2016 Postmortem

Ghost Dog

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112. Democratic socialism works well

Sat Apr 16, 2016, 01:07 PM

Apr 2016

in a well-regulated open market economy because it fosters the long-term interests of the majority of the people (including social, cultural & environmental interests), enabling them to supply to and make purchases in that market.

Corporate socialism disables people and exponentially consumes everything.

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Clinton and Sanders supporters can't stand each other [View all] bemildred Apr 2016 OP

A friend of mine (DNC member/Super Delegate) had the same observation... brooklynite Apr 2016 #1

This is what you support: Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #25

This is what you support #2: PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #32

Sorry, Hillary has never been brought : you are repeating Sanders4 propaganda lewebley3 Apr 2016 #77

Her bankruptcy bill vote was certainly bought. nt revbones Apr 2016 #78

Just more smear from Sanders suppoter: aboslutely no truth: lewebley3 Apr 2016 #86

She was against it. Got donor money, then voted for it. No falsehoods there. nt revbones Apr 2016 #87

Hillary has had stronger attack against the banks: Sandders just lied about lewebley3 Apr 2016 #88

Doesn't change that she sold her vote and is bought does it? revbones Apr 2016 #91

Hillary cannot be bought: Nobody pushes her around! lewebley3 Apr 2016 #98

ROFL sure. revbones Apr 2016 #105

What nonsence: Didn't sell any votesa lewebley3 Apr 2016 #126

No, actual fact. She was against it, took donor money then voted for it. revbones Apr 2016 #149

Hillary's vote was not brought:Sanders is losing to your are smearing with lies lewebley3 Apr 2016 #129

That's twice you made the same "typo". Reading comprehension is your friend. Bought, not brought. nt Electric Monk Apr 2016 #165

Hillary Clinton is the most bought national Democratic politician ever. PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #85

Your attack iempty of any trurh lewebley3 Apr 2016 #89

Your post empty of any spelling. eom PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #90

but not truth lewebley3 Apr 2016 #99

prove it. creon Apr 2016 #116

Watch the video. If you are a decent human being, you can PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #120

You are wasting your time, but not for the reason you think mythology Apr 2016 #123

My moral certainty is that Hillary Clinton is an unfit candidate. PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #125

fail creon Apr 2016 #132

I think you're in for some surprises CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #67

According to FiveThirtyEight, the rancor is no worse than it was in 2008. brooklynite Apr 2016 #75

The nastiness in 2008 also originated from the Hillary Clinton campaign. PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #80

538 is partially right TSIAS Apr 2016 #161

It was never like this in 2008 CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #81

And 538 has been woefully wrong a lot this year. Fawke Em Apr 2016 #135

That anyone still uses 538 TM99 Apr 2016 #158

Another fine post by CoffeeCat PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #76

The only shock is how crazy the Sanders people have become lewebley3 Apr 2016 #92

Pretty much -nt OhZone Apr 2016 #104

Dem's are sticking with Dem's: what you are a left wing tea party lewebley3 Apr 2016 #102

Kudos for speaking up. Love your candor! KPN Apr 2016 #128

If she is the nominee 840high Apr 2016 #152

Just before the vote in Massachusetts this year Samantha Apr 2016 #147

Not true: Hillary's supporters have beeen gracious:winners:: Its lewebley3 Apr 2016 #84

WTF? attacking gender? 840high Apr 2016 #154

Sanders people. used the word whore to attack Hillary lewebley3 Apr 2016 #162

Only in your mind. 840high Apr 2016 #164

"Very few Democrats will refuse to vote for her." Fawke Em Apr 2016 #134

She is a fucking mess of a candidate, but slightly better than any GOP idiot. nt Logical Apr 2016 #148

Exactly RandySF Apr 2016 #153

I could sense that.... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #2

Actually its Clinton herself that I can't stand tularetom Apr 2016 #3

^^^THIS^^^ Her supporters are nothing to me. Autumn Apr 2016 #5

And who are you to them? kwassa Apr 2016 #16

I don't care how it cuts. Autumn Apr 2016 #17

I know. kwassa Apr 2016 #22

I know two in real life. IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #110

Exactly EmperorHasNoClothes Apr 2016 #40

I can't stand her or her supporters BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #55

Like we give a shit what you think of us or Hillary? Tommy2Tone Apr 2016 #60

Give-not-a-shitters. Ghost Dog Apr 2016 #109

That's because you're not a progressive: progressive will. be out working for her lewebley3 Apr 2016 #94

Actually, it's the progressives who don't like her. Fawke Em Apr 2016 #139

They xo like. her: rhat is why she is winning lewebley3 Apr 2016 #144

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We can keep doing this, but if she gets the nomination, she's going down hard. That's on you. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #63

So the rules are we should kiss Bernie's fans asses. Tommy2Tone Apr 2016 #70

No. I don't want or expect that. If Hillary and her fans had run an honest campaign, it would be DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #71

Oh pul-leeze apcalc Apr 2016 #79

Yeah, that really changed everything. Next. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #82

I cannot stand empty suit Sanders lewebley3 Apr 2016 #103

Is there any truth to the rumor that you are actually Yoda? tularetom Apr 2016 #117

Your "writing style" is akin to some meth using yoda. Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #163

The way she was yelling over Bernie during the debate was so off-putting. Arugula Latte Apr 2016 #119

+1 Zira Apr 2016 #150

Yes, the mental gymnastics they must perform to convince themselves that Arugula Latte Apr 2016 #160

Huh. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2016 #4

Divisive strategies divide, if they work. bemildred Apr 2016 #12

I think that's true to a point EmperorHasNoClothes Apr 2016 #45

They are as different as day and night, that's why. I don't care what is said about Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #6

^This^ Art_from_Ark Apr 2016 #7

I've had that driven home to me right here on DU... Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #8

Yes, Corporate Socialism vs Democratic Socialism. Kip Humphrey Apr 2016 #30

This!^^^^^^10000! ding.ding.ding.ding. 2banon Apr 2016 #111

Democratic socialism works well Ghost Dog Apr 2016 #112

well said, thank you! Kip Humphrey Apr 2016 #115

I would agree, if DU is any example. I loathe what is written here and consider it morally inferior. Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #9

Oh go find a pot and beat it then! n/t Tommy2Tone Apr 2016 #65

fuck that. if I find some pot. I'm gonna smoke it Hiraeth Apr 2016 #155

+1 vintx Apr 2016 #137

Ever see the movie "Mean Girls?" notadmblnd Apr 2016 #10

Absolutely Correct - PERFECT Analogy Impedimentus Apr 2016 #13

Perfect analogy. Clintons have their enemies list / burn book for retaliation Jackilope Apr 2016 #31

Hillary is innocent: she proven after every attack to be innocent lewebley3 Apr 2016 #106

We used to simply call them bullies. TM99 Apr 2016 #159

Tensions are always highest... CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #11

Projection beedle Apr 2016 #20

Why would we feel that way about Clinton supporters? Skwmom Apr 2016 #14

Weird ... The Bernie fans that I know personally are ... NurseJackie Apr 2016 #15

Remember apcalc Apr 2016 #36

+1. nt bemildred Apr 2016 #41

+10,000! blue neen Apr 2016 #143

Same Haveadream Apr 2016 #43

I know some as well Tommy2Tone Apr 2016 #62

Yes, but DU has become CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #72

They like you? ibegurpard Apr 2016 #73

Same. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #100

Do you say the nasty shit to them you say on DU? m-lekktor Apr 2016 #107

Luckily, I don't know any Hillary supporters. Fawke Em Apr 2016 #136

Actually in the real world (not DU)... Agschmid Apr 2016 #18

I thought your OP title was describing GDP ... kwassa Apr 2016 #19

I don't like her. Punkingal Apr 2016 #21

I never liked libertarians and green party/naderites that sold us down the river workinclasszero Apr 2016 #23

How could they sell you down the river? dogman Apr 2016 #28

Condescension vs sanctimony nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #24

+1. bemildred Apr 2016 #26

Most disagreement on our side is how to achieve the change geek tragedy Apr 2016 #46

No, I see a good deal of the politics of personal assault on the right too. bemildred Apr 2016 #50

Well said! Haveadream Apr 2016 #61

Thank you. That's the way to go. nt bemildred Apr 2016 #64

Arrogance vs empathy nt dogman Apr 2016 #29

I rest my case nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #47

One of the reasons I posted this, Geek, is because of that. bemildred Apr 2016 #51

Finger-wagging draws snottiness. The cycle continues. nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #66

Indeed it does. nt bemildred Apr 2016 #69

believe in one person one vote not the elite deciding elections. bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #27

I do not believe the original statement is true apcalc Apr 2016 #33

I'll be proud to vote for either candidate this November. dawg Apr 2016 #34

Oh, I dunno. There are "supporters" in both camps I can't stand. nt SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #35

+1. nt bemildred Apr 2016 #44

The left/right divide in the party has always been there. It's boiling over this time. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #37

It has to boil over, the status quo is not sustainable BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #57

almost 50 years and a cleansing of the party dana_b Apr 2016 #127

Agreed. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #130

This is both Johnny Come Lately and instigation in one. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #38

I hope that that this POTUS cycle begins an internal war to take back the Democratic Party PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #39

What's really going to happen is ... NurseJackie Apr 2016 #48

Hillary is a sellout; only in this for herself. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #42

Because Hillary supporters are like Republicans pinebox Apr 2016 #49

That is beyond stupid. CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #108

+ 100 JoePhilly Apr 2016 #131

Agree. So beyond stupid there should be a new word for it. betsuni Apr 2016 #146

Not to worry. Hillary will "recapture" all of us if she takes the nomination. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #52

I will so happy when the primary season is over.... chillfactor Apr 2016 #53

It's different this time. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #68

Quiet down? Puglover Apr 2016 #96

Right. And DU will be a little false-reality bubble. Some people will be shocked come November. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #97

I agree a 100% Tommy2Tone Apr 2016 #54

Good pinebox Apr 2016 #59

I have friends supporting clinton. We just do not talk about it. oldandhappy Apr 2016 #58

Corruption vs Integrity / War vs Peace / Wall Street vs People RunInCircles Apr 2016 #74

Ah, the smell of self-righteousness in the monring. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #101

Excellent discussion point, RIC. 2banon Apr 2016 #113

I see this as being true UMTerp01 Apr 2016 #83

I don't doubt that the writer accurately describes the hatred at the debate BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #93

I think that's his point, it ain't happening. nt bemildred Apr 2016 #95

Then live with the consequences. creon Apr 2016 #121

Please exclude me from this animosity. creon Apr 2016 #114

huh? 2banon Apr 2016 #118

You made my point. creon Apr 2016 #122

Pray Tell! 2banon Apr 2016 #124

I cannot help you creon Apr 2016 #133

Eh...Two of my favorite people on this planet are Bernie supporters. Lucinda Apr 2016 #138

I have no real problem with the Sanders Supporters I personally know Trenzalore Apr 2016 #140

Bullshit. LaurenG Apr 2016 #141

Because It's progressives vs conservatives messiah Apr 2016 #142

I don't hate the 2 real-life Hillary supporters I know Dems to Win Apr 2016 #145

visceral about being there SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2016 #151

Given how dirty Hillary has been in this campaign, I don't see how she could be pissed at Bernie Vattel Apr 2016 #156

Afraid the divide is too deep. It's essentially New Deal vs Third Way. Doesn't bode well for GE. EndElectoral Apr 2016 #157