2016 Postmortem

Zorra

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47. That is the 100% correct answer. We think for ourselves. Bernie's status as our

Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:53 PM

Apr 2016

candidate rests solely on his merits as an aware, and capable, human being.

We are not cult of personality sycophants in any way, shape, or form.

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Sanders: If Clinton Wins, She'll Have To Win Over My Supporters Herself [View all] CentralCoaster Apr 2016 OP

That's the team spirit asuhornets Apr 2016 #1

No, it's about the principles. highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #2

Yes, BS's lack of them SFnomad Apr 2016 #34

HRC doesn't even know what they are n/t Peregrine Took Apr 2016 #52

Clinton released a tirade yesterday basically saying she would not make ANY changes for his support Baobab Apr 2016 #64

Yes, she's making her own bed, and I'm not sleeping in it! Zen Democrat Apr 2016 #81

Pray! Baobab Apr 2016 #121

Oh, she just jumped right on top of poor Rachel over that one... Hillary Meltdown. CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #82

A few months ago I had decided I'd hold my nose and vote for HRC in Nov. if it came down to it. Arugula Latte Apr 2016 #87

She is not getting worse. This is who she has always been. pangaia Apr 2016 #140

Yarp. frylock Apr 2016 #149

I feel exactly the same. I am in a purple state and it's a tough call. I did decide one thing last JudyM Apr 2016 #192

I agree strongly with her rock Apr 2016 #119

its not a zero sum game Baobab Apr 2016 #122

So you cant think of any "promises" she made to her base rock Apr 2016 #123

the entire "progressive liberalisation" agenda (trade agenda) and basically the WTO consists of a Baobab Apr 2016 #134

Presumably her followers expect that she's not creating diversions to fake them out, right? Baobab Apr 2016 #144

Right on this post rock Apr 2016 #151

Do you know what "overcompensating" is in psychology? Baobab Apr 2016 #163

I'm going to interpret that rock Apr 2016 #166

no, I didn't mean that. I'm very sorry if it seemed as if I did. Baobab Apr 2016 #168

Not at all rock Apr 2016 #179

He didn't say "fuck em", those are your words. Probably the words of Hillary towards all highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #54

Sanders expects his supporters bvf Apr 2016 #99

principles of what? Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #182

Bullies run in packs. Leaders lead by example. CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #4

No he's speaking the truth NWCorona Apr 2016 #5

She was most likely rewarded with Sec of State Armstead Apr 2016 #21

No doubt. Obama had to make a deal with the Clinton's to gain her support NWCorona Apr 2016 #28

you realize you are accusing our first black President of a crime dsc Apr 2016 #33

How again did his skin color creep into this conversation? Very weird. Ed Suspicious Apr 2016 #49

that is how it works a lot of the time Baobab Apr 2016 #66

Are you saying that isn't how the game is played? NWCorona Apr 2016 #50

Grow up. 840high Apr 2016 #55

Obama considers the appointment of Clinton to Secretary of State as his greatest and gravest misstep CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #39

I personally know six Hillary supporters in 2008 who voted for McCain/Palin. Zen Democrat Apr 2016 #86

I remember what was said in the Hillary for president forum in 2008 as well NWCorona Apr 2016 #88

I only voted for Berie, I didn't swear a fealty oath. Downwinder Apr 2016 #15

It is not about him at all, that is the fucking point. morningfog Apr 2016 #18

^^^ THIS ^^^ nt beedle Apr 2016 #38

authoritative lemmings will never grasp this point Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #130

Yep. nt SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #155

Never been about him, the undeniable proof of that is who else can Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #29

The Clinton Dynasty isn't entitled to my support. JPnoodleman Apr 2016 #94

How did you get that wrong? AirmensMom Apr 2016 #137

Agree. He's an asshat. nt BreakfastClub Apr 2016 #153

Wait, wait. PyaarRevolution Apr 2016 #169

No Wonder You Support Hillary noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #177

Its been all about Queen Hillary... Rockyj Apr 2016 #190

Very true. I chose who to vote for based on my values and needs Autumn Apr 2016 #3

Like respect, votes should be earned loyalsister Apr 2016 #22

It's stupid to vote for the lesser of two evils, it's stupid to vote Autumn Apr 2016 #60

That is perfectly said, my dear Autumn! So right on. CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2016 #65

I know that I and I'm sure others have voted that way for years and I believe that Autumn Apr 2016 #89

People who mistake politics for board games cannot fathom Fairgo Apr 2016 #105

What a jerk. That is all. MoonRiver Apr 2016 #6

Agreed. Seems he was never really a Dem, just borrowed the term for name recognition brush Apr 2016 #31

I have lost all respect for him. MoonRiver Apr 2016 #43

Who is a Real Democrat? egalitegirl Apr 2016 #70

Do you folks even know what a "real Democrat" is? It surely must be some newfangled kind of Democrat highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #98

ROFL angrychair Apr 2016 #100

Well, you might remember he got over 86% of the vote here and he is not up until 2018. karynnj Apr 2016 #128

My guess is that he doesn't have such a high rating now. MoonRiver Apr 2016 #147

I live in Burlington. karynnj Apr 2016 #173

Yeah, good luck with that. frylock Apr 2016 #150

He's an FDR Democrat. Hillary is a Neo-Liberal Democrat. Zen Democrat Apr 2016 #90

Nope Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #183

That JERK! Recognizing that his supporters think and act for themselves! morningfog Apr 2016 #36

His only condition for his supporters is to demean and be against Hillary at all costs. nt Jitter65 Apr 2016 #48

According to whatever you pulled out of your ass. morningfog Apr 2016 #77

lol - right? 840high Apr 2016 #58

If Hillary told you to jump off a cliff beedle Apr 2016 #45

Nope, it's Sanders refusing to tell you "Don't jump off the cliff" thats the analogy. nt stevenleser Apr 2016 #112

that makes no sense to me. hollysmom Apr 2016 #158

Wow, Steve TM99 Apr 2016 #164

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2016 #125

Bernie does not set conditions for my support demwing Apr 2016 #7

"the math just isn't there" +1 VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #14

+1 n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #19

I agree with Bernie pengu Apr 2016 #8

#HeIsWithUs Kalidurga Apr 2016 #9

I am pleased he said this. yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #62

Oops! I took a 💩 all over your nice carpet robbedvoter Apr 2016 #10

Wow, OK. CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #72

Now THAT'S the kind of insightful commentary I've come to expect... Maedhros Apr 2016 #79

omg... really? dana_b Apr 2016 #114

Nice. Sparkly Apr 2016 #11

What is a democrat? Unconditional allegiance to a brand? dinkytron Apr 2016 #13

It's a political party. Sparkly Apr 2016 #26

Right, so does your dictionary also include the word 'integrity'? beedle Apr 2016 #51

Wow. Sparkly Apr 2016 #170

Bernie is a Democrat. Some others are closet Republicans and Frauds. Capital "F". Fuddnik Apr 2016 #57

What did it take for you to become a Democrat with a big D? frylock Apr 2016 #154

A candidate who stands for war and fracking and the TPP and increased H-1B visas and djean111 Apr 2016 #127

Funny, I don't think Hillary is a Democrat. How can a Democrat be a warmonger in 2016? They can't! Zen Democrat Apr 2016 #93

neither am I dana_b Apr 2016 #116

Well said Bernie jpmonk91 Apr 2016 #12

Very well said. NewImproved Deal Apr 2016 #20

I have no plans supporting HRC jpmonk91 Apr 2016 #53

When she hears that I'm sure she's going to be crushed. nt COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #101

Oh she'll be crushed alright. frylock Apr 2016 #156

Yep. Saw that last night. COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #189

LOL. You might be the tread winner! nt Land of Enchantment Apr 2016 #78

Fully agree. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #16

Bingo Armstead Apr 2016 #27

You Got It noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #180

That's right. The man won't sell us out. Baitball Blogger Apr 2016 #187

Lol! love it!! you go Bernie!!!! wendylaroux Apr 2016 #17

Poor Hillary, it's not going to be like 2008 WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #23

Translation: NurseJackie Apr 2016 #24

Bernie has at least one of his supporters pegged BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #25

Getting really tired of his sanctimonious crap. Bleacher Creature Apr 2016 #30

The words of a politician who can't be bought with a cabinet position or anything else. aikoaiko Apr 2016 #32

And she will not have trouble doing that KingFlorez Apr 2016 #35

Right? I mean think of the sacred Clinton Dynasty?! JPnoodleman Apr 2016 #135

K&R!!!!! felix_numinous Apr 2016 #37

Poor sport and sore loser. He's tripping over his ego. Lil Missy Apr 2016 #40

He's just saying he can't hand us over to her on a silver platter. Because he can't. reformist2 Apr 2016 #110

His entire campaign was "we", not "I". ieoeja Apr 2016 #41

Great photo BeyondGeography Apr 2016 #42

Ha ha ha november3rd Apr 2016 #44

Fake quotation. Orsino Apr 2016 #46

"And if Secretary Clinton wins, it is incumbent upon her to tell millions of people...." CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #59

That's the real quotation... Orsino Apr 2016 #63

Yup, and thank you for the heads-up. CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #85

It's a misleading headline from 'Talking Points Memo.' Eric J in MN Apr 2016 #83

That is the 100% correct answer. We think for ourselves. Bernie's status as our Zorra Apr 2016 #47

That is an amazing sentence... apcalc Apr 2016 #56

Any candidate has to win voters. It's not like they "owned" their supporters The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #61

And even if she did pivot towards Bernie's positions... CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2016 #69

Likewise. Fuddnik Apr 2016 #71

Yep. At this point I don't believe a single word she says EmperorHasNoClothes Apr 2016 #139

Nope. nt SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #157

Yep. And Hill's idea of winning us over is insults. CharlotteVale Apr 2016 #67

Why would any Democrat have a problem with...... Sivart Apr 2016 #68

I agree with his response d_legendary1 Apr 2016 #73

Another 40 million and she might be on to something EmperorHasNoClothes Apr 2016 #141

Yup d_legendary1 Apr 2016 #193

Since sanders has only been for sanders this is no beachbum bob Apr 2016 #74

It's her job to EARN votes - Bernie is correct yet again! Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #75

I keep expecting Sanders to shout, "Hey you kids! Get off my lawn!" procon Apr 2016 #76

What you fail to understand is she is the antithesis of what half the party wants. Land of Enchantment Apr 2016 #97

What I'm not prepared to do is stick my nose in the air and hand the election to Trump procon Apr 2016 #103

get a better candidate ibegurpard Apr 2016 #132

The average voter doesn't even list that as a concern, let alone a deal breaker. procon Apr 2016 #145

so we finally come back to it Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #136

I don't take remarks of this nature seriously. I'm a grown up. I have been a Democrat for over 45 Land of Enchantment Apr 2016 #176

When you can't make up a successful rejoinder, procon Apr 2016 #184

This progressive thanks you for the reply. CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #191

+1 Beowulf Apr 2016 #113

K&R for critical thinking Blue Owl Apr 2016 #80

I've never had anything bad to say about Bernie. cwydro Apr 2016 #84

It's a misleading headline. What he actually said wasn't egotistical at all. Eric J in MN Apr 2016 #91

The article headline is a bit of an exaggeration, please read the excerpt in the OP: CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #96

I'm listening. The Midway Rebel Apr 2016 #92

Sorry, I don't vote for serial liars. onecaliberal Apr 2016 #95

The real Bernie has stepped out tonyt53 Apr 2016 #102

He also knows Clinton has to sell herself and her agenda to those that supported him TheKentuckian Apr 2016 #108

So you think if Bernie snapped his fingers I'd be sure to vote for Hillary? SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #160

He's exactly right. Blue_In_AK Apr 2016 #104

It's basically how a runner up negotiates getting their planks in the platform at the convention. CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #107

Like Hillary gives a flying fuck about the planks in the Democratic platform. djean111 Apr 2016 #131

I was reading some State Department materials about "State Crafting"... CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #143

He's right - those who want him to win don't believe in establishment politics... polichick Apr 2016 #106

I am an independent thinker, no one can give me to anyone else. hollysmom Apr 2016 #109

Correct answer! pa28 Apr 2016 #111

Proving once again he's only been posing as a Dem -- and why we should have all closed primaries. pnwmom Apr 2016 #115

Go Bernie! Unicorn Apr 2016 #117

Why should he help her or ANY of the establishment Dems dana_b Apr 2016 #118

I'll vote, but not for her. The office of president on my ballot will be blank. B Calm Apr 2016 #120

Well of course she will. Why would anyone blindly vote because someone else told them to. My vote is Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #124

She will ibegurpard Apr 2016 #126

Wrong Answer, Hillary. Wrong Comparison. But you don't want our vote anyway, so there's that. 2banon Apr 2016 #129

Well sorry, but yes, that IS her job. Not his. closeupready Apr 2016 #133

His supporters have been saying the same thing. It's about issues and positions, not about doing merrily Apr 2016 #138

I approve this message. silvershadow Apr 2016 #142

K&R quantumjunkie Apr 2016 #146

Of course. It should be taken for granted politicians have to earn people's votes Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #148

Hi! I agree! DianaForRussFeingold Apr 2016 #159

.. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 #171

I love it! grntuscarora Apr 2016 #152

Pragmatically speaking, what other response is there? RedCappedBandit Apr 2016 #161

Whether she wins (2016) or loses (2008) it's always Hillary's job. Metric System Apr 2016 #162

100% Pure Vanity NurseJackie Apr 2016 #165

I don't get this. PyaarRevolution Apr 2016 #172

doubt she'll try, and she wouldn't succeed amborin Apr 2016 #167

Sorry, but petulant wannabes don't really add much. randome Apr 2016 #174

It's going to come as a bit of a shock someday Tarc Apr 2016 #175

They can stay home on election night and watch trump win the Presidency.. dubyadiprecession Apr 2016 #178

Then it's up to Clinton to give them a reason to vote. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #181

Watch us. Pastiche423 Apr 2016 #186

Sometimes I think Hillary really doesn't want the votes of liberals.. mountain grammy Apr 2016 #185

Smart enough to not even try to herd cats n/t eridani Apr 2016 #188

Said because ..... it is true? quaker bill Apr 2016 #194