2016 Postmortem

LAS14

(13,783 posts) Sat Apr 2, 2016, 11:35 AM Apr 2016

Fossil fuels - Sanders 4 100ths of 1%, Clinton 15 100ths of 1% of total donations. [View all]

"Totally bogus charge against Hillary Clinton" says Mark Shields.

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Fossil fuels - Sanders 4 100ths of 1%, Clinton 15 100ths of 1% of total donations. [View all] LAS14 Apr 2016 OP

That is a lie... GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #1

You do know that a politician doesn't control these PACs? Arneoker Apr 2016 #4

Yeah, there's no backchannel coordination at all... rofl nt revbones Apr 2016 #52

lol SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2016 #54

You really should read up on campaign finance laws. It would be very helpful. George II Apr 2016 #41

Some here suffer from CDS. grossproffit Apr 2016 #42

I hear that's very similar to what many suffered right after Jan 20, 2009 - ODS. The cure is..... George II Apr 2016 #43

You do know that Sanders has SuperPacs & Dark Money too. LOL! KittyWampus Apr 2016 #44

Oh fucking horseshit. TM99 Apr 2016 #53

Did Hillary lose her SuperPACs? DemocracyDirect Apr 2016 #2

Candidates don't "have" super PACs Recursion Apr 2016 #6

Trevor Potter, Jon Stewart, and Steven Colbert had a great series on that.... think Apr 2016 #8

More obfuscating... You know exactly what is implied... nt GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #9

What we are saying is that BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #22

Do you honestly not understand how this works? Warren Stupidity Apr 2016 #11

I clearly do, unlike 99% of the board Recursion Apr 2016 #13

So it is option b Warren Stupidity Apr 2016 #14

Do you think a person as smart as Hillary can work around that? immoderate Apr 2016 #28

I thought they found an internet loophole for coordination and were exploiting it ??? dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #50

She does a LOT of illegal shit... AzDar Apr 2016 #26

You really believe that, don't you? Recursion Apr 2016 #29

Amazing what 25+ years of Lying, Cheating and Stealing will do to your 'reputation'... AzDar Apr 2016 #32

Has the Sanders campaign responded to the FEC about the unreported ten million dollars yet? Koinos Apr 2016 #46

Oh that's very naive. DemocracyDirect Apr 2016 #60

The case that allowed Super PACs was speechnow.org, not Citizens United Recursion Apr 2016 #61

So naive and condescending? DemocracyDirect Apr 2016 #62

Really? Cause it sounds to me like he's gone pretty far off the reservation (nt) Recursion Apr 2016 #63

Naive, condescending and ironic DemocracyDirect Apr 2016 #64

Of course Arneoker Apr 2016 #3

"Totally bogus charge against Hillary Clinton" Dem2 Apr 2016 #5

These are the kind of "artful smears" Hillary was talking about. Adrahil Apr 2016 #7

Bernie Sanders makes me puke. n/t cosmicone Apr 2016 #10

If so WHY NOT just accept the Greenpeace pledge? Armstead Apr 2016 #12

Why even care? Arneoker Apr 2016 #15

Because it is is an example of why nothing positive happens in DC Armstead Apr 2016 #16

That's awfully naive Arneoker Apr 2016 #18

It's a step in the right direction Armstead Apr 2016 #20

Even with all of these obstacles progress can be made Arneoker Apr 2016 #19

What defeatist bullshit. You probably think "nothing good" has happened in the past 8 years, too Recursion Apr 2016 #30

The last 8 years have been a very mixed bag Armstead Apr 2016 #33

Obama's administration has been more successful and consequential than Reagan's or LBJ's Recursion Apr 2016 #34

Why doesn't Sanders? He's gotten more money from Oil/Gas than Trump. KittyWampus Apr 2016 #45

He has taken that pledge Armstead Apr 2016 #49

Campaigns don't "accept money from...PACs" LAS14 Apr 2016 #17

Sanders needs to walk back the vitriol now and apologize. n/t cosmicone Apr 2016 #21

Another Sanders artful smear, if he put as much time into campaign strategy as he did sophistry then uponit7771 Apr 2016 #23

I saw that last night--he basically called the guy a massive honking liar. MADem Apr 2016 #24

Thank you riversedge Apr 2016 #25

K&R mcar Apr 2016 #27

K&R HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #31

K&R. kstewart33 Apr 2016 #35

K&R Alfresco Apr 2016 #36

It's all in the packaging, like in most advertisements. While small, HRC is 375% more than SBS. nt TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #37

Thank you! betsuni Apr 2016 #38

K & R Nonhlanhla Apr 2016 #39

K&R SharonClark Apr 2016 #40

You forgot the superpacs supporting her, and why big oil donates to them. Also her "charity." Scuba Apr 2016 #47

K&R! DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #48

$4.5 million is what I heard dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #51

I will tell you they're not co-ordinating. It's illegal... LAS14 Apr 2016 #56

Sorry I don't believe you. - eom dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #58

It doesn't matter that they are not coordinating. The support still exists. lostnfound Apr 2016 #59

Great post Gothmog Apr 2016 #55

Sanders' ramped up lies about Hillary show his desperation. SunSeeker Apr 2016 #57