2016 Postmortem

bigtree

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6. he's comparing them to what he KNOWS is the overwhelming black vote in the South

Mon Mar 21, 2016, 03:05 PM

Mar 2016

...which voted for Hillary.

He's not speaking in the abstract. He's using the Western and Northern voters as a wedge against these Democrats in the South.

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Sanders still dismissing the black vote in the South which voted overwhelmingly for Hillary [View all] bigtree Mar 2016 OP

Still at it huh? NWCorona Mar 2016 #1

Baiters gotta bait n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #4

Yup! NWCorona Mar 2016 #5

Repeating Sanders own words with context?! Yeap, gonna keep at it too k? thx uponit7771 Mar 2016 #37

I'd expect nothing less NWCorona Mar 2016 #39

Ego. Nt seabeyond Mar 2016 #2

This. nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #114

The west coast is more progressive than the south. Period. arcane1 Mar 2016 #3

he's comparing them to what he KNOWS is the overwhelming black vote in the South bigtree Mar 2016 #6

Whatever you need to say to make yourself feel... whatever it is you're trying to feel. arcane1 Mar 2016 #7

no, goddamn it. None of this makes me 'feel better' bigtree Mar 2016 #8

He has changed his message totally. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #101

It's not anti-southern black for Bernie to try to do better among POC on the West Coast Ken Burch Mar 2016 #102

I beg to differ Setsuna1972 Mar 2016 #111

Not in the context of democrats but go ahead keep telling yourselves what you want to hear no matter uponit7771 Mar 2016 #38

Democrats in CA are not more progressive than Democrats in SC yardwork Mar 2016 #94

His numbers include some conservative states KingFlorez Mar 2016 #9

He beat Hillary in SC with "very liberal" voters. Vattel Mar 2016 #24

So? He still did his best in the most conservative counties in the state KingFlorez Mar 2016 #29

If he can win with "very liberal voters" even in SC, that should tell you something. Vattel Mar 2016 #34

That there aren't enough "very liberal" voters for him to win the primary? tia uponit7771 Mar 2016 #43

that does seem to be a problem Vattel Mar 2016 #84

He did not beat her with "liberal" voters overall... nor with democrats overall. Nice try though uponit7771 Mar 2016 #42

But he did beat her with very liberal voters, which is what I said. Vattel Mar 2016 #86

Sanders Camp response: ....HEY !!! ....HEY!!! This is a no fact zone dammit!! uponit7771 Mar 2016 #40

Fact free zone? RANGERMAN89 Mar 2016 #115

Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #10

Not happening NWCorona Mar 2016 #12

Hahahhahahahha RANGERMAN89 Mar 2016 #15

Well sir, the majority of the Democratic Party agrees with "the wife of the man.....yadda yadda"... George II Mar 2016 #17

"the majority of the Democratic Party agrees"? kristopher Mar 2016 #22

Oh wow RANGERMAN89 Mar 2016 #107

In what manner is she "defending" payday lenders? I think you missed something in that article. George II Mar 2016 #108

Please RANGERMAN89 Mar 2016 #109

How does she accumulate 10 hides without getting a kick from the pizza boot? Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #30

10 hides in a SINGLE MONTH. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #41

Simple answer. Because Bernie is not Hillary. Autumn Mar 2016 #83

Yeah, it's odd, isn't it. /nt Marr Mar 2016 #96

I don't expect much from Sanders. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #11

He's even calling it the "Deep South", as an apparent code word. R B Garr Mar 2016 #13

LOL! The deep south is used all of the time, and never for the way you're implying. Dawgs Mar 2016 #21

LOL yourself! "Deep South" is obviously a regional denotation with implications R B Garr Mar 2016 #66

I've lived in three southern states. redstateblues Mar 2016 #77

Hunh? Hissyspit Mar 2016 #32

Bernie's right. Autumn Mar 2016 #14

Nah, he did his best in conservative counties uponit7771 Mar 2016 #44

You know that's not true. Look at their politicians and the DINOS they elect and then tell me Autumn Mar 2016 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author uponit7771 Mar 2016 #49

Facts DO matter as you stated to me earlier. You don't get to makeup your own facts. Autumn Mar 2016 #59

Kansas and OK, redest states ever since civil war and not full of the "others"? tia uponit7771 Mar 2016 #61

I adressed what Bernie said that article the OP posted, I don't see anything about Kansas and OK Autumn Mar 2016 #67

CA is whiter than OK. OK has the largest percentage of Native Americans of any of the 50 continental Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #87

What did he say that was inaccurate? We're not going to win those states? Look at the last 50 years EndElectoral Mar 2016 #16

The South as a bloc, yes Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #18

Why didn't he say something like.. DCBob Mar 2016 #20

Why does the OP mention "black voters"? n/t Dawgs Mar 2016 #25

because of the overwhelming number of those voters who supported Hillary bigtree Mar 2016 #28

Because Sanders is mostly resonating with white male voters? You know, the coalition that HRC uponit7771 Mar 2016 #45

I had saved this a while back from The Hill. I found it interesting. Autumn Mar 2016 #80

Thanks for some reality. It's a "grown up" look at actual voting. EndElectoral Mar 2016 #85

Oh please, give it a rest Armstead Mar 2016 #19

It does get tiresome, doesn't it? Vattel Mar 2016 #26

Where does he mention the "black voter"? Dawgs Mar 2016 #23

I read the statement by Sanders and do not see the word "black" panader0 Mar 2016 #27

the answer is apparent to so many people outside of this forum that it's almost embarrassing bigtree Mar 2016 #31

I truly do not believe that Sanders or his supporters are oblivious to the importance panader0 Mar 2016 #35

Strawman, no one said they were racist just dismissive as he has been since the beginning of his... uponit7771 Mar 2016 #46

Many, many HRC supporters on this site have called Sanders supporters racist. panader0 Mar 2016 #50

Some of them have been overtly racist and with willing supporters to rec their overtly racist ... uponit7771 Mar 2016 #51

You're losing your mind. The stress of supporting Hillary is getting to you! Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #90

blocked bigtree Mar 2016 #98

Blocked! (Guess I struck a nerve)... tee hee Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #103

He's being totally honest and practical tularetom Mar 2016 #33

Who the in the HELL is running this guys campaign?! He sounds like someone with a REDDIT account !!! uponit7771 Mar 2016 #36

I find nothing wrong with Bernie deciding to write off black Southern voters. Renaissance Man Mar 2016 #48

LOL ... a "progressive" campaign that's mostly homogeneous racially in a non homogeneous party uponit7771 Mar 2016 #53

I don't get your post. Renaissance Man Mar 2016 #54

"writing" off the marginalized isn't progressive in any way, Sanders isn't a progressive he's angry uponit7771 Mar 2016 #56

This is what Hillary did that bugs me. Her people infiltrated Sander's campaign and hurt it Zira Mar 2016 #75

Replying so I can find this easier at a later time. ebayfool Mar 2016 #95

When did Dems last win Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #52

2016, a real democrat won those states in the primary which is his context so... yeah, Sanders is uponit7771 Mar 2016 #55

The presidential elections have already occurred? Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #57

There's a difference between primary and general election, its sad that some Sanders supporters uponit7771 Mar 2016 #60

Gosh, we are talking about Sanders, a presidential candidate, Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #62

He lost the PRIMARY in three states, a word that's being left out of your retort but whatever... uponit7771 Mar 2016 #64

And again, he was, and I am Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #70

Yup, but we have to be careful about repeating Sanders' own words about who R B Garr Mar 2016 #68

Right. It's part of the conservative 'bible belt' ... ebayfool Mar 2016 #63

Like Kansas and OK were there are less black folk but their two of the redest stats in the union!? uponit7771 Mar 2016 #65

They are part of that conservative belt I spoke of ... ebayfool Mar 2016 #72

Saying that he'll do better out of the south should get the same outrage as "super predators" got whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #58

It's a fact he'll do better out of the South. The South is for Hillary. Zira Mar 2016 #74

Yes, it was disgusting whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #79

The gross part about it is that it's so disenguous. When cornered on one of these slimey Marr Mar 2016 #97

I remember 8 years ago RandySF Mar 2016 #69

Bernie didn't write off southern voters, they wrote him off. Vinca Mar 2016 #71

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #73

How many Times was Hillary arrested for protesting civil rights.... LonelyLiberalOhio Mar 2016 #76

He knows how to "spin" a... Mike Nelson Mar 2016 #78

Tell it to this guy whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #81

why do you hate Latinos? Enrique Mar 2016 #82

blocked bigtree Mar 2016 #99

The title of your thread so totally dishonest - surprise! Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #88

We are not going to win Kansas, Nebraska, or Oklahoma either. iandhr Mar 2016 #89

A campaign has to prioritize hellofromreddit Mar 2016 #91

the western Democratic voters probably tend to be less religious 0rganism Mar 2016 #92

I was assured here on DU that Bernie was going to win all 50 states. RandySF Mar 2016 #93

Anothe Clinton supporter lie. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #104

He's not dismissing black voters in the South. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #100

Don't bother - they never answer to reason. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #105

Of course he is. nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #106

this is why I can't support Sanders Setsuna1972 Mar 2016 #110

Those states are deep, deep red. PeteSelman Mar 2016 #112

I heard Bernie was arrested for running an all-lives-matter protest! Orsino Mar 2016 #113