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2016 Postmortem

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JDPriestly

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41. A corporation does not need to be called a person in order to be sued.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 04:55 PM
Apr 2016

Corporations are the creation of laws. You just write a law that says that a corporation is subject to a lawsuit. No need to consider it a person. It is not a person. A person is a human.

Corporations have not human rights. None at all other than what are granted them by law.

Other business forms including partnerships and limited liability companies can also be sued. A partnership is considered a person for some persons. I find that use of the term person to be detrimentally confusing.. We should stop using it in that way.

A corporation is the creation of our laws. We can limit them any way we agree to do. They do not have intrinsic rights by virtue of their birth. Their "birth" is a matter of filing papers. Done it. Been there.

I've also given births to children. The difference is palpable. Filing papers to create a corporation is not nearly the experience that creating and raising children is. And the filing of those papers to start a corporation is not nearly the labor and pain that giving birth to a person is.

It's a matter of semantics and not using the word "person" to refer to a business entity. Corporations do not have personality. They do not suffer as people do.

Traditionally and in the general usage, the word "people," by the way, is and was the plural of person. When I was growing up we did not use the word "persons" to refer to people, not in ordinary speech. And no one would every refer to a group of corporations as people.

This is just a matter of language. But using person to refer to corporations has caused a lot of legal mistakes in our country so I think we should change our laws and not use the term to refer to corporations.

DU Poll: Third Way or FDR? [View all] silvershadow Apr 2016 OP
why are the Clinton supporters not voting? hollysmom Apr 2016 #1
The Correct the Record trolls don't work the night shift? Unicorn Apr 2016 #13
Yet, you just joined on Wednesday. grossproffit Apr 2016 #18
Thanks for warning me. Unicorn Apr 2016 #19
There feelings get hurt easily. They are cocooning now in insular little spaces where they can silvershadow Apr 2016 #27
Because they want Trump to win. cui bono Apr 2016 #37
Because the poll wasn't rigged in advance. (nt) Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #39
Provide evidence of Third Way's position, please brooklynite Apr 2016 #2
Public domain. Use it to learn. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #3
Don't be fooled by this one. TM99 Apr 2016 #11
I know it. Sometimes I explain myself over and over as if I don't know so the information silvershadow Apr 2016 #14
While Clinton says she supports social justice within limits she is a strong advocate of rhett o rick Apr 2016 #4
Righteous. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #7
Brooklynite *IS* the wealthy. JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author insta8er Apr 2016 #8
Hillary Clinton is a neo-liberal. Third Way is a form of neo-liberalism. PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #16
Read this: Baobab Apr 2016 #33
Good god. seekthetruth Apr 2016 #5
Some products and services are too big for the market to efficiently handle. seekthetruth Apr 2016 #6
Plus she supports the TPP, in which the Corporate State further strengthens. Good post.nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #10
Climate change is a huge opportunity to sell people water, drugs for new diseases Baobab Apr 2016 #34
They already banned a lot of bans and they have to hide that. Baobab Apr 2016 #35
See also: false dilemma Tarc Apr 2016 #9
So tell us oh wise one, TM99 Apr 2016 #12
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #15
So are you stalking me now? TM99 Apr 2016 #20
I believe, both times, you are the one that is responding to me Tarc Apr 2016 #21
But I am not bringing up shit TM99 Apr 2016 #22
Not a concern Tarc Apr 2016 #23
I certainly won't speak for Tarc, but I'll tell you my third option. Jim Lane Apr 2016 #42
This scenario won't ever occur. TM99 Apr 2016 #43
Sorry, I don't understand your response. Jim Lane Apr 2016 #44
Corporations have been legally "persons" since the 1600s Recursion Apr 2016 #24
Having run into to you from time to time, all I have to say is: Well, then, they damn sure silvershadow Apr 2016 #25
Not so,corpprate personhood is fairly recent. maybe the 19th century. Baobab Apr 2016 #31
Corporations are created by the filing of documents. They do not feel pain, cry, or laugh. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #32
I said "person", not "human" Recursion Apr 2016 #38
A corporation does not need to be called a person in order to be sued. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #41
Thank you for this poll. chervilant Apr 2016 #26
Here is the problem, the system is already fixed and has been since the 1990s Baobab Apr 2016 #28
At least part of this is THE problem alright. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #30
Great post. Thanks. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #36
K&R. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #29
Bump for day shift. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #40
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