2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: NOT a "loyalty oath" or pledge, or a "demand", just curious as to where we currently stand. [View all]Xyzse
(8,217 posts)At the moment, if she does become the Nominee, I think I will still vote for her.
It all depends on who I theoretically think will be able to do less damage to the country.
This involves a lot of factors to me.
-Policies
-Record
-Opposition (Will Progressive values be more active/engaged, dependent on who becomes President)
-Projection of the Future(My own predictions as to what will probably happen)(Is it better to cruise in the Status Quo, or allow someone to push things somewhere even the wrong direction which would force some sort of change)
-Political Favor (Who is behind them)
Most of those factors arguably currently favor Clinton in my view.
I do note, that whomever the President becomes, there are checks and balances that will keep them from screwing things up bad. So to me, whomever the President becomes will set the agenda. I don't know what Trump or Clinton will do in their agenda, which is why it scares me a bit. Trump, since he's an unknown and he hasn't made any actual promises as his agenda seems to be open, while Clinton has been in many many positions in different important issues that makes her liable to bring the country further to the Right as well. Her agenda is much better, however sometimes, with the compromises given, maybe it should have been left alone.
It does not matter if many of her supporters think that she's got this, or it is her time, or that Bernie can't win. She goes in to this fight with glaring negatives that many refuse to address. It is why many Sanders supporters can't help but say, if she loses, it is her fault alone, as those negatives have not really been addressed and they will be addressed come general election. It can't be that just by bringing up her record Sanders or his supporters are being negative, that is merely going after the messenger while ignoring the issue. Her campaign to me has been a constant attack on any one who questions her record, her pandering and actions. That may work on the primaries, but not in the General Election, and saying Trump is much worse, even if true, is such a weak enticement to have someone vote for them.
So yes, I can still say I will vote for her if she is the nominee in the General Election, beyond that would be her supporters' job. I feel like supporting her fully is rewarding her for bad behavior. I do not want to give any sort of legitimacy towards Republicans since they gain it if they get a Republican in the White House, but again, that is because I do not want to reward bad behavior.