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2016 Postmortem

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timmymoff

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Sun Mar 20, 2016, 12:48 PM Mar 2016

What people are missing. [View all]

Some democrats (Hillary supporters) Think that if she is nominated the Bernie supporters are going to fall in line and support her center-right policies, her new evolutions. We aren't as gullible as you. We know the hard lurch back right is coming. We know her words were hollow at best. We aren't going anywhere, but we especially aren't going into acceptance mode of what we feel ails us. I am a lifelong democrat, I am an FDR democrat. I am not a WST democrat (Wall St.). I am not an HRC democrat, nor a DWS democrat. My efforts will be on the local level. Bernie won by 5000 in my county, therefore the need to change the politics of old in our county ( Democratic party only supported Clinton and got their ass handed to them.) I will more concentrate my efforts on building a true democratic party, a liberal party, as opposed to the failed policies of Wall St. I will vote for all the liberal candidates down ballot, but if Hillary wins the nomination, I will leave that blank. It's not that I don't care, but that they know longer care about me. this reaction is something Hillary, and her supporters, have earned. as stated before, enjoy your Frankentein's monster. I am not interested in uniting with someone who opposes me and my beliefs. Eventually you have to tell a loved one when they are wrong, and I guess this is the time for tough love. You earned it.

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What people are missing. [View all] timmymoff Mar 2016 OP
Bernie Is The Only Antidote To Rampant DNC DWS DLC HRC Third-Way Corporatist Corruption cantbeserious Mar 2016 #1
Mussolini: “Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism... kristopher Mar 2016 #190
O.K...nt SidDithers Mar 2016 #2
Good luck timmymoff Mar 2016 #4
... SidDithers Mar 2016 #11
Put it this way.. pangaia Mar 2016 #68
Meh. Sometimes you have to burn the field to get the grass to grow. Fawke Em Mar 2016 #116
Please don't use violent language! Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #104
You're reading way, way too much into the expression...nt SidDithers Mar 2016 #109
So a fascist GOP White House wont affect you? Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #3
I got through Bush and Reagan timmymoff Mar 2016 #6
I see, so your gay friends and black friends & latino be damned, the environment be damned Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #8
i hold this attitude because I am liberal. timmymoff Mar 2016 #10
Oh for fuck sake NO liberal acts in such a way that elects GOP...not ever, not one. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #14
No liberal timmymoff Mar 2016 #16
Well, tell that to every single vote ever cast for any Democratic president since Carter. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #19
No timmymoff Mar 2016 #21
Bernie supporter here, who wont be selfish and walk away because I didnt get everything Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #23
You should be angry timmymoff Mar 2016 #26
Actually, the truth is, propping up Hillary in a contest where she's got a 50/50 chance of losing to 2banon Mar 2016 #100
Then why do you have "Hillary Clinton" as a group that you belong to? Loki Mar 2016 #127
If I do it was from long ago timmymoff Mar 2016 #130
They are damned either way. basselope Mar 2016 #24
Nope, and you know it. Just admit it if it applies, you are not going to vote Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #27
It isn't what is wanted that is the problem timmymoff Mar 2016 #36
So POC and gay folks and immigrants need to be beaten, deported, treated like 2nd class Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #37
like children being sent back to honduras? timmymoff Mar 2016 #38
Good, you do that, in the meantime I will tell the ten million immigrants to prepare for Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #41
You have the ability to reach timmymoff Mar 2016 #42
That you would compare Hillary to Trump, says it all. I pray to god you are in a tiny minority, Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author timmymoff Mar 2016 #44
Hear! Hear! Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #107
Its amazing how these Hillary people sound just like crazy RWingers. They cant hide it at all litlbilly Mar 2016 #148
Again.. they are going to hell anyway. basselope Mar 2016 #47
This is beyond sanity now. Comparing Hillary to any GOP is amazing, outrageous and ridiculous Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #49
It's not a "comparison"... she is what she is. A republican. basselope Mar 2016 #52
And that comment is not sane. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #53
Considering Clinton a "democrat" is not sane. basselope Mar 2016 #54
Your lack of knowledge of the two party system, is it going to result in fascism? Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #56
Two halves of the same coin. basselope Mar 2016 #60
In case you hadnt noticed, we are already an oligarchy. A few huge corps own and control litlbilly Mar 2016 #153
Goldwater Repulican, end of discussion... litlbilly Mar 2016 #158
Your FEAR FEAR FEAR fanaticism is what is insane. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #174
Gay folks did fine under Reagan hellofromreddit Mar 2016 #82
They simply don't care about the country. Beacool Mar 2016 #90
Some of us worry about that. Fawke Em Mar 2016 #118
BE AFRAID!!! Vote with your amygdala, not your intellect!!!!11 arcane1 Mar 2016 #106
not much more the the Hillary corporatist faction. They will do nothing for the middle class at all litlbilly Mar 2016 #146
Sounds like a lot of Bernie supporters. Selfish and horrible. So the harm Trump Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #149
bye bye jackie, ignore list you go. done reading this kind of nonsense litlbilly Mar 2016 #155
This is why it's hard to take this stuff seriously CorkySt.Clair Mar 2016 #5
Ahh yes, Clinton is stealing elections bullshit, again. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #20
Now you are calling Hillary a Mussolini wannabe??? basselope Mar 2016 #50
Why do you want a fascist for president? Why are you advocating for Trump or Cruz? Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #55
I don't vote for Republicans. basselope Mar 2016 #58
You also really dont know what you are talking about. Not meant to be an insult. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #61
Probably been around longer than most here. basselope Mar 2016 #72
Don't you have anything else better to do? pangaia Mar 2016 #73
Do you even know what a fascist is? They are "corporatists". kristopher Mar 2016 #188
You sound like a Hillary supporter. Did I read it that you support Bernie bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #69
Proving again that a decent chunk of Bernie supporters are children Blue_Adept Mar 2016 #7
Are you voting for Bernie? timmymoff Mar 2016 #9
I voted for Bernie in the MA primary Blue_Adept Mar 2016 #12
i voted for Bernie timmymoff Mar 2016 #15
A decent chunk of 840high Mar 2016 #45
I am not a child nor do I act like one. I am offended by your comment but I'm already over it bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #70
If that offends you then the world must offend you constantly Blue_Adept Mar 2016 #97
Not really just some people but I get over it quickly bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #112
Have at it. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #13
That's great timmymoff Mar 2016 #17
News flash! We don't care if you vote for Hillary or not! leftofcool Mar 2016 #18
Thank you timmymoff Mar 2016 #22
That clears things up. Lol nt NCTraveler Mar 2016 #32
Please vote for whomever you want and spare the rest of us the drama. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #25
Yea we wouldn't want to make waves. timmymoff Mar 2016 #28
booyah dmm80 Mar 2016 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #75
Hit them where they're the weakest. Baitball Blogger Mar 2016 #29
First elections are tough. grossproffit Mar 2016 #30
Thank you timmymoff Mar 2016 #33
Robert Scheer and Thomas Franks made many good points in their discussion BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #31
Correct. The carnage that Hillary and a republican congress will rain down on the poor and Doctor_J Mar 2016 #76
And throw in the fact that Hillary would control the Democratic Party through at least 2020 BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #81
I agree with you revbones Mar 2016 #34
I agree with you. timmymoff Mar 2016 #35
In this political environment Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #39
well maybe timmymoff Mar 2016 #40
She'll do and say what she thinks is required to win. But, her comfort zone is to the right. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #176
If this were the politics of the 1990's Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #189
Take a moment to honestly look into yourself. anotherproletariat Mar 2016 #46
Looking into myself timmymoff Mar 2016 #48
I respectfully disagree. Maedhros Mar 2016 #80
If a Rep wins the White House, he will put cons on the Supreme Court TheDormouse Mar 2016 #51
so would hillary timmymoff Mar 2016 #57
don't be absurd--look who appointed Ginsburg nt TheDormouse Mar 2016 #64
So will Hillary Doctor_J Mar 2016 #59
no matter how much u might disagree w/HRC's SCOTUS choices--They won't be 1/4 as bad as Ted Cruz's, TheDormouse Mar 2016 #66
And that's the best we should hope for BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #74
no--work ur ass off for the candidate u prefer; but if s/he loses, take the next best TheDormouse Mar 2016 #77
The next best timmymoff Mar 2016 #83
take the next best ... that actually stands a chance of winning nt TheDormouse Mar 2016 #84
Pick a winner timmymoff Mar 2016 #85
it's not selling out--it's surviving to fight another day rather than falling on your sword TheDormouse Mar 2016 #92
I'm not falling on a sword timmymoff Mar 2016 #94
Hell, we have a Democrat in office now and his current nominee is a pro-corporate minion who Fawke Em Mar 2016 #120
^^^This. artislife Mar 2016 #129
& he is 63 TheDormouse Mar 2016 #172
If Hillary or a repub gets in, our country wont be around that long, so, it wont matter litlbilly Mar 2016 #164
Get the Republicans Out november3rd Mar 2016 #62
I hear you timmymoff Mar 2016 #65
yeah, the Sandernistas will know what's coming MisterP Mar 2016 #67
I swore to stick by Bernie through thick and thin. Even it means writing his name in. dmm80 Mar 2016 #71
Well timmymoff Mar 2016 #78
^^^This dmm80 Mar 2016 #79
It doesn't really matter if the Bernie-or-bust Bros refuse to vote for Hillary ... salinsky Mar 2016 #86
Not in the 1990's sense of a democrat timmymoff Mar 2016 #88
I've voted for the Democrat in every presidential election since 1988. Fawke Em Mar 2016 #133
Do whatever you want. Beacool Mar 2016 #87
I am doing whatever I want timmymoff Mar 2016 #91
What fear? Beacool Mar 2016 #95
That fear timmymoff Mar 2016 #99
Amen! couldn't agree more . pdsimdars Mar 2016 #89
O Timmy the wise one of over 200 posts, tell us rock Mar 2016 #93
Does my lack of time in this group bother you? timmymoff Mar 2016 #96
I don't think they realise how serious the problem is. sibelian Mar 2016 #98
It looks as if your post opposes mine, timmymoff Mar 2016 #101
from another thread MisterP Mar 2016 #131
Go away. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #102
That's the problem timmymoff Mar 2016 #103
You are an acronym Democrat!!! wildeyed Mar 2016 #105
I think the kids call it timmymoff Mar 2016 #108
Yeah, because you know me sooooo well! wildeyed Mar 2016 #113
My needs have been met long ago timmymoff Mar 2016 #114
Then you are lucky wildeyed Mar 2016 #115
It's earned timmymoff Mar 2016 #117
Yeah, well I got mine, too. wildeyed Mar 2016 #119
by choosing clinton you are doing exactly that. timmymoff Mar 2016 #122
Statistically, PUMAs did not exists. wildeyed Mar 2016 #124
I made no such deal timmymoff Mar 2016 #125
OK, well don't let it hit you on your wildeyed Mar 2016 #126
I won't timmymoff Mar 2016 #134
blah blah blah JoePhilly Mar 2016 #110
Not a lesson timmymoff Mar 2016 #111
Oh yea ... that's it ... JoePhilly Mar 2016 #135
fear mongering timmymoff Mar 2016 #136
Sounds like a good title ... JoePhilly Mar 2016 #138
You weren't required to respond timmymoff Mar 2016 #141
I can respond to any OP I want ... JoePhilly Mar 2016 #144
I won't need them. timmymoff Mar 2016 #147
She'll beat Trump easily. JoePhilly Mar 2016 #152
I have no reason to leave timmymoff Mar 2016 #182
Yea, ok. JoePhilly Mar 2016 #183
We tried warning you; you chose the sand timmymoff Mar 2016 #184
Um, you got spanked. JoePhilly Mar 2016 #185
yea, we got spanked timmymoff Mar 2016 #186
"We aren't as gullible as you" Tarc Mar 2016 #121
13 % timmymoff Mar 2016 #123
Our new friend will be long gone by then. JoePhilly Mar 2016 #139
Why do people like you feel the need to tell us that you won't vote for Hillary ? Trust Buster Mar 2016 #128
I guess it is a warning timmymoff Mar 2016 #132
Says who ? You ? The majority of Democrats DO NOT agree with your opinion. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #137
This guy is hilarious. JoePhilly Mar 2016 #142
No timmymoff Mar 2016 #187
You know what timmymoff Loki Mar 2016 #143
I'm not telling you anything timmymoff Mar 2016 #150
You know nothing Loki Mar 2016 #156
I've lived timmymoff Mar 2016 #157
As if all the other years never happened. Loki Mar 2016 #171
So timmymoff Mar 2016 #173
Where were you during the Reagan, Bush, Bush years??????? Loki Mar 2016 #175
And the free trade clintons are the ones to stop this trend? timmymoff Mar 2016 #178
I too am done, with centrist dem policies offered by the clintons timmymoff Mar 2016 #179
I would of fallen in line 3 months ago, now they have been so rude and arrogant I cannot..... Logical Mar 2016 #140
My feelings exactly Timmy litlbilly Mar 2016 #145
feel free to take your ball and go home - I doubt your absence will be noticed DrDan Mar 2016 #151
Thank you timmymoff Mar 2016 #154
you overestimate your relevance DrDan Mar 2016 #160
Not when timmymoff Mar 2016 #163
This is the kind of stuff that gives Bernie supporters a bad name. AgadorSparticus Mar 2016 #159
If not subscribing to be sold out timmymoff Mar 2016 #161
I get it. So while Rome is burning down, you will pity the rest of us from your high horse. AgadorSparticus Mar 2016 #165
No timmymoff Mar 2016 #167
A bad name with whom? Hillary fanatics that's who! I wear that as a badge of honor. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #177
Another puma making excuse for going all puma. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #162
Just an american who timmymoff Mar 2016 #166
The fact you think that is all i need to know. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #168
Maybe not timmymoff Mar 2016 #169
Good day. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #170
I'm pretty sure Hillary will do just fine without the keyboard warrior vote. n/t Lucinda Mar 2016 #180
she did so fine in our county timmymoff Mar 2016 #181
Yep, I don't care what the OP does or any few dozen here who say the same stevenleser Mar 2016 #191
let it ride out Mary Mac Mar 2016 #192
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