernie was again the first presidential candidate to oppose the Bakken oil pipeline that would cross Iowa and the first to oppose the Northeast Energy Direct Pipeline that would bring fracked natural gas through New Hampshire. We need to invest in clean energy infrastructure, not lock ourselves into long-term payments and significant carbon pollution emissions for pipelines that could cause disastrous oil spills.

Stop exports of liquefied natural gas and crude oil. The Department of Energy has found that exporting even half of the natural gas already approved for export could raise U.S. prices by up to 54 percent. Oil and natural gas exports must be in the interest of consumers, the economy, our manufacturing sector and national security – not merely the interest of fossil fuel companies’ bottom line. Especially while we still import oil, we should be transitioning toward clean, sustainable energy instead of incentivizing more extraction and consumption of fossil fuels.

Stand with Vermont and other states to ban fracking for natural gas. Fracking threatens our air and water. Disposal of wastewater from fracking causes earthquakes. Oklahoma became the number one place for earthquakes on Earth this year because gas companies inject fracking fluid back into the ground. Fracking is a large-scale industrial process that doesn’t belong in anyone’s backyard or deserve exemption from laws that protect the health of our children. That’s why communities all over the country from New York to California and Texas to Colorado have stood up to the oil and gas industry and said they don’t want fracking in their backyards. Bernie was very proud when Vermont became the first state to ban fracking. We have clean energy solutions to climate change, and fracking is not one of them.

Ban mountaintop removal coal mining and invest in Appalachian communities. Across the Appalachian Mountain Range, coal companies are blowing up entire mountaintops to get at the thin coal seams below. The communities in the region are paying for this destructive practice in their health, their culture and their natural heritage. Bernie is in staunch opposition to this dirty and damaging practice and believes we must invest in Appalachian communities to help them transition to a clean, prosperous, and healthy future.

Close the loopholes that allow the chemical, oil and gas industries to pollute our air and water. Bernie served as mayor of Burlington, Vermont, which sits on one of the largest freshwater lakes in the United States, Lake Champlain. Bernie understands the importance of clean water practices and recognizes how it impacts communities. The federal Clean Water Act and Clean Air Act have reduced pollution, but they are always under attack by polluters who put profits before the health of our children and grandchildren.

Increase fuel economy standards to 65 miles per gallon by 2025. Recent fuel economy standards put us on track to reach 54.5 miles per gallon in 2025, which moves us in right direction, but still leaves us lagging behind the rest of the world. Japan is set to reach that level five years before us, and Europe will do even better, reaching over 65 miles per gallon by 2020. Bernie knows we can do more and make our cars internationally competitive by raising our fuel economy standards to 65 miles per gallon by model year 2025. This will save car owners money at the pump, cut carbon pollution emissions and create good-paying American jobs.

Protect public lands by promoting natural resource conservation and habitat preservation. Conservation of our public lands such as our National Parks and Forests are an American tradition and a vehicle for economic growth. Our conserved public land also serves an important role in not only preventing climate change but also in mitigating the catastrophic effects of climate change like floods, hurricanes and other extreme weather that have been increasing in frequency. Bernie is committed to ensuring that Americans have access to urban, suburban and rural recreational green space that are vital to our national heritage and our country’s tradition of recreation and conservation.

Work toward a 100 percent clean energy system and create millions of jobs. Scientists tell us we have a short time to make an aggressive cut in our carbon pollution emissions. Transitioning toward a completely clean energy system for electricity, heating, and transportation is not only possible and affordable it will create millions of good jobs, clean up our air and water and decrease our dependence on foreign oil.

Invest in clean, sustainable energy sources powered by the sun, wind and Earth’s heat. Massive and sustained investment in clean energy technology development and implementation can get us where scientists tell us we need to be. It’s no great secret that clean energy technologies are a good investment. We actually get more energy out of the money invested in sustainable energy technologies than we do out of fossil fuel. Clean energy technology has no associated fuel costs, which means there are no price spikes like we see with oil and gas. The cost of deploying solar panels has gone down by more than 80 percent since 2008, thanks to tax credits and federally funded research and development. Our national solar capacity will soon provide enough energy to power four million homes.

Similarly, wind tax credits spurred the development of wind farms that now provide enough power for 16.7 million American homes. In fact, wind provided almost 30 percent of all new domestic power capacity in the last five years. Last year, nearly 30 percent of the electricity used in Iowa came from the wind. The decreasing cost of wind and solar demonstrates that we can have a 100 percent clean energy future.

Invest in advanced renewable fuels and keep our energy dollars at home. Renewable fuels have become a key component of our national strategy to move beyond oil in the fight against climate change. Renewable fuels must be produced in a way that achieves our environmental and energy security goals. We must both ensure that our renewable fuels production is truly sustainable, and we must also prevent the oil companies from derailing our progress in developing cleaner and more sustainable alternatives to gasoline and diesel. We should emphasize new, clean technologies like cellulosic ethanol and algae-based fuels. Advanced biofuels have enormous potential to deliver dramatic reductions in carbon pollution and strengthen rural economies, all while keeping our energy dollars here at home instead of sending them overseas to oil oligarchs in Russia and the Middle East.

Invest in solar energy and put money back in the pockets of consumers. Bernie believes that solar energy is one of the most promising sources of clean energy for America’s future. That’s why he supports making billions of dollars of investments in renewable energy, like solar. Bernie recently introduced the Low Income Solar Act to increase low-income families’ access to solar energy by making it more affordable for people who own their own home and incentivize access to community solar projects. Investing in solar energy is just as important for the economy as it is for the Earth. Bernie supports solar net metering, which means that people who invest in solar should be able to offset the cost – or in some cases even make money – on their electric utility bill. He recognizes that as we lower the cost of solar energy and increase our use of solar, we can create hundreds of thousands of good-paying manufacturing and installation careers in this country.

Invest in making all American homes more energy efficient. Energy Efficiency is a “low-hanging fruit” because the investments made in energy efficiency are so effective in reducing carbon pollution emissions, and the return on investment is so quick. For every dollar invested in energy efficiency technologies, like weatherization and efficient light bulbs, energy customers can enjoy up to four dollars in savings. Bernie has long been a champion of the Weatherization Assistance Program (WAP), the Rural Energy for America Program (REAP), and the Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP) that help rural and low-income families make their homes more energy efficient and lower their energy bills. At a time when we spend on average of $350 billion a year on foreign oil, we must take every possible step to invest in cheaper energy here in the United States. That’s why Bernie recently introduced the Residential Energy Savings Act to provide federal loans to states to perform energy efficiency updates to provide homeowners with valuable energy savings.

Support American workers moving into clean energy jobs. Our transition to a clean energy economy has created hundreds of thousands of jobs all over the United States, and Bernie’s climate change plan will create millions more. But we must ensure our transition from fossil fuels to clean energy is a just transition for workers. That’s why Bernie is introducing the Clean Energy Workers Just Transition Act, which provides the most comprehensive package of benefits for workers, including extended unemployment benefits, education opportunities, health care and job training for those transitioning to a career in the clean energy industry. Additionally, the bill ensures that workers in the clean energy industry will be able to organize a union to ensure living wages and safe working conditions. It also makes billions of dollars of investments in communities most affected by a transition to a clean energy future.

Invest in an affordable energy storage solution that will allow us to fulfill our clean energy needs. Affordable energy storage technologies like batteries allow clean energy technologies like wind and solar to be integrated onto the electric grid – even when the wind is not blowing and the sun is not shining. Effective storage systems can affordably balance energy supply with demand by capturing energy at times when there is excess energy on the system for use during hours of high demand. Battery storage continues to develop and is becoming increasingly more affordable for families all over the country.

Build geothermal power plants to create full time family-wage jobs for operations, engineering, maintenance, and administration. Bernie believes that geothermal energy should play an important role in our country’s future energy portfolio. Geothermal systems can use the constant underground heat to provide heating when it is cool outside and to pull heat from buildings when it is warm outside. Geothermal energy power plants are less expensive than new modern natural gas plants and can be called on to produce power when the sun isn’t shining and the wind isn’t blowing. Geothermal conserves energy, reduces pollution and saves money all at once.Utility-Scale Clean Energy Generation. There are hundreds of thousands of roofs with solar panels, but research and technology developments have significantly improved sustainable energy technologies that are making large-scale clean energy an affordable reality. For example, advancements in utility-scale concentrated solar allows power from the sun to be stored for later use, even when the sun is not shining. Most importantly, concentrated solar power installations create permanent jobs and provide economic support for surrounding communities, which tend to be rural.

Enable greater consumer choice in energy. Americans should have the ability to choose affordable clean technologies for their home and businesses. Additionally, the electric utilities and fossil fuel industries should not be able to get in the way of that choice. Grid modernization technologies enable greater consumer choice and ultimately utility bill savings by making it easier for families to connect clean energy resources to the grid.

Begin a moratorium on nuclear power plant license renewals in the United States. Bernie believes that solar, wind, geothermal power and energy efficiency are proven and more cost-effective than nuclear – even without tax incentives – and that the toxic waste byproducts of nuclear plants are not worth the risks of the technology’s benefit. Especially in light of lessons learned from Japan’s Fukushima meltdown, Bernie has also raised questions about why the federal government invests billions into federal subsidies for the nuclear industry. We can have an affordable carbon-free, nuclear-free energy system and we must work for a safe, healthy future for all Americans.

Provide global clean energy funding to vulnerable countries. The United States should lead the international community in funding technology development and deployment solutions for the most vulnerable developing countries as part of any international agreement...


Build electric vehicle charging stations. In a country where nearly 30 percent of carbon pollution emissions come from the transportation sector, it is imperative that we end our dependence on gasoline. Vehicles that run on electricity are more efficient than internal combustion engines and can be powered with renewable energy resources like wind and solar. We need to support the development of vehicle charging stations that will allow us to drive cleanly and sustainably.

Build high-speed passenger and cargo rail. Our nation’s rail system is largely obsolete, even though our energy-efficient railroads move more freight than ever, and Amtrak’s ridership has never been higher. While Amtrak’s fastest train travels at an average speed of just 65 mph, high-speed rail now crisscrosses most of Europe, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea and China with trains that run up to 200 mph. Once we have a state-of-the-art rail system, we will not only be able to move passengers and cargo faster and more efficiently, we will make significant cuts in carbon pollution emissions that cause climate change and create millions of permanent family-wage jobs for electricians, pipe fitters and sheet-metal workers.

Make our cities more walkable and take more cars off the road. Public transit can move more people in fewer vehicles, which is good for clean air and reducing carbon pollution emissions. Public transportation saves enough electricity to power nearly 5 million homes in the United States. Despite the potential for public transit and biking to save Americans money and reduce emissions, the United States has a long way to go to make the roads safe for those who choose these alternative modes of transportation.

Update and modernize the energy grid. Some of our grid infrastructure has not been updated since it was first built in the 1920s and 1930s. This causes hundreds of avoidable power failures and interruptions each year. Today, power failures cost the economy $164 billion annually, stemming from impacts like lost productivity and wasted food. Those costs are only expected to increase as climate change causes more extreme weather, which can knock the power out. Additionally, our grid is highly centralized and therefore susceptible to cyber and physical attacks. Technology development in clean energy resources and electric grid improvements have enabled “smart” technologies, programs and policies to create a safer, more sustainable energy system. The “smart grid” offers real benefits for consumers and the environment.
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Convene a climate summit with the world’s best engineers, climate scientists, policy experts, activists and indigenous communities in his first 100 days. The United Nations Paris climate talks in December are an important milestone toward solving climate change, but even optimistic outcomes of these talks will not put the world on the path needed to avoid the most catastrophic results of climate change. We must think beyond Paris. In the first 100 days of Bernie’s Presidency, he will convene a summit of the world’s best climate experts to chart a course toward the healthy future we all want for our families and communities.

Lead countries in cutting climate change. Climate change is the greatest global challenge, and must be met with global solutions. The United States has contributed greatly to climate change, but also has the greatest opportunity and know-how to lead in implementing climate change solutions. The argument that we shouldn’t act until other countries do is falling by the wayside as China, India and many other countries have come to the table with initial commitments to take significant action to solve climate change.

Plan for peace to avoid international climate-fueled conflict. Changes in rainfall patterns, higher temperatures and more frequent natural disasters such as droughts and flooding due to climate change pose a direct threat to our global food and energy supply. In the United States, this could mean higher food and energy prices. In some developing countries, the effects could be even worse, and lead to temporary or more permanent situations where not enough food or water is available for everyone. This has the potential to result in an international climate-fueled conflict. Bernie believes that we must plan for peace now in order to prepare for this sort of dire conflict that is already beginning to unfold in parts of the world.

https://berniesanders.com/issues/climate-change/

I am completely mesmorized by Hillary [View all] Tavarious Jackson May 2016 OP
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That's all? Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #5
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California. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #111
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How do you feel about bombings, killings, outsourcing, and stuff like that there? Alex4Martinez May 2016 #71
He signs up just to say he used to be a Sanders supporter? HooptieWagon May 2016 #8
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I would have voted to leave it alone too... renate May 2016 #198
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I can honestly say, I have never read anything of Brock's! Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #7
Brock's stuff is posted constantly on DU, if you haven't read it you haven't read GD-P Fumesucker May 2016 #172
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+1 vintx May 2016 #31
Yup, just one more big, fat, steaming load of . . . uh . . . make-believe. pdsimdars May 2016 #48
PD, really? kstewart33 May 2016 #237
One month. Well, then. Please, proceed. libdem4life May 2016 #9
Instead of proving me wrong Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #10
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Ok Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #28
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They can't. procon May 2016 #23
Prove what, exactly? jeff47 May 2016 #29
Interesting they have no argument only attack you for your spelling and doc03 May 2016 #33
Look at the limited words Bernie uses. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #40
Dude, wait a minute. mac56 May 2016 #50
I'm not a candidate for POTUS. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #53
Oh, snap! LOL! Surya Gayatri May 2016 #134
Actually, Bernie speaks at a higher grade level than hilly or the yam cali May 2016 #98
There's an "E" in "AWE". N/T catnhatnh May 2016 #133
You didn't post any links to these great, highly-detailed Clinton speeches you praised. arcane1 May 2016 #38
Maybe Tavarous has read the transcripts of the Goldman Sachs speeches? mac56 May 2016 #45
It's Tavarious. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #56
Sorry. I know how much you dislike misspelling. mac56 May 2016 #57
Did you really read the Wall St speeches, Travairois? arikara May 2016 #144
It's Cher! n/t tazkcmo May 2016 #228
You're really bad at this. aikoaiko May 2016 #189
Welcome to the "we are paid Hillary shills" because we support Hillary leftofcool May 2016 #217
If you're not a Brockette, great. But there HAVE been a lot of anti-Bernie trolls here. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #239
LOL! pangaia May 2016 #12
English is my second language. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #30
Just out of curiosity, what's your native tongue? nt vintx May 2016 #32
Clintonese. timmymoff May 2016 #46
LOL. The preferred language of every Bernie Butter. n/t JimDandy May 2016 #64
No, but your post is hillaryous pangaia May 2016 #145
Yea, that's it. Condemn someone whose second language is English. leftofcool May 2016 #218
I've always been impressed by the depth of her knowledge and procon May 2016 #14
Thank you Saint Hillary for deceiving us in 1994 Baobab May 2016 #21
I guess I am not very eloquent in expressing myself. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #34
Don't worry, you did fine. procon May 2016 #95
So was her husband. bulloney May 2016 #123
I think she is smarter than Bill but yes Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #161
I've started to believe that also. Bill has a natural charisma, which Hillary lacks, MoonRiver May 2016 #230
She is definitely smarter than Bill. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #233
When you realize that the Average American IQ falls between 90 and 109 (74% of people), MoonRiver May 2016 #241
Guess not, Tovarich. bvf May 2016 #147
You did fine. Ignore the Berners. leftofcool May 2016 #219
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Not necessarily, I heard the Trump people are sadoldgirl May 2016 #104
That's funny. 😁. Purveyor May 2016 #20
You've got to learn how to do this better. No one goes from supporting one candidate to bjo59 May 2016 #25
It was not over night. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #36
I'm not trying to be anything but me. nt Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #37
You're not very good at this, are you? pmorlan1 May 2016 #27
A million dollars may buy a lot of trolls, but it doesn't buy good ones. HooptieWagon May 2016 #44
Oh the shame... pmorlan1 May 2016 #54
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Outsourced to Mom's basement. HooptieWagon May 2016 #84
My theory is that he outsourced it, maybe to her friends in Tata arikara May 2016 #146
Actually he is. Since his second language is English, I'd say it was darn good leftofcool May 2016 #220
Get a shot, it will clear up in a couple weeks larkrake May 2016 #35
You're in aw? mac56 May 2016 #39
I'm blown away Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #41
Aw, no. mac56 May 2016 #43
lol senseandsensibility May 2016 #160
You're probably impressed with how smart W is too. HooptieWagon May 2016 #52
you obviously need better training... choie May 2016 #42
Let me ask you.. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #47
Maybe intelligent. Certainly crafty. mac56 May 2016 #55
I bet her IQ is higher than any candidate that ran this year. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #58
Do you have a picture of her in your school locker? mac56 May 2016 #61
She is old enough to be my granny. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #62
that is obvious. nt grasswire May 2016 #94
Do you keep a photo of Bernie? leftofcool May 2016 #221
You know, this part is a big givaway passiveporcupine May 2016 #164
Yeah she's intelligent, so?? choie May 2016 #193
Reminds me when israel first decided to get into the forum/comment section trolling... Purveyor May 2016 #51
"Memorized," it's close enough. Mike__M May 2016 #90
This reads like satire. Shemp Howard May 2016 #49
I think the word you're looking for is "monetized" n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #59
Something you spew but can not prove. :) Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #65
Thread win. merrily May 2016 #73
Ah, another #BernieLostMe. Yeah, there's been a lot of that here. Personally, I don't buy it. merrily May 2016 #60
I usually skip all the Bernie Butter posts. This one was stealthy,though. n/t JimDandy May 2016 #70
Yeah, stealthy. That's it. That's the ticket! merrily May 2016 #79
: ) JimDandy May 2016 #82
My issues with Nevada are not about the chair. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #86
? What are you on about? I didn't say anything about the chair or about what your issues are. merrily May 2016 #101
Word of advice. As a Clinton supporter, don't try to lecture people about "Playing the victim" Scootaloo May 2016 #108
Part of the BB 2016 program passiveporcupine May 2016 #168
After what happened in Nevada exactly? Hmmm... oregonjen May 2016 #63
I don't mean that. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #67
Bullshit. HooptieWagon May 2016 #78
Proof of that serious allegation? NT Eric J in MN May 2016 #80
Sure thing. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #89
That webpage says some Sanders delegates Eric J in MN May 2016 #93
WHOA! JimDandy May 2016 #97
I am a Freshman at a small Northeastern college. I never thought these letters were real, until... Warren DeMontague May 2016 #66
Well done! Shemp Howard May 2016 #99
Hee hee! Well done. n/t bvf May 2016 #150
All that's missing was JackInGreen May 2016 #151
Penthouse? Blue_In_AK May 2016 #179
that was excellent renate May 2016 #199
Lather, rinse, repeat.... Bluenorthwest May 2016 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #69
Bull. cali May 2016 #75
*mesmerized Brock should only hire good spellers. agracie May 2016 #77
Good spellers are $1 a post, bad spellers do 4 for $1... Yurovsky May 2016 #181
I did not know that. Now I too am "mesmorized". ;-) agracie May 2016 #183
OMG! Is that all you have? leftofcool May 2016 #223
Another term for that is dazed and confused. leveymg May 2016 #81
LOL:Member since: Mon May 16, 2016, 10:02 A Million bucks at work! insta8er May 2016 #83
I'm not paid but since you brough it up Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #88
Yeah dude, whatever you say. LOL insta8er May 2016 #122
Yes, but 15 Million of that went to me. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #128
Amazing how many people signed up that week Warren DeMontague May 2016 #127
Welcome to DU rock May 2016 #85
You sound constipated DJ13 May 2016 #87
I BEEN MESMO-RIZED!!!! tabasco May 2016 #91
I want a t-shirt that says that now! nt Bonobo May 2016 #96
It's mesmerized, cali May 2016 #92
Perhaps the poster meant to say the post was memorized. guillaumeb May 2016 #115
!!! AtomicKitten May 2016 #155
Aw. I'm in "aw' that you guys keep trying this and actually think anyone buys it. Autumn May 2016 #100
I see the welcome wagon came out to great you. hrmjustin May 2016 #102
Seems it's contagious. bvf May 2016 #149
Don't you mean welkum waggin came owt tew great ewe? arikara May 2016 #159
Yes, he has been greatly greated. LiberalAndProud May 2016 #169
Yeah, sure. Kall May 2016 #103
You were never a Sanders supporter. Period. 840high May 2016 #105
There is just a huge raft of new posters that have floated 7wo7rees May 2016 #106
Heehee - floaters. nt nc4bo May 2016 #140
I see Clinton's nostalgia for the cold war extends to recreating Soviet style propaganda n/t That Guy 888 May 2016 #109
You would know. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #112
It's actually pretty easy. Shemp Howard May 2016 #119
Mesmerized or low blood sugar? guillaumeb May 2016 #113
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #114
174 posts in 6 days? rickford66 May 2016 #116
There appears to be a consistent number coming through on 7wo7rees May 2016 #131
Glad that's working out for ya. Miles Archer May 2016 #117
Well done Tygrbeat fanboi swoon! Arazi May 2016 #118
Uh huh. Well, I used to be a hard core Hillary supporter, One Black Sheep May 2016 #120
Hmm. You joined up two days ago, okasha May 2016 #190
Sorry, NOT BUYING What You're Selling! Do You Realize How Much This ChiciB1 May 2016 #121
I'm mesmerized too...(link below) EndElectoral May 2016 #125
I like her specifics, too. wildeyed May 2016 #126
I am sure she will be our next POTUS Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #136
I am working hard to make that a reality! wildeyed May 2016 #142
I am completely mesmorized by bullshit posts. lol Loudestlib May 2016 #129
Welcome to DU! If this had been a "mesmerized" by Bernie post it'd have a gazillion rec's by now. grossproffit May 2016 #130
Welcome and thanks for your post. I have always said that Hillary is a policy wonk and riversedge May 2016 #132
"when she gets a new position, she puts her heart and soul into it. " rickford66 May 2016 #156
The only recs you have ever had on this site are for anti-Sanders OPs Ash_F May 2016 #135
I had to change clothes Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #137
Vote your conscious. Ash_F May 2016 #138
Oh my passiveporcupine May 2016 #174
Youre a sock, then? bunnies May 2016 #244
Ssssshhhhaaaa POW!!! KelleyKramer May 2016 #247
Glad you are supporting Hillary workinclasszero May 2016 #139
Cool story, bro. Goblinmonger May 2016 #141
Did you copy that wall of words from a script? (nt) w4rma May 2016 #143
Which aspects of her policies do you like better than Bernie's and why? andym May 2016 #148
. Doctor_J May 2016 #152
She certainly laid out her plans world wide for fracking Rosa Luxemburg May 2016 #153
Aw wasn't the word you were looking for. LiberalAndProud May 2016 #157
Ignore the nasty responses. They will be gone in a few weeks! stevenleser May 2016 #158
Nope. Not hardly. bvf May 2016 #203
As long as the TOS is upheld regarding support for the nominee, I'll gladly sacrifice stevenleser May 2016 #206
I am totally entranced by my Lava LampŠ. QC May 2016 #162
Ah, has she done reprises of this wonderful speech? k8conant May 2016 #163
She was right Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #184
You are so full of it. Arugula Latte May 2016 #165
I think you know what I know passiveporcupine May 2016 #176
I'm open to a lot of things but Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #185
I wasn't addressing you passiveporcupine May 2016 #187
I got to shake her hand on Friday Gothmog May 2016 #166
I think so too. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #186
Met WJC once GoneOffShore May 2016 #191
Look Everyonr....Another come to Hillary thread. Exilednight May 2016 #167
It's a shame we must imagine the music track. LiberalAndProud May 2016 #170
Nice! bjo59 May 2016 #202
.. frylock May 2016 #171
Oh please. I couldn't even read that without rolling my eyes. Calista241 May 2016 #173
Welp at least your eye muscles got a work out underthematrix May 2016 #177
LOL. Blue_In_AK May 2016 #175
Brilliant satire! Fumesucker May 2016 #178
How 'bout another cup of Hot Brockolate? dchill May 2016 #180
...................................................................... bkkyosemite May 2016 #182
Mesmerized is what you would have to be in order to write that OP aikoaiko May 2016 #188
K&R! sheshe2 May 2016 #192
"Ph'nglui Mglw'nafh Hillary R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn..!" Katashi_itto May 2016 #194
SHE IS CLEARLY THE MOST ADVANCED LIFE-FORM THIS UNIVERSE HAS EVER PRODUCED Warren DeMontague May 2016 #195
This is a good one! bjo59 May 2016 #201
It's spelled 'mesmerized' cliffordu May 2016 #196
You are too funny! Go Bernie all the way to the DNC convention. akbacchus_BC May 2016 #197
Good for you! We all have our allegiance akbacchus_BC May 2016 #200
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #204
LOL newrevolution May 2016 #205
Specifics & details from both candidates re. Climate Change Ghost Dog May 2016 #207
Thank you. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #208
I am completely mortified by Hillary. Cobalt Violet May 2016 #209
Mortified is a strong word. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #210
If I could pin her down on her policies, it would allow me to judge them. (nt) w4rma May 2016 #211
Look at her votes Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #212
I believe your sudden conversion as much as I believe in Keebler elves living in trees. Vinca May 2016 #213
I believe you believe. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #214
Oh, wait. It's not a Keebler elf. It's a Trump-loving comment troll. Vinca May 2016 #215
Explain to me her plans to get us to single payer health care. libtodeath May 2016 #216
she won't. Amimnoch May 2016 #224
I think you meant mesmerized --after Franz Mesmer panader0 May 2016 #222
Wow, you are taking a lot of heat here gollygee May 2016 #225
LOL. Thanks for the funny thread, it was great! nt. polly7 May 2016 #226
Another one! Tue May 17, 2016 212 posts = Troll Phlem May 2016 #227
Sure you are. hobbit709 May 2016 #229
Another low-post-count sudden convert from Bernie? Wow. Jester Messiah May 2016 #231
Ah, the old 'new members are plants' meme. kstewart33 May 2016 #236
Memes are memes for a reason. Jester Messiah May 2016 #245
Thanks for this. nt onehandle May 2016 #232
Who wrote this for you? n/t RKP5637 May 2016 #234
Bullshit. There are no "former Bernie supporters." They don't exist. Nice try though. ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #235
Oh they most certainly do exist. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #238
You and I both know better. ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #240
I am a former Bernie supporter, after what happened in Nevada I could no longer support.... AlbertCat May 2016 #242
you have created a certain phenomenon....more replies to this OP than your total number of posts... islandmkl May 2016 #243
Well fuck me, I'm convinced! bitchkitty May 2016 #246
I do hope this OP is getting paid for this TimPlo May 2016 #248
Cool story, bro. mr blur May 2016 #249
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