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2016 Postmortem

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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,192 posts)
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:09 PM Apr 2016

Isn’t it obvious by now? Black votes matter [View all]

I often don't agree with Kathleen Parker but she's spot on here.

CHARLESTON, S.C. — African-Americans in the South can't get a break when it comes to voting, as history can't deny.

After all they've endured through slavery, Jim Crow and the fight for civil rights, their voices are still treated dismissively by tone-deaf politicians who would ask for their votes.

If you're thinking Bernie Sanders, you're partly right.

Earlier this month, having lost massively to Hillary Clinton across the Southeast, Sanders commented that the bevy of early Southern primaries “distorts reality.” In other comments soon thereafter, perhaps covering for what was obviously a lapse in political acumen, he clarified that those early states are the most conservative in the country.

Not really. And not really.

While some segments of the South are undeniably conservative, Dixie is also home to a large and reliably Democratic cohort — African-Americans. Many of the most liberal people serving in today's Congress were elected by Southerners, and especially black Southerners. The reality is that Sanders failed to earn their votes in part by treating the South as a lost cause.

Many took Sanders' remarks as insinuating that the black vote isn't all that important. Adding to the insult, actor Tim Robbins, a Sanders surrogate, said that Clinton's win in South Carolina, where more than half of Democratic voters are African-American, was “about as significant” as winning Guam.

Not cool, Mr. Robbins, but you were great in “The Shawshank Redemption.”

The gentleman from Vermont (black population: 1 percent) and the gentleman from Hollywood failed to charm Southern Democratic leaders, who recently responded with a letter condemning Sanders' remarks. The signatories, including the Democratic Party chairs of South Carolina (an African-American), Louisiana, Florida, Georgia and Mississippi, expressed concern that Sanders' characterization of the South minimized “the importance of the voices of a core constituency for our party.”

http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20160425/OPINION04/160429628/Isn't-it-obvious-by-now-Black-votes-matter--

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Isn’t it obvious by now? Black votes matter [View all] Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2016 OP
Bring on the next slate of primaries so they can matter even more. oasis Apr 2016 #1
Unless Sanders can broaden the appeal of his message, there is no movement ... salinsky Apr 2016 #2
Nothing in your post is remotely true AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #4
Yeah, it was so "not true" your reply was positively overflowing with the reasons. IamMab Apr 2016 #11
White angst -- No, its human concern and aspiration Armstead Apr 2016 #10
But, Sanders' message doesn't resonate in minority communities ... salinsky Apr 2016 #13
Keep it up if you want -- But I'm done with such opportunistic divisive memes Armstead Apr 2016 #16
I don't think Bernie's economic message *doesn't* resonate forjusticethunders Apr 2016 #18
A grain of truth but in this context it's horse puckey Armstead Apr 2016 #41
Racism against white people in USA? sigh Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #26
He didn't "blame poor people for not voting" -- he blamed GOP politices that makes it difficult senz Apr 2016 #15
Exactly tonyt53 Apr 2016 #19
Poor people voted, just not for him. Voters don't count when they don't vote for Mr. Sanders. Maru Kitteh Apr 2016 #24
Yep! And what makes him thing that the poor, many POCs among them, would vote for him . . . brush Apr 2016 #53
America's oldest black newspaper endorsed Bernie & Sestak tblue Apr 2016 #3
Wow, thank you. senz Apr 2016 #17
And BLM protested Hillary on Friday. Unicorn Apr 2016 #20
Berniebros call the "low information voters". It's disgusting and racist. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #5
Actually it came from Hillary supporters AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #7
When she loses the general election they will know exactly how important their vote was AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #6
And THERE it is, I have been predicting for a while now these type of Bernie supporters Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #27
If she loses, yes AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #29
I just wish more of your buddies would admit they are going to blame anything that Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #31
If she loses whose fault is it? AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #32
Right here, Bernie supporter says BLACK PEOPLE ARE TO BLAME if the GOP takes WH. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #33
If she loses it is the fault of those who insisted on forcing her upon the Democratic electorate AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #34
Bernie supporter OPENLY stating BLAME BLACKS IF DEMOCRATS LOSE!!! Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #35
And when that time comes AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #36
Bernie supporter SAYS YES BLAME BLACK PEOPLE Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #37
Actually you are the one who keeps saying it AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #38
Get real please, who in the repug party is going to beat her? brush Apr 2016 #58
Why do people continue to proliferate Svafa Apr 2016 #8
Ugh! Another 'all Democrats in the South are black' posts. Dawgs Apr 2016 #9
That's not what it said Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2016 #60
Hillary can't even touch Bernie's record on civil rights for People of Color. senz Apr 2016 #12
But they, black people, just dont know this, right and if they did.... Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #28
Don't try to put words and attitudes in my mouth. senz Apr 2016 #42
I put nothing anywhere. You are the one "lecturing" about this, not me. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #43
Bullshit. I'm talking about the MSM blackout on Bernie Sanders. senz Apr 2016 #46
Lie? So if a black person tells you it is the age old lecturing, and they have Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #48
If anyone of any color thinks criticism of the MSM is "lecturing," senz Apr 2016 #54
You must be good a dodge ball. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author snowy owl Apr 2016 #62
Did anyone ever say they didn't? nt Live and Learn Apr 2016 #14
Their actions (and non-actions) and excuse-making (and blaming and dismissiveness) ... NurseJackie Apr 2016 #22
She used the exact words in 2008 Armstead Apr 2016 #45
"Clinton cited an Associated Press article" NurseJackie Apr 2016 #59
I don't really care much WHY anyone votes for Hillary. Maedhros Apr 2016 #21
Will you carry any responsiibility for the harm done by a GOP White House if that Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #30
We're afraid of the harm another Clinton White House would do. senz Apr 2016 #49
Ahh, I see. So if she is the nominee, by not participating (wait, are you gonna vote GOP?) Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #51
No, we're going to try to head off the coronation before the nomination. senz Apr 2016 #56
yes, black votes matter oldandhappy Apr 2016 #23
Sanders is seeing the consequences of not doing better with the African American vote. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #25
Sanders is seeing the result of an MSM blackout. senz Apr 2016 #52
Hills and bills spent a long time pandering to AA,decades,their foundation wendylaroux Apr 2016 #61
1000s of people cheering his name could not deter Bernie from meeting with friends/family of Dontay. jillan Apr 2016 #39
The whole thing boggles my mind, frankly. There is a candidate right in front of you silvershadow Apr 2016 #40
And it's time that people remembered that KingFlorez Apr 2016 #44
Okay Armstead Apr 2016 #47
And in the present day, your candidate Sanders is doomed because he got crushed by black voters KingFlorez Apr 2016 #50
Bernie not good at kissing ass,then turning around and kicking the same ass. wendylaroux Apr 2016 #57
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