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Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
43. "they have to have evidence that Clinton willfully committed a crime"
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 09:45 PM
Mar 2016

I don't think so.

Hillary signed a non disclosure agreement. In that agreement,
https://foia.state.gov/searchapp/DOCUMENTS/HRC_NDAS/1/DOC_0C05833708/C05833708.pdf
it made specific mention of various criminal clauses of the US Code that she was subject but not limited to - which proves she was aware of the applicable criminal laws, etc.

They also refer to EXECUTIVE ORDER 12958 -- April 17, 1995 signed by her husband, Bill. In there, it is using words like "any knowing, willful, or negligent action" so negligence in taking care of classified information is a violation that leads to "applicable laws" (cited in the non disclosure agreement).

Hillary's husband, Bill knows all about what happens to folks who store classified information at their house without authorization. It is a crime:
When Bill Clinton Pardoned His Former CIA Director over Classified Documents on His Home Computer

For Hillary to be innocent of that crime, she would have to convince the court that she knew as Secretary of State that she or those who used her server would never send or receive anything that was classified or could be classified after the fact and stored on her server between 2009 until recently when she turned her server over to the FBI. Given that many emails from foreign countries are "born classified", that's an absurd argument to attempt to make. So Hillary very arguably negligently exposed the security of classified information and illegally stored it at her home. Those are criminal acts.

Certainly, the illegal, unauthorized storage of classified material in her home is pretty much a slam dunk case. I can't imagine how she can refute it - just like Bill's own Director of the CIA couldn't refute it. It's a crime and he was convicted for it.

If you've followed this, part of the allegation is that they cut pieces of classified information and inserted that classified information into their emails. That's also against the law. They have depositions from Intelligence Community agents that information was classified at the time it was transmitted. That's against the criminal law - even if it is not marked classified.

And then we have the Clinton Foundation being subpoenaed for information about donors who contributed large amounts (ie $5+ million by Saudi Arabia and Boeing) who also got help from Hillary and the State Department. That has been widely reported by the media, smells real bad and nobody has very good answers yet.

The video is also right: the justice department doesn't cut an immunity deal with someone, if after months of looking at a situation, they don't think there are bigger fish to fry.

Further, the FBI (over a hundred agents), Intelligence Community agents and two inspector generals do not spend 9 months gawking at something if there is nothing to see.

Someone is going to get charged with something after all this time.

Hate to agree with a FOX Noise video but I think there's more right than wrong with what he says.

"Definitely worth watching" - I disagree. n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #1
okay, head in the sand I guess. grasswire Mar 2016 #2
From total right-wing hacks. I'll only trust impartial sources. Zynx Mar 2016 #7
what did he say that disagreed with you? nt grasswire Mar 2016 #5
Because the Republicans won't Matariki Mar 2016 #13
Why do you people keep paying attention to Mukasey, the Boston Herald, etc? Zynx Mar 2016 #3
More Bernie Sanders JanetLovesObama Mar 2016 #4
I heard him last week on another station and it sounded pretty disturbing. Vinca Mar 2016 #6
I don't think he put a negative spin on it today. grasswire Mar 2016 #9
almost nothing on thr goebles propaganda network is worth watching eom artyteacher Mar 2016 #8
Who would ever want to watch anything presented by Fox????? FarPoint Mar 2016 #10
Ya know what? grasswire Mar 2016 #11
Not a fan of Mukasey noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #12
^ This JRLeft Mar 2016 #14
Hillary supporter here: Grasswire's writeup sounds fair and straightforward. kstewart33 Mar 2016 #15
and Comey is a straight shooter. nt grasswire Mar 2016 #16
it makes sense to me, though... grasswire Mar 2016 #17
Grasswire, I don't think they will indict. kstewart33 Mar 2016 #18
if you watch the video.... grasswire Mar 2016 #38
"they have to have evidence that Clinton willfully committed a crime" Jarqui Mar 2016 #43
It's the email wherein she instructs her aide to remove the classified header and send through an AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #30
yes, precisely grasswire Mar 2016 #39
And then the not-quite-slam-dunk gets leaked in September. jeff47 Mar 2016 #19
Jeff, if the worst happens with Hillary, she will plea. nt kstewart33 Mar 2016 #20
Not anytime soon. jeff47 Mar 2016 #21
Jeff, you've been overdosing on the Bernie KoolAid. kstewart33 Mar 2016 #35
Uh...she loses the election on an a plea too. jeff47 Mar 2016 #37
Mchael Mukasey: Republican, US Attorney General during the Bush admin. DCBob Mar 2016 #22
Thank you for Gwhittey Mar 2016 #23
It will be over soon and the GOP will look like morons for attacking her on a fake scandal. DCBob Mar 2016 #24
Unless he is reading tea leaves correctly nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #27
Comey is a straight shooter. DCBob Mar 2016 #31
Yup, why if he has enough to indict nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #33
Hope so. nt kstewart33 Mar 2016 #36
omg kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #25
we're quoting fox news now? I tend to believe the exact opposite of what's on faux. MariaThinks Mar 2016 #26
I would love to believe this is not true. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #28
For supposed progressives vdogg Mar 2016 #29
ridiculous grasswire Mar 2016 #40
Washington Post examination and analysis of the 2,093 chains of Clinton’s email correspondence BlueStateLib Mar 2016 #32
The Revolution's response: aspirant Mar 2016 #34
one thing is sure grasswire Mar 2016 #41
OP is misleading vdogg Mar 2016 #42
of course the alternative to an indictment is no indictment. grasswire Mar 2016 #45
jury results on OP kindly provided. grasswire Mar 2016 #44
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