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forjusticethunders

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249. There is no other response to Sarandon's comments other than horror and disgust.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:25 PM
Mar 2016

The idea that allowing the fascist candidate win in order to "bring the revolution" is revolting on its face, and should be verboten among ANYONE considering themselves on the left, no matter who you support.

Again this is the mindset that allowed Hitler to take power in Germany - the Communists refused to throw their support behind the Social Democrats because they felt the Social Democrats were sellouts (which was true, the SPD were sellouts to capital, but they weren't fascists).

The idea that it would be preferable to have Donald Trump (or Ted Cruz) for that matter as President over Hillary Clinton is absolutely unacceptable. If you oppose Hillary, I understand, I'm not voting for her in the primary either. But saying there's no difference between her and Trump (like the KPD thought there was no difference between the SPD and the Nazis, at least until the Nazis started throwing the Communists in concentration camps) is ridiculous.

Absolutely indefensible comment.

shameful comment Botany Mar 2016 #1
I see nothing "shameful" about her comment. nt ladjf Mar 2016 #54
just like Ralph Nader's that there was no real difference between Al Gore and w bush comment? Botany Mar 2016 #67
It was your use of the word "shameful" that I disagreed with. ladjf Mar 2016 #71
Ah partisans. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #73
Her quote is disgusting Sheepshank Mar 2016 #96
So you disagree that trump is dangerous nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #108
that is totally off point- she was smiling when talking about the "things will really explode" bettyellen Mar 2016 #115
No, it is not off point nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #119
Yes, he is dangerous. No to bringing on a revolution where "things will really explode" bettyellen Mar 2016 #136
Well at least you agree with her that he is dangerous nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #137
she went totally off script, Bernie does not agree with her about "things will really explode" bettyellen Mar 2016 #157
Yes. This will not play well in America. Hortensis Mar 2016 #209
Very likely. But now he needs to come out and clear the air robbedvoter Mar 2016 #218
Sarandon caught fawning over trump with her statement on Chris Hayes Sheepshank Mar 2016 #143
Because in not normal reading we call that fawning nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #146
Right. Remember she backed Nader in 2000, with him hook, line and sinker . . . brush Mar 2016 #215
Me either. KPN Mar 2016 #94
I disagree. It is shameful riversedge Mar 2016 #263
Don't you all understand the phrase, "some people?" Bohunk68 Mar 2016 #204
she would not say herself where she stood. but her smiling and laughing was bad enough. bettyellen Mar 2016 #223
electing Trump will make things explode larkrake Mar 2016 #206
What's Really Shameful Progressive Avenger Mar 2016 #219
Honest comment. Actually I agree with her. peacebird Mar 2016 #2
Trump thumping is NOT ALLOWED. Agschmid Mar 2016 #5
How is this Trump pumping? The concept that Trump would be so horrible that he would destroy the Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #39
It's not panic, it's sheer frustration with people that think Trump would be better than Clinton. Agschmid Mar 2016 #48
Susan Sarandon did not say Trump would be better than Clinton. She said Trump would be so bad that Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #57
The republican establishment seems to be doing just fine as Trump with the nominee. Agschmid Mar 2016 #58
So do you agree that Trump is dangerous or not? nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #66
Yes Trump is dangerous... for liberals. Agschmid Mar 2016 #70
You mist be watching another race nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #77
The R's split all the time, but guess what... They actually vote for the candidate. Agschmid Mar 2016 #80
That is why the business wing is considering nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #83
Yeah we don't hate the left, we are the left. Agschmid Mar 2016 #89
Clinton is center right nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #92
Your bias is showing. Agschmid Mar 2016 #141
Actually my masters degree is showing nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #147
No that's bias. Agschmid Mar 2016 #148
Understanding political systems is bias? nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #151
I have yet to personally insult you... Yet that's all you've got for me. Agschmid Mar 2016 #153
You have nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #154
Can you get news on your computer? If so, you may want to look into what Mitt Romney is up to these Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #75
The only thing that worries me flobee1 Mar 2016 #95
Agreed. A Trump presidency would destroy a lot more than just the status quo establishment Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #98
I disagree with her and you on that matter. lovemydog Mar 2016 #261
Soros!!11 Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #11
Nader/Trump fans coming out of the woodwork. "not a dimes worth of difference"? redstateblues Mar 2016 #12
I have not heard anyone suggest that there is "not a dimes worth of difference." Hillary is 100% Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #44
that comment goes to Sarandon's credibility as a Nader follower and to neo-Naderites redstateblues Mar 2016 #162
"Hillary is 100% status quo" (Obama = the status quo?) "and Trump is 100% change" (the anti-Obama?). pampango Mar 2016 #166
FYI: that quote refers to Gore/ Republicans and Clinton/ Republicans... bettyellen Mar 2016 #167
You ignore the fact that most of the folks who may not vote for Hillary KPN Mar 2016 #114
Not the Nader nonsense again. ZZZZzzzzzzz. merrily Mar 2016 #183
Better luck next time Renew Deal Mar 2016 #27
Why am I not surprised to see you of all people say this? hrmjustin Mar 2016 #102
That certainly shows how little you care about issues BainsBane Mar 2016 #200
Ugh. zappaman Mar 2016 #3
Can we stop pretending that people who prefer Trump to Clinton are progressives? DanTex Mar 2016 #4
She isn't saying that she prefers Trump's policies Goblinmonger Mar 2016 #180
Which, of course, is insane. Even she actually believes it, it's no excuse for being pro-Trump. DanTex Mar 2016 #182
Her comments in the interview in the link are in no way pro-Trump. ZombieHorde Mar 2016 #231
Did I miss something? Does Trump have actual, well-thought-out policies? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2016 #187
That's the kind of moronic mindset that brought us Bush. Beacool Mar 2016 #195
Dan Savage nailed it... Agschmid Mar 2016 #6
That's fine. RandySF Mar 2016 #8
Rahm and DWS have a D next to their names. dirtydickcheney Mar 2016 #60
So does Clinton, even as she adopts neocon war policies. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #84
really bizarre comment shireen Mar 2016 #7
No she is saying she wants a revolution, no matter how we get it, or what the cost is. Agschmid Mar 2016 #9
She overstated it, but has a valid point. Complacency keeps the corrupt status quo in place Armstead Mar 2016 #52
The headline is a lie, she never said that. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #10
read what she says. Not surprising from a Naderite redstateblues Mar 2016 #13
I did she never said what the op implies. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #14
What she wants RandySF Mar 2016 #15
You can read her mind now? If not you're just making up shit. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #16
. RandySF Mar 2016 #19
Some people do feel that way, where does she say she does? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #22
"some people" RandySF Mar 2016 #25
Apparently you did since you're using their tactics of putting words in people's mouths. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #29
I'm not calling her a witch, I'm calling her wrong. RandySF Mar 2016 #34
Obfuscate much? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #37
Stupidity knows no gender RandySF Mar 2016 #65
Except she never said what you're attributing to her. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #72
You are lying and if you think you are not nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #86
See reply #118 nt LAS14 Mar 2016 #132
Nuance is hard. nt riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #30
Yep and facts are even harder. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #36
Yup, and the stronger they are, the harder they try to swat them down nt riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #40
It is not just women :-) nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #41
Yep look at what they're doing to minorities who support Bernie. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #43
It is starting to back fire though nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #47
They just don't see it, and when they don't turn out to support Hillary in the ge they'll wonder why beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #49
Yes, people are tired of it. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #56
Yup, find the witch, and send her to that cold, dark ring of hell where closeupready Mar 2016 #121
Feminists who don't support Hillary are called vile names by so-called liberals. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #125
Wow, Bernie should renounce her endorsement asap! MoonRiver Mar 2016 #17
Headlines aside, Bernie should denounce this fast. Stuff should stick to him just like it does HC. Jitter65 Mar 2016 #26
The first I've heard of this was on DU. MoonRiver Mar 2016 #32
Yup, that be Clinton (and Trump) nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #42
Your right angrychair Mar 2016 #97
The excerpt shows the headline is a lie. And, BTW, she's right that a Trump presidency would Vote2016 Mar 2016 #18
She means if Trump gets in the country will unite against him. Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #20
What makes you think people would revolt? Agschmid Mar 2016 #55
What makes you think liberals would support a right wing Trump agenda? Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #59
They won't, but when you win and hold both houses of congress and appoint SC nominees. Agschmid Mar 2016 #61
Sure it does. If Trump tries to take us into a war we'll have millions of people in the streets. Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #64
So when Bush tried to take us to war, and we had people protesting everywhere... Agschmid Mar 2016 #76
We tried to stop it but too many liberal Senators supported him Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #79
And you think we will be able to stop a President Trump? Agschmid Mar 2016 #82
We might be able to. If Hillary takes us to war, or cuts social security, half of DU will cheer. Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #87
If we go to war or cuts SS- your big concern is how DUers react? WTFinfF? bettyellen Mar 2016 #124
No. DU is just an example of a group of liberals. Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #130
Yeah, just like we did in 2002. Beacool Mar 2016 #199
That's a silly assumption. Beacool Mar 2016 #197
Dishonest headline nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #21
It's not dishonest. It says "might." LAS14 Mar 2016 #118
You disagree that Trump is dangerous? nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #120
No. I don't disagree. But I think precipitating... LAS14 Mar 2016 #144
Watch the full interview nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #145
So... For the emoprog left Blue_Tires Mar 2016 #23
What a ridiculous thing to say mcar Mar 2016 #24
unbelievable. I've always been a fan but this is crazy MariaThinks Mar 2016 #28
The OP is false nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #46
i believe you. It surprised me MariaThinks Mar 2016 #140
She seems to have slipped a cog somewhere. cwydro Mar 2016 #31
By saying that trump is so dangerous. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #62
I do agree Trump is dangerous. cwydro Mar 2016 #63
Well either you jumped the shark with her nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #68
I'll check it out later nadin. cwydro Mar 2016 #100
Okie dokie nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #112
Exactly BuddhaGirl Mar 2016 #142
I have lost the last shred of respect that I once had for this woman ... salinsky Mar 2016 #33
She's lost it! Firebrand Gary Mar 2016 #35
Heighten the contradictions! alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #38
Except that the OP is wrong and that is not what she said nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #50
That is (almost exactly) what she said. See response #118 nt LAS14 Mar 2016 #123
But that is not what she said nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #126
Voting for Hillary is the antidote to Ramadi, Iraq? Never learn, indeed! merrily Mar 2016 #51
MSNBC is paying Hayes to shill for establishment Democrats, neither Sanders nor Trump. merrily Mar 2016 #45
... SidDithers Mar 2016 #53
She said no such thing ibegurpard Mar 2016 #69
Another "naderite" who falsely leftynyc Mar 2016 #74
She said no such thing. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #81
Cost "my" party? leftynyc Mar 2016 #99
I am a decline to state voter nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #116
See response #118. What is your response? nt LAS14 Mar 2016 #129
Prolly des want a cracker I suppose nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #134
OP is telling the truth. See response #118 - nt LAS14 Mar 2016 #127
Prolly want a cracker nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #128
quite frankly, you sit here DemonGoddess Mar 2016 #244
I became to a decline to state voter in 2011 nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #245
Now, now, now Uponthegears Mar 2016 #109
You are wrong-Nader did give us Bush Gothmog Mar 2016 #149
Oh yea Uponthegears Mar 2016 #176
I volunteer in voter protection efforts for DNC and state party Gothmog Mar 2016 #192
Where were you in 2000? Uponthegears Mar 2016 #193
"if Nader voters had voted against their convictions"???? One of the 99 Mar 2016 #198
D-I-V-E-R-S-I-O-N Uponthegears Mar 2016 #201
Trying to rewrite history is sad Gothmog Mar 2016 #207
Friend Uponthegears Mar 2016 #212
Denial is not just a river in Africa Gothmog Mar 2016 #222
Oh my Uponthegears Mar 2016 #229
You are welcome to your own opinion but not to your own facts Gothmog Mar 2016 #236
I live in FL mcar Mar 2016 #237
I agree with your sentiment Gothmog Mar 2016 #238
Now I am starting to Uponthegears Mar 2016 #239
I love the fact that you are unable to deal with the facts presented Gothmog Mar 2016 #241
Did you ever consider Uponthegears Mar 2016 #246
Again, the fact is that Nader is an idiot who gave us Bush, citizens united and the Shelby county Gothmog Mar 2016 #250
Again, the fact is that the DNC/DLC abandoning PoC gave us Bush, Citizens United and Shelby County Uponthegears Mar 2016 #257
You can keep repeating yourself Uponthegears Mar 2016 #258
Your lack of understanding of causation is amusing Gothmog Mar 2016 #259
I don't deny ANY of those facts Uponthegears Mar 2016 #260
Yes if they have no chance of winning One of the 99 Mar 2016 #251
Headed to Florida on December 12 when the SCOTUS stopped the recount Gothmog Mar 2016 #205
Nader alone didn't give us Bush. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #196
Nader cost Gore two to five times the number of votes than he cost Bush Gothmog Mar 2016 #202
As I said, Nader was a contributing factor One of the 99 Mar 2016 #252
Nader's stupidity and arrogance was sufficient in and of itself the give Bush the election Gothmog Mar 2016 #254
The DNC/DLC's pandering to middle-right suburbanites was sufficient Uponthegears Mar 2016 #256
Agreed Uponthegears Mar 2016 #211
"Some people think...." Does not equal "Trump might be better for America". Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #78
She said more than that. See reply #118. nt LAS14 Mar 2016 #135
I just watched the video. That's not what she said at all. polly7 Mar 2016 #85
FYI -- jury results Amaril Mar 2016 #88
Jury results B2G Mar 2016 #90
I haven't concluded anything. Against the odds, I'm still pulling for Bernie. Jarqui Mar 2016 #91
The full interview is online nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #93
I saw the whole interview last night Jarqui Mar 2016 #101
Yup nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #111
Sarandon also supporter Nader who gave us Bush Gothmog Mar 2016 #103
Sorry Goth Uponthegears Mar 2016 #117
Your analysis is totally wrong and sad. Gothmog Mar 2016 #152
Nader Denialism Lives!! redstateblues Mar 2016 #168
See post #176 Uponthegears Mar 2016 #177
So the tens of thousands of conservadems nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #122
This is the goal of the bernie or bust faction Gothmog Mar 2016 #159
As I said. It is never the fault of the party nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #163
She is disgusting. nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #104
Evidence of the utter insanity of a small (I hope)... LAS14 Mar 2016 #105
Sanders should be pushed on whether she speaks for him. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #106
bernies opinions of trump are public and well documented. restorefreedom Mar 2016 #225
Stupid, dangerous foolish thinking. DCBob Mar 2016 #107
Just watched it again to be sure I hadn't missed what you claim. polly7 Mar 2016 #110
she smiled and chuckled after saying "things will really explode." she just fucked Sanders. bettyellen Mar 2016 #133
Wow. polly7 Mar 2016 #150
Not at all, just amazed Sanders #1 surrogate would go so off script. I bet Bernie is angry. bettyellen Mar 2016 #155
No, you sound really, really pissed. polly7 Mar 2016 #161
LOL, you are imagining things. Like this conversation being about the "sensible" things she said. bettyellen Mar 2016 #164
I listened twice. I'm not imagining anything. polly7 Mar 2016 #165
It is about an interview where she smiled and laughed while saying "things will really explode" bettyellen Mar 2016 #169
Uh yeah ........... I know what it's about. polly7 Mar 2016 #171
Finally acknowledging. Now does Bernie agree that the revolution will come because of Trump? bettyellen Mar 2016 #173
I finally acknowledged your meme of the day is another ugly "shitty" smear. polly7 Mar 2016 #174
Sarandon owns it. Smiling while talking about explosions that lead to revolution... bettyellen Mar 2016 #175
She does own it ....... proudly. polly7 Mar 2016 #178
Thank god Bernie has more sense than she does! I love Bernie, but not his "burn it down" fringe. bettyellen Mar 2016 #179
LOL! Riiiiiiiight. nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #181
There is more than a dimes worth of difference between Sanders and Sarandon. bettyellen Mar 2016 #184
Waaay too much hate - that's not good for you. polly7 Mar 2016 #185
You are imagining things that are not there, Polly. I don't hate morons like Sarandon. bettyellen Mar 2016 #188
Here, watch this .... it will make you feel better: polly7 Mar 2016 #189
I'm already feeling awesome! If there is anything we haven't heard before in that speech bettyellen Mar 2016 #190
You're very welcome. polly7 Mar 2016 #191
"things will really explode" She is writing those attack ads all by herself. bettyellen Mar 2016 #113
Who cares what she thinks? SHRED Mar 2016 #131
She is his most famous and vocal supporter, a surrogate on the trail. bettyellen Mar 2016 #170
What Dan Savage said LyndaG Mar 2016 #138
Bernie or Bust? HughLefty1 Mar 2016 #139
Susan S has joined the #BernieorBust folks. riversedge Mar 2016 #156
she is going to being a lot of eyes to that "movement" and it's not good for Sanders. bettyellen Mar 2016 #160
Sure he will say that if he says riversedge Mar 2016 #228
She should retract what I would hope was said mockingly, nothing would justify such a vote AuntPatsy Mar 2016 #158
If this doesn't give Hillary people some pause, then they're whistling past the graveyard. Jester Messiah Mar 2016 #172
I've been saying this myself. She isn't saying she would vote for Trump and she isn't saying he Nanjeanne Mar 2016 #186
I had no problem with Sarandon endorsing Sanders, it was her prerogative. Beacool Mar 2016 #194
What happened to Chris Hayes? It's like he's dead now. What happened to the bright, alive spirit? senz Mar 2016 #203
I read the article and comments. Looking at it, it seems what she said is mischaracterized. Xyzse Mar 2016 #208
How nice of a filthy rich shill for the far right to announce how little my rights mean BainsBane Mar 2016 #210
You oppose filthy rich far-right shills and yet support Hillary? senz Mar 2016 #214
Given that you obviously haven't taken the time to acquaint BainsBane Mar 2016 #216
OK this is way OTT - she is not standing with Trump. She is A Nanjeanne Mar 2016 #220
Sarandon is a selfish, privileged twit. yardwork Mar 2016 #213
I disagree strongly. She is very wrong on this issue, and not thinking it thru. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #227
She is a fool. n/t Lucinda Mar 2016 #217
Lots of people see things this way... sorry (not sorry) if that hurts anyone's feelings. AzDar Mar 2016 #221
It's just that RandySF Mar 2016 #224
Which is why you should vote for Bernie... AzDar Mar 2016 #230
whatever she meant or didnt mean... restorefreedom Mar 2016 #226
Her comments in the interview were anti-Trump. ZombieHorde Mar 2016 #232
Has the Bernie campaign come out against her statement? FloridaBlues Mar 2016 #233
This thread should be used for the house cleaning. joshcryer Mar 2016 #234
Holding on to status quo for 1% or destroy democracy for 1%.... kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #235
She has "tweeted" that *LOL* she will not vote for Trump. So that is something. bettyellen Mar 2016 #240
No kidding RandySF Mar 2016 #242
Oh yeah, I think she is a sour grapes voter who loved Edwards even if worked on Wall Street bettyellen Mar 2016 #243
OFFS beedle Mar 2016 #247
Enemy at the Gate vs. the Traitor within.... JPnoodleman Mar 2016 #248
There is no other response to Sarandon's comments other than horror and disgust. forjusticethunders Mar 2016 #249
People never learn workinclasszero Mar 2016 #253
Here's a rundown of how it went wrong forjusticethunders Mar 2016 #255
Ive said from day one workinclasszero Mar 2016 #262
She's a celebrity like Donald Trump, pay no attention.....n/t blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 #264
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