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Cha

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64. I made a comment there.. it isn't showing up yet.. but this is what I said..
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 04:22 AM
Mar 2016
"So much of what you're saying it absolutely what I've seen from my AA cyber friends.

Thank you, Fiq. I'm pretty sure Hillary does not insult African Americans when they're not around, though.

As a Scotch Irish lass I can say BS throwing shade on President Obama was what turned me totally of his rhetoric.. He wanted Obama primaried in 2012 for disingenuous bullshite. Shows me his thinking isn't sound and he's proven that to be more than true ever since".


We are not impressed by Bernie’s lack of polish and quirky persona. Do you know why Barrack Obama is the president right now? It’s greatly because he played the political game masterfully. You know why he played the game masterfully? Because as a talented African American I’m sure that years prior someone let him know he had to be twice as good in order to get half as much as the Bernie’s of the world. In his case he is three times as good so he became a two term president, who again Bernie had the nerve to throw shade at. I could say the same for Hillary Clinton. When you aren’t a straight, white, male legislating in arguably the whitest state in the country, you might come across a situation where you need learn how to wear a decent suit, how to speak with more finesse, and avoid odd tics in your speaking presence just so you can be taken seriously. When you’re black or a woman you don’t have the privilege of being quirky if you want to be a leader. The fact that Bernie flaunts these obvious flaws as some type of endearing trait lets us know that he really doesn’t get it.

Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #1
If it is they can fuck off. I feel confident saying Sanders doesn't want those kind of people. white_wolf Mar 2016 #2
Personally, I think its the 40 Acres and a Mule offering FrenchieCat Mar 2016 #7
Sorry, you got a hide, Frenchie. The good news is they can't suspend anyone anymore with their Cha Mar 2016 #68
That had to be the worst hide in the world. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #112
+1 MaggieD Mar 2016 #161
It was only hidden because folks didn't want to discuss the content. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #163
That's it. These guys have burned 1000 calories pretending that Sanders supporters like that guy Number23 Mar 2016 #252
They actually brought more attention to it by hiding it... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #253
a bit of clarification redruddyred Mar 2016 #95
We don't have time for electing a candidate based on a "largely symbolic" platform. politicaljunkie41910 Mar 2016 #238
apparently monsieur sanders has been doing just this all these years redruddyred Mar 2016 #260
B represents change snowy owl Mar 2016 #254
That was a bogus hide. So typical of this place. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #115
Skinner should unhide it so we can discuss it. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #117
Agreed! hrmjustin Mar 2016 #118
I was trying to find his facebook page to see if there are any more goodies. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #120
Discuss it? We all know there are racist morons in the world whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #138
Yeah unhide it UglyGreed Mar 2016 #209
What's bogus is that twitter account melman Mar 2016 #203
Did you look for it on twitter? hrmjustin Mar 2016 #205
and a bizarre bogus hide at that. Unbelievable. kwassa Mar 2016 #221
Agreed Gothmog Mar 2016 #239
wow just wow on that hide dsc Mar 2016 #246
I agree bravenak Mar 2016 #11
Yeah, about that "not managing the message" thing... kristopher Mar 2016 #34
. bravenak Mar 2016 #39
lol.. they got over it and united to make pull our country out of the hell hole that bush left. Cha Mar 2016 #84
It drives them crazy bravenak Mar 2016 #88
Funny how people forget the smoking ruins that Bush and the republicans workinclasszero Mar 2016 #89
history lesson: redruddyred Mar 2016 #93
Birthers too workinclasszero Mar 2016 #111
Created by Koch Industries to oppose government programs to help poor people. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #201
i also think there is astroturfing afoot nt redruddyred Mar 2016 #261
Probably because their Donors told them to unite and play nice! Dustlawyer Mar 2016 #126
Indeed treestar Mar 2016 #153
Right treestar.. a true friendship ensued.. did you see that vapid comment above..? Cha Mar 2016 #249
Why is "Hillary Clinton is a liar" in quotations FrenchieCat Mar 2016 #40
Because - but, but, but Hillary! EffieBlack Mar 2016 #92
You could also post a picture of Obama hugging Clinton with a HUGE Obama-esque grin... George II Mar 2016 #150
Of course this type of stuff hurts him... ljm2002 Mar 2016 #207
OFFS. He did not say this!!!! there really are no words for that depth of stupid. Cha Mar 2016 #4
That is horrible bravenak Mar 2016 #8
Good read. Hoyt Mar 2016 #3
It was like a roller coaster bravenak Mar 2016 #5
The problem for bernie is.. it's not the AA voters fault they don't like him .. it's his fault. Cha Mar 2016 #6
I agree bravenak Mar 2016 #9
+1 uponit7771 Mar 2016 #72
"Starting with wanting President Obama primaried in 2012..." workinclasszero Mar 2016 #90
Do you really want Bernie to be accountable for his comradebillyboy Mar 2016 #141
Great post Cha Gothmog Mar 2016 #240
Huh? progressoid Mar 2016 #243
As a Black and Pinoy person... RepubliCON-Watch Mar 2016 #10
I respect your position bravenak Mar 2016 #12
If only Bernie had a plan besides a convenient political revolution FrenchieCat Mar 2016 #13
Well.. RepubliCON-Watch Mar 2016 #18
Well, it's a bit late to.... FrenchieCat Mar 2016 #31
It's never too late.... RepubliCON-Watch Mar 2016 #38
A big problem is that Bernie has never evidence any interest in these issues until he started EffieBlack Mar 2016 #96
Exactly MaggieD Mar 2016 #165
That's not entirely true. RepubliCON-Watch Mar 2016 #199
I read the piece RepubliCON-Watch Mar 2016 #22
I think racism has hindered our community.... FrenchieCat Mar 2016 #25
I agree. RepubliCON-Watch Mar 2016 #29
We need both at the same time bravenak Mar 2016 #32
Absolutely! RepubliCON-Watch Mar 2016 #33
when a candidate is not willing to entertain reparation.... FrenchieCat Mar 2016 #36
Yeah I was disappointed in him for that. RepubliCON-Watch Mar 2016 #44
I respect and appreciate your views. lovemydog Mar 2016 #19
GREAT!!! RepubliCON-Watch Mar 2016 #24
I'm doing that as best I can too! lovemydog Mar 2016 #27
P.S. compelling aritcle.. I just wanted to post my previous one first.. still reading it. Cha Mar 2016 #14
Yes. It is great bravenak Mar 2016 #15
This part is good: Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #16
I was laughing so hard I cried bravenak Mar 2016 #17
I'm just starting to read it now. lovemydog Mar 2016 #20
But, they ate cornbread and greens! Cha Mar 2016 #26
All kinds of SOUL FOOD bravenak Mar 2016 #43
+1 uponit7771 Mar 2016 #74
Thanks b. lovemydog Mar 2016 #21
Pure comedy but laced with fresh honesty bravenak Mar 2016 #23
The line about Iggy Azalea made me laugh out loud. lovemydog Mar 2016 #28
Had me rollin!! bravenak Mar 2016 #30
I know what you mean. lovemydog Mar 2016 #35
We could have our own show on comedy central bravenak Mar 2016 #37
Keyed & Peeled lovemydog Mar 2016 #41
I wanna be Keyed!! bravenak Mar 2016 #42
Buahahaha! lovemydog Mar 2016 #45
Go! It was Hillaryous! bravenak Mar 2016 #46
thanks for the good read. nt msongs Mar 2016 #47
Your welcome. bravenak Mar 2016 #48
Thanks for sharing. shadowandblossom Mar 2016 #49
I remember that monster thread bravenak Mar 2016 #51
Thanks, Bravenak. Articles like this help open my eyes. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #50
I'm glad. It was nice and funny to take the sting out bravenak Mar 2016 #54
OMG. "That one uncle with a business idea" Recursion Mar 2016 #52
I HAVE ONE bravenak Mar 2016 #53
Every Thanksgiving he tells us his next plan Recursion Mar 2016 #60
Sounds like my cousin bravenak Mar 2016 #73
Like my cousin who always has a great idea and wants me to help him "find a government grant" EffieBlack Mar 2016 #98
Oh God! bravenak Mar 2016 #100
Great article Gothmog Mar 2016 #55
We told them bravenak Mar 2016 #56
Yes we did Gothmog Mar 2016 #234
Ouch! I remember both these conversations being held recently.. Cha Mar 2016 #57
The double standards are glaring bravenak Mar 2016 #58
Truth. Have we seen Killer Mike since South Carolina? EffieBlack Mar 2016 #99
interesting read, thank you! nt steve2470 Mar 2016 #59
Yo!!! bravenak Mar 2016 #61
It looks to me like Fiq Blerdman holds a cynical, conservative ideology, has given up Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #62
I think he's right about both, we are not a monolith and we like the Clintons bravenak Mar 2016 #63
"Conservative".. Yeah, I don't.. he's straight up saying why he's not Impressed with BS. For Cha Mar 2016 #65
Not at all bravenak Mar 2016 #67
"Conservative" Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #76
I don't see how supporting someone who has a strong possibility of being Americas first woman ... uponit7771 Mar 2016 #78
So if Carly Fiorina or Sarah Palin were elected that would progressive or liberal because Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #79
No, it wouldn't be conservative though and Hillary is not Thatcher... not on any scale, that's ... uponit7771 Mar 2016 #82
Hillary's tendency for regime change, tacit support for military coup and waging war in Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #83
It's closer to 70% in the North and Bernie's message is all inclusive, in telling the "nation" Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #69
Drop the mic, Bravenak! EffieBlack Mar 2016 #105
I been hoping that repeating it might help them get it bravenak Mar 2016 #108
Word MaggieD Mar 2016 #170
I made a comment there.. it isn't showing up yet.. but this is what I said.. Cha Mar 2016 #64
Good comment bravenak Mar 2016 #66
Cha, I replied before seeing your post here GMTA lunamagica Mar 2016 #218
'Cause we loved it, lunamagica.. thought it was Cha Mar 2016 #250
"He sounds like that one uncle who always has a business idea but no business plan & no bank loan" uponit7771 Mar 2016 #70
I know, right... bravenak Mar 2016 #71
yeap, shit we said damn near a year ago is still being said today about Sanders. The white gender uponit7771 Mar 2016 #75
Omg bravenak Mar 2016 #77
Yes yes YES. That was exactly the sentence that caught me too Recursion Mar 2016 #85
I think the points made in the article were excellent. qdouble Mar 2016 #80
I agree bravenak Mar 2016 #81
K&R! stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #86
K&R! DemonGoddess Mar 2016 #87
I LOVE this piece! It expresses what so many of us have been saying EffieBlack Mar 2016 #91
Pretty damn good!!!! bravenak Mar 2016 #94
Hey Bravenak - posting for the sake of transparency and btw it was a thought provoking piece. seaglass Mar 2016 #97
Thank you!! What a good jury. bravenak Mar 2016 #101
Please consider hitting the alert button on that sufrommich Mar 2016 #107
Yes please do workinclasszero Mar 2016 #114
Can't believe this was alerted on! workinclasszero Mar 2016 #109
I guess the partisan jury pools are being reduced. joshcryer Mar 2016 #121
That was a great article bravenak workinclasszero Mar 2016 #102
Somebody sent it to me and I figured we might enjoy it bravenak Mar 2016 #104
Results... Major Nikon Mar 2016 #103
Thank you!! bravenak Mar 2016 #106
That article wasn't illuminating at all hellofromreddit Mar 2016 #110
Look bravenak Mar 2016 #124
A question I can never get a good answer to whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #145
They continued the fight their enire lives bravenak Mar 2016 #147
Nobody would disagree that no one is more central to the struggle than the oppressed themselves whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #151
It is less of a rejection and more of a response to the constant shoving of him at us based bravenak Mar 2016 #154
I find part of what you're saying true and part untrue whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #162
When I get sick of something? bravenak Mar 2016 #166
Well... if you think Hillary Clinton is the path to that better place whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #178
We make our own paths bravenak Mar 2016 #181
Hard to argue with that whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #187
Righteous! Have a great saturday! bravenak Mar 2016 #188
Same to you whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #195
Here's a good answer MaggieD Mar 2016 #184
You know... whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #194
His campaign has made a lot of mistakes MaggieD Mar 2016 #197
They also did a lot of things right whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #198
Well, bravenak is apparently not too fond of Jews. see my post #213 below. kath Mar 2016 #217
Thanks for the response hellofromreddit Mar 2016 #257
Excellent article, bravenak! Koinos Mar 2016 #113
I agree bravenak Mar 2016 #134
Devine and Weaver shot Sanders in the foot a number of times. Koinos Mar 2016 #158
I believe that is why Devine Does not win presidentials here at home bravenak Mar 2016 #159
It is probably too late for Sanders to shake up his staff at this point. Koinos Mar 2016 #171
That is absolutely how I see it bravenak Mar 2016 #180
I know that Clinton's staff is reputed to be diverse. Koinos Mar 2016 #183
She really does hire alot of minorities and Women bravenak Mar 2016 #185
Listening... Koinos Mar 2016 #190
Yeah, Weaver's been with Sanders since the 1990's Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #202
Good analysis. Koinos Mar 2016 #206
Yep. I agree to the fullest. bravenak Mar 2016 #263
Damn Stuckinthebush Mar 2016 #116
Hell yeah bravenak Mar 2016 #119
Thank you Stuckinthebush Mar 2016 #122
Thank you bravenak Mar 2016 #128
Well that was revolting whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #123
I said there were things I did not agree with and put that disclainer so folks did not bravenak Mar 2016 #129
What I'd suggest to the contrary would be... thesquanderer Mar 2016 #125
I agree that we like both pretty much the same bravenak Mar 2016 #130
About as interesting as the views you expressed here: Vattel Mar 2016 #127
Very interesting. For those that didn't click on the link kath Mar 2016 #213
Indeed. progressoid Mar 2016 #244
It's also interesting that no one else thought that Vattel's post was interesting, after all these kath Mar 2016 #255
Seems the major and repeated point in the article is Bernie threw shade at Obama. EndElectoral Mar 2016 #131
That's not "throwing shade", most of Sanders critiques of Obama were unfair at best and included uponit7771 Mar 2016 #132
There was never more shade thrown at Obama than by the person who ran against him 2008 whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #140
That was a political campaign where shade is expected, even if they were best friends it would be... uponit7771 Mar 2016 #142
Sure whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #143
Facts matter, that's what I say uponit7771 Mar 2016 #144
Why did she run against him? whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #146
in 2008 she being Clinton and he being Obama... that's a known, what are you really asking here? uponit7771 Mar 2016 #148
Yeah... whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #152
Or that he would get poor kids jobs sl they wont be hanging on street corners? bravenak Mar 2016 #164
Not the same, bravenak whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #174
They were all ill considered and much more recent bravenak Mar 2016 #176
"Throwing shade" seems to mean criticizing Obama from the left. Cowpunk Mar 2016 #247
The author is younger than I am, and I was about six in 1988 bravenak Mar 2016 #133
Sanders has barely made a dent during his long political career pandr32 Mar 2016 #135
Yep bravenak Mar 2016 #137
Agreed! pandr32 Mar 2016 #196
AMEN!!! - " What has he shown us as a senator in the mighty state of Vermont to support this type of uponit7771 Mar 2016 #149
Apparently Democrats in Vermont disagree with you. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #264
Rec. nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #136
One of the better opinion pieces I have seen lately comradebillyboy Mar 2016 #139
I loved it bravenak Mar 2016 #155
K&R ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #156
It really does relate to much more than just this bravenak Mar 2016 #157
Me too ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #168
Very good article MaggieD Mar 2016 #160
Finally people are saying it more and more bravenak Mar 2016 #175
Then why post this spiteful, nihilist, anonymous blogger stuff? KeepItReal Mar 2016 #167
What specifically do you object to? ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #169
Posting an blog that attacks both Democratic Primary candidates KeepItReal Mar 2016 #179
Why do you spend time worried about what I discuss? bravenak Mar 2016 #172
This is a GD-P post that is highly Rec'd. So I read it. KeepItReal Mar 2016 #182
Ok. You do not like it. Ok. bravenak Mar 2016 #186
Feel free to respond to my post #167. Or not. It's a free country. KeepItReal Mar 2016 #189
Not probably bravenak Mar 2016 #192
I love this blog. This was my favorite part: PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #173
More like the High Sparrow to me but Ned Stark fits too bravenak Mar 2016 #177
It all comes down to this. HassleCat Mar 2016 #191
Yep bravenak Mar 2016 #193
Thank you for implementing this piece to the board bravenak. serbbral Mar 2016 #200
What I got out of the article: "Lesser of two evils ... she is more beholden to the black vote" floppyboo Mar 2016 #204
I see it as being used... TCJ70 Mar 2016 #208
but that's just it - the author DOES expect something floppyboo Mar 2016 #211
That's a little cynical... TCJ70 Mar 2016 #214
Great article! I'm glad someone finally said the following: lunamagica Mar 2016 #210
Just curious... TCJ70 Mar 2016 #212
They don't disquilify him, but they would have disqualified PBO and HRC lunamagica Mar 2016 #223
That's a ridiculous statement. The leaps of logic are amazing. Armstead Mar 2016 #216
The author of the article is arguably sexist floppyboo Mar 2016 #219
No one said racist or sexist Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #220
You may have a point there but i still disagree with the premise Armstead Mar 2016 #222
True...quite frankly, I personally DO like some of those more "ethnic traits" of Bernie's Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #245
Honestly, her churchiness bothers me more than any of his traits ever could. bravenak Mar 2016 #262
See reply #223 lunamagica Mar 2016 #224
It's still BS Armstead Mar 2016 #226
Your 'guesses and "coulhaves" don't invalidate the facts as they are lunamagica Mar 2016 #228
Niether of us will ever know Armstead Mar 2016 #229
Do you really believe that women and PoC are playing on the same level as white men? lunamagica Mar 2016 #230
No I don't. Armstead Mar 2016 #231
I see you didn't real my post. The "quirkiness" (and there's a reson I put in in quotes) lunamagica Mar 2016 #232
I did read your post Armstead Mar 2016 #236
I don't know how we go into this point. My post was in reference to this in the OP lunamagica Mar 2016 #242
Thanks. SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #215
Good opinion piece, Bravenak. Thanks for posting it. kwassa Mar 2016 #225
You've GOT to look down ticket! floppyboo Mar 2016 #227
Without Congress, neither Hillary or Bernie can get much done. kwassa Mar 2016 #233
With Congress, either Hillary or Bernie can get much done. "in the beginning was the word" floppyboo Mar 2016 #235
Good points, many already addressed though Rebkeh Mar 2016 #237
That thing y'all do where you call us naive? bravenak Mar 2016 #259
Funny, smart blog post. wildeyed Mar 2016 #241
Good read. Thanks for posting... SidDithers Mar 2016 #248
Ahhh, so this is why the MLK quotes are popping back up again. Number23 Mar 2016 #251
Actually my Martin Luther King thread came before this one. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #256
They can't stop bravenak Mar 2016 #258
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