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History doesn't matter to Hillary supporters in general... TCJ70 May 2016 #1
History is PRECISELY what matters. And that's why the OP is pure bullshit. Buzz Clik May 2016 #5
If that were true... TCJ70 May 2016 #9
The newest progressive wave in America began officially in 2008 Hortensis May 2016 #73
She doesn't have to be "progressive" to get my vote. She just has to competent, caring, and Jitter65 May 2016 #133
Well...she's missing two out of the three...n/t TCJ70 May 2016 #139
Is that why her campaign strategists seem stuck in a time warp? Warren DeMontague May 2016 #157
Yes. But there's a LOT of willful erasing going on there. dchill May 2016 #2
Got that right... Hillary a progressive? Yeah, that's why all those Rethugs are dumpin Trump and comin over to support her. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2016 #61
Where did you find that pic of Bernie when he got his redstateblues May 2016 #182
erasing , rewriting, obfuscating, ignoring Ferd Berfel May 2016 #115
Attacking people who disagree with you ... same as it ever was. JoePhilly May 2016 #3
Indeed Andy823 May 2016 #153
Over 100,000 posts, and heading to the finish line. Buzz Clik May 2016 #4
In your fantasies Buzz, dear friend cali May 2016 #6
No fantasy. Just waiting for you to get back... Buzz Clik May 2016 #21
A progressive democrat would support the most progressive candidate. Loudestlib May 2016 #30
Really! "A progressive democrat would support the most progressive candidate." Buzz Clik May 2016 #37
If you want to call a democrat that voted for the Iraq war, made themselves a millionaire Loudestlib May 2016 #46
Fine. You have your opinion. Buzz Clik May 2016 #48
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #58
Your opinion. Not mine. Buzz Clik May 2016 #67
I wouldn't mind if you forced your views. MadDAsHell May 2016 #171
To call a right-winger a progressive only serves to move both poles of the political spectrum Broward May 2016 #51
Are you referring to this chart? Rass May 2016 #147
It all depends on what your definition of "is" is. n/t RufusTFirefly May 2016 #148
Hillary's the one who gets to decide... not surprising then she appeals to Rethugs who can't wait to vote for her over Trump. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2016 #64
Hillary touts herself as Obama 3.0 Go Vols May 2016 #103
you think Lindsay Graham is cut of the same Cloth as Hillary simply because he disavows Trump? Sheepshank May 2016 #164
Half the repukes are getting behind her, how progressive can she be? nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2016 #177
If Hillary is progressive, guess that makes Ted Cruz a moderate. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2016 #192
Says the person with 11 hides... ljm2002 May 2016 #34
And another Sanders supporter demonstrates complete lack of ability to address the issue. Buzz Clik May 2016 #39
You're the pathetic one... ljm2002 May 2016 #41
Buzz Clik, maybe you haven't been a Democrat long enough to understand that Democrats won't shut up w4rma May 2016 #90
I am shamefully aware that a large fraction of Democrats spend all their time complaining. Buzz Clik May 2016 #94
When New Democrats start taking positive actions towards Wall Street criminals. w4rma May 2016 #97
I love the way you guys create your own fantasy world and pretend it's real. Buzz Clik May 2016 #99
You're either ignorant or lying, Buzz Clik. (nt) w4rma May 2016 #100
How sweet. I love an open mind. Let's just say ... Buzz Clik May 2016 #102
I love the way you Clintonites create your own fantasy world and pretend it's real. w4rma May 2016 #104
Very original. How old are you? Buzz Clik May 2016 #105
How sweet. I love an open mind. Let's just say ... w4rma May 2016 #107
I love it, your reply shows you the emptiness of so many of the Clinton supporters on this board. JumpinJehosaphat May 2016 #185
I find that the only positive response to non-substantial insults, like Buzz Click's, is to repeat w4rma May 2016 #200
"Hillary 2016, Better than Trump ask Dick Cheney" bahrbearian May 2016 #12
+1000 stonecutter357 May 2016 #49
Bernie fans have basically fallen for their own lies Onlooker May 2016 #7
+ 1 JoePhilly May 2016 #8
K&R Henhouse May 2016 #10
You, obviously, need a refresher course. Darb May 2016 #11
Thanks for this. Perfect response. Bleacher Creature May 2016 #14
+1 Buzz Clik May 2016 #40
'as anyone'... HumanityExperiment May 2016 #43
Kind of like Obama's changing position on gay marriage. And that guy could never get elected... fleabiscuit May 2016 #70
Change of position... HumanityExperiment May 2016 #72
You don't own progressive either. eom fleabiscuit May 2016 #76
Beautiful response! BlueMTexpat May 2016 #75
Excellent analysis. Thanks for posting. Surya Gayatri May 2016 #80
What an excellent post. I don't bother but ya... That. Nt seabeyond May 2016 #111
+1 Arkansas Granny May 2016 #165
+1 BuddhaGirl May 2016 #166
Great points. But you forgot the most egregious one of not being able -- even almost a year into the Number23 May 2016 #172
No.. no, he said it on Maddow the other night... he called it "collective energy" will change the... uponit7771 May 2016 #196
Wow. Surreal. You have just decribed (lol albeit with the most generous interpretation of JumpinJehosaphat May 2016 #186
Wow, Bernie voted the same way as a moderate Rep. 93% of time. LOL. Onlooker May 2016 #187
That reflects the obvious facts that really progressive legislation never makes it out of committee eridani May 2016 #190
that 93% figure is misleading.Where they differed with respect to the votes that have been cast JumpinJehosaphat May 2016 #206
+1, there it is then uponit7771 May 2016 #195
We know that you're not planning to vote for her. Nye Bevan May 2016 #13
I rescinded that over a year ago. cali May 2016 #18
Good to know you're warming up to Hillary! Nye Bevan May 2016 #19
I'm not. I think she's sane. Trump isn't. That's it. cali May 2016 #47
Hey, whenever a Bernie supporter rescinds a pledge to never vote for Hillary, Nye Bevan May 2016 #122
Is Hillary not progressive? casperthegm May 2016 #15
You don't own progressive. eom fleabiscuit May 2016 #71
proof? casperthegm May 2016 #83
'SOUTHERN' red state voters shouldn't count. eom fleabiscuit May 2016 #89
That would definitely help Bernie. Go Vols May 2016 #116
The states that help him the most are the ones that don't look like America. eom fleabiscuit May 2016 #136
So what states DO "look like America"? Art_from_Ark May 2016 #189
Interesting #'s you have there.... alittlelark May 2016 #134
What is the words and actions test? Want to know my blood type? fleabiscuit May 2016 #145
Your reply made no sense. alittlelark May 2016 #146
I don't doubt that one bit. eom fleabiscuit May 2016 #149
Wow. You're pretty damned arrogant. Maedhros May 2016 #202
The privileged think they can define who's progressive, they can't so they rant on forums like this uponit7771 May 2016 #197
You'd think we could come up with a consensus on what is NOT progressive casperthegm May 2016 #198
93% liberal voting record in the Senate Demsrule86 May 2016 #16
Bernie fans have convinced themselves they are the gatekeepers of progressivism. JaneyVee May 2016 #17
Don't confuse them with the facts.... CherokeeDem May 2016 #28
It's kind of amusing. I have to convince myself she's not a Republican. Vinca May 2016 #20
You are spending too much time in the BS echo chamber. Hillary was one of the most liberal Senators redstateblues May 2016 #183
I'm not lumping her in with Ted Cruz. All Republicans are not the same. Vinca May 2016 #191
It is called dellusion. It is a sad affair for the Party and for the country. kgnu_fan May 2016 #22
Sherrod Brown and Barbara Boxer backed her up. John Lewis says she was there in the civil rights Cheese Sandwich May 2016 #23
That is not an argument cali May 2016 #25
barbara boxer shanti May 2016 #113
I suppose Barbara Boxer has her reasons for supporting Hillary, Blue_In_AK May 2016 #125
They twist my entire world view into a pretzel. nt silvershadow May 2016 #24
She's received a title bump to "Dearest Leader". Barack_America May 2016 #26
Voting my conscience means writing somebody in for president. Cannot vote rury May 2016 #27
Perhaps writing in yourself makes sense then. eom fleabiscuit May 2016 #92
She was the 11th most liberal senator when she was there. YouDig May 2016 #29
Being the 11th most liberal senator doesn't make you a liberal. Beowulf May 2016 #84
P-HACKING. EOM fleabiscuit May 2016 #95
There is only 1 Senator who is in the Democratic Progressive Caucus, bvar22 May 2016 #124
Hillary Clinton Is A Progressive Democrat, Despite What You May Have Heard LiberalFighter May 2016 #31
She is progressive to the point where money flows nolabels May 2016 #69
+1,000 n/t LarryNM May 2016 #151
Part of the genius of the Clinton's is that they have pushed the party so far to the right Beowulf May 2016 #87
You sound like you don't think there can't be nuts on both sides of the branch. n/t fleabiscuit May 2016 #96
Who says we're the same tree? Beowulf May 2016 #126
They are all clones. n/t fleabiscuit May 2016 #138
Your premise is only true if you think Bernie is the only definition of 'progressive'. CrowCityDem May 2016 #32
Sanders supporters have convinced themselves that continuing to attack the Democratic nominee Trust Buster May 2016 #33
Do you know what she said to the Wall Street Banksters who had stolen our money and brought B Calm May 2016 #42
Do you know anything about Sanders' tax returns ? He's just like Trump. Trust Buster May 2016 #44
Sanders's family doesn't make enough money to have done anything untoward. w4rma May 2016 #91
So says you. I think, like Trump, there's got to be a reason Sanders has bucked tradition here. Trust Buster May 2016 #119
Her supporters do more mental gymnastics than fire and brimstone Talibangelists. nt VulgarPoet May 2016 #35
Wow, that was really clever. n/t fleabiscuit May 2016 #93
When they reach retirement age, they probably won't remember what happened to Social Security. Octafish May 2016 #36
Thanks for that Go Vols May 2016 #120
No they haven't. They know she's not a true progressive and that's exactly NorthCarolina May 2016 #38
Progressives know there isn't a definitive definition or representative of progressive. eom fleabiscuit May 2016 #98
Fools think 'progressive' means nothing more than 'not Republican.' Maedhros May 2016 #178
I don't think her supporters are that stupid. They know she's not a progressive. EndElectoral May 2016 #45
Current Prez:Obama says he'd be seen as moderate Republican in 1980s Go Vols May 2016 #123
I disagree. [n/t] Maedhros May 2016 #179
she is a progressive. stonecutter357 May 2016 #50
And I'm a dinosaur! RAAAAAR!!! It's fun to pretend! Yurovsky May 2016 #66
Here's a tip Cali. Don't vote for her. leftofcool May 2016 #52
When I read some of the claims, rationalizations, etc., all I can think of is merrily May 2016 #53
Most Democrats in Congress had the good sense and decency to vote against the Iraq War tabasco May 2016 #54
she WILL support the TPP hopemountain May 2016 #55
She'll pick a rabid pro TPP booster cali May 2016 #78
yes. i shudder to think hopemountain May 2016 #79
They're intentionally trying to redefine progressive pengu May 2016 #56
And when she hobnobs with republicon elites begging for their money??? Kip Humphrey May 2016 #57
A female wartime president = "progressive", apparently. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #59
Ah, the purity test. Loki May 2016 #60
No purity test. Just reality. She's a centrist. cali May 2016 #63
You'r describing the majority of Americans. eom fleabiscuit May 2016 #106
She promotes and votes for laws that damage Americans. senz May 2016 #117
Such as laws that... fleabiscuit May 2016 #118
Clinton approved $120M of Sandy Hook gun maker sales senz May 2016 #127
The SOS does not approve gun sales in the US, or grant them immunity in the US. eom fleabiscuit May 2016 #137
NRA Lobbyist Co-Hosted Hillary Clinton Fundraiser senz May 2016 #130
Where is the lobbyist's recored senate vote? eom fleabiscuit May 2016 #141
Forbes lobbied to kill universal background checks in 2013 senz May 2016 #142
Where is the lobbyist's recored vote? eom fleabiscuit May 2016 #143
Apparently you don't know how lobbying works. senz May 2016 #144
They can gain access to senators to pitch for immunity for gun makers. eom fleabiscuit May 2016 #150
My take: Hillary voters worship Hillary and Bill; Bernie voters want his platform. CobaltBlue May 2016 #62
IMHO, Don't play Texas Holdem. fleabiscuit May 2016 #204
Until this primary I thought only limbeciles were this delusional. Doctor_J May 2016 #65
Fascinating that 'progressives' can be so down on America and Americans. fleabiscuit May 2016 #152
Bullshit conservative drivel. [n/t] Maedhros May 2016 #180
Those that keep trying to redefine progressive to the right Broward May 2016 #68
I guess almost 13 million Americans (about 3 million more than Sanders' vote count) have... George II May 2016 #74
Actually you just have to have basic critical thinking skills. ismnotwasm May 2016 #77
You sure about that not being hard? lol eom fleabiscuit May 2016 #154
Hillary is so "progressive" democrank May 2016 #81
Wow, IMHO that is totally vacuous. eom fleabiscuit May 2016 #156
Five Reasons Hillary is Not A Progressive Boldine May 2016 #82
+1000 Her voting history, SOS actions, & financial backing are RIGHTWING CONSERVATIVE senz May 2016 #112
It's actually more like 50 Doctor_J May 2016 #168
The only thing progressive about Hillary might be an insurance policy. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #85
Cognitive dissonance explains everything AgingAmerican May 2016 #86
They are masters of DoubleThink. [n/t] Maedhros May 2016 #88
that's what she's done to the party: Clinton's power is that she can tell you, to your face, what MisterP May 2016 #101
K & R AzDar May 2016 #108
Hillary is exactly as progressive as the corporations/ 1% allow her to be Teamster Jeff May 2016 #109
Is widespread self-deception symptomatic of a dying empire? bjo59 May 2016 #110
It's all in the chart pdsimdars May 2016 #114
Perhaps we should think of progressive as a direction, rather than as a resume item. Orsino May 2016 #121
GOP infiltrates normally liberal gatherings to plant doubt about likely Democratic candidate. Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #128
I think one could safely say that she's mostly progressive (now) Blue_In_AK May 2016 #129
Sanders "fans" have convinced themselves she is a Republican. seabeyond May 2016 #131
I've 'convinced myself' of nothing besides Blue_Tires May 2016 #132
Seems like we need to abandon that label. Dark n Stormy Knight May 2016 #135
yep truth oldandhappy May 2016 #140
She's gonna court "megachurch moms" now, that is her brock beltway geniuses' strategy. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #155
Why wouldn't she court right/left women. Sounds smart to me. You do want smart in your Pres, right? seabeyond May 2016 #158
Smart would be courting Millennials, not anti-choice right wing Xtian conservatives. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #159
Clinton is courting Millennials and right women damn well know who will be put in Supreme Court. seabeyond May 2016 #161
We do want smart. And I think she's smart. But her advisors live in a beltway time warp bubble Warren DeMontague May 2016 #162
Having a '95 and a '97, I say, that it is on us. I certainly know this generation. seabeyond May 2016 #169
She's on the record as being OK with a constitutional amendment to curb reproductive rights Doctor_J May 2016 #167
"Republican without believing that queering causes hurricanes" MisterP May 2016 #160
Can you name one bill that Obama signed in his first two years, when Democrats controlled congress, StevieM May 2016 #163
Look at Citizens United saynotoplutocrats May 2016 #170
Very recommended. H2O Man May 2016 #173
Or not be a bitter Demsrule86 May 2016 #174
They are starry eyed. No logic IMO. nt Logical May 2016 #175
I got an interesting response HassleCat May 2016 #176
Well that's certainly part of it. The other part is that many Hillary supporters KPN May 2016 #181
We're called Democrats and she's the nominee. onehandle May 2016 #184
The Democrats took a pass and enabled this situation. libdem4life May 2016 #188
I agree. She is no progressive. Vattel May 2016 #193
I think her supporters think Hillary is progressive enough All in it together May 2016 #194
its pretty damn clear that Hillary supporters dont care about truth and honesty AZ Progressive May 2016 #199
That is correct. We are corrupt lying m*therf*ckers who should be worshipping you. Buzz Clik May 2016 #203
You have no problem supporting one of the most corrupt Democratic candidates ever AZ Progressive May 2016 #209
nah, just not convinced that the used car salesmen on both sides are being honest uponit7771 May 2016 #207
Nice work! Buzz Clik May 2016 #201
kr Norrin Radd May 2016 #205
Oh like voting in favor of the NRA and against the Brady Campaign? For lighter synergie May 2016 #208
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