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azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
78. I'm asking proof that Bernie wants to raise incomes for WhiteMales® only
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 06:04 AM
Feb 2016

the rest is just repeating yourself

An interesting take. Links? ebayfool Feb 2016 #1
Most won't get it. I really know what you are saying...and so does Bernie. nt Jitter65 Feb 2016 #184
You should regret it. Wilms Feb 2016 #2
Or it will drive firms to automate jobs Recursion Feb 2016 #4
A minimum income has worked in places. Wilms Feb 2016 #5
Yeah, GWB caused insane damage to the economy. Recursion Feb 2016 #48
Which is something that absolutely none of them.... daleanime Feb 2016 #12
Of course they are. Higher labor costs make it more attractive thought (nt) Recursion Feb 2016 #47
So you'd like to lower the minimum wage? daleanime Feb 2016 #83
I'd like to remove the minimum wage and replace it with a minimum income Recursion Feb 2016 #84
So we two step over to... daleanime Feb 2016 #85
With a minimum income it doesn't matter. Recursion Feb 2016 #86
OK, let me wrap my sleep deprived brain around that.... daleanime Feb 2016 #87
Yes, that is exactly what I'm talking about Recursion Feb 2016 #88
I think I could get behind that. Could make it a hell of a lot harder for discrimination to happen. Bubzer Feb 2016 #140
........ daleanime Feb 2016 #151
Unless the ptb intend to kill off most of earths population katsy Feb 2016 #153
+1 uponit7771 Feb 2016 #64
... think Feb 2016 #3
Yep Recursion Feb 2016 #6
for that matter white males' wages and incomes have gone down, while everyone else's have gone up think Feb 2016 #9
and what is your point? azurnoir Feb 2016 #60
And you missed this one. On edit, make that, two. Wilms Feb 2016 #7
I didn't "miss" it. Look at how much black income rose under Bill Clinton Recursion Feb 2016 #8
Look at how much CEO pay escalated under Bill Clinton compared to their average workers of all races Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #11
Who cares? Recursion Feb 2016 #13
Obviously you don't, "look at the big picture" how much black wealth was lost due to Clinton's Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #16
Glass Steagel had little to do with unrestricted commodities!!! Its like blaming drunk driver deaths uponit7771 Feb 2016 #65
The diminishing of and eventual removal of Glass Steagall legalized drinking while driving. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #134
OK, that's pretty close... but the CFMA legalized being DRUNK while driving because it took off uponit7771 Feb 2016 #135
So does Bernie, he wants to break up the monopolized banks which have become even larger and thus Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #141
The "Big Banks" weren't involved, they stood by and said little but it wasn't BOA it was GS uponit7771 Feb 2016 #142
The diminishing and removal of Glass Steagall was a multiplier of the crisis which wiped out a Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #146
CFMA allowed for unlimited leveraging, they didn't need Steagal to do that.. CFMA had worse effect uponit7771 Feb 2016 #149
Actually you have to go back prior to Clinton JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #76
^^ That Recursion Feb 2016 #89
Thank you!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #97
!!!! Arazi Feb 2016 #124
+1 Well said. n/t FSogol Feb 2016 #129
What you posted has nothing to do with the positive sound effect of Glass Steagall Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #136
I agree on Glass Steagall JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #143
I don't disagree with what you posted but Bill Clinton's promotion of both Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #147
Amen and Amen!!! uponit7771 Feb 2016 #138
Great post, JAG. greatauntoftriplets Feb 2016 #145
Thanks JAG rbrnmw Feb 2016 #150
+lots great white snark Feb 2016 #160
you really need to write a book JI7 Feb 2016 #161
Thank you for this! Raine1967 Feb 2016 #180
Isn't it necessary to look at a particular demographic's income relative to other incomes LanternWaste Feb 2016 #144
and this EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #72
that affects the average over all treestar Feb 2016 #94
Let me ask. Wilms Feb 2016 #14
Can you comment on why noamnety Feb 2016 #101
Huh.? CentralMass Feb 2016 #10
Sorry, can you point me to where I said it had? Recursion Feb 2016 #15
The graphs from the article that I posted the link to don't show the CentralMass Feb 2016 #41
Yeah they do Recursion Feb 2016 #43
You are not showing white incomes. CentralMass Feb 2016 #49
Yeah, funny that: I'm talking about *BLACK* incomes Recursion Feb 2016 #50
Ya funny the title of your post says Black Incomes started to rise and White incomes fell CentralMass Feb 2016 #59
That is simply not true. Nearly everybody in the lower and middle classes is poorer today. Live and Learn Feb 2016 #17
Almost nobody is poorer today Recursion Feb 2016 #18
In buying power? Hardly. Perhpas you could point us to where you are getting your false stats. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #21
Yes, "In buying power" is what "real" means (nt) Recursion Feb 2016 #24
So no to the stats then? nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #25
Posted upthread, by people who claim to disagree with me (nt) Recursion Feb 2016 #26
None of those prove your point at all. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #28
Sure they do. Recursion Feb 2016 #29
Just saying something is true doesn't make it true. The stats speak the truth. Live and Learn Feb 2016 #30
The key term is 'over the last 40 years'. As long as it's framed over 40 years he is correct think Feb 2016 #36
I addressed that part of it below. The fact is that he is trying to give false impressions of the Live and Learn Feb 2016 #38
Agree think Feb 2016 #39
You might want to go correct these guys nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #167
Why do this? Everyone's wages have stagnated. Nice can of gasoline you have there... myrna minx Feb 2016 #19
It is absolutely not true that "everyone's" wages and incomes have stagnated in the past 40 years Recursion Feb 2016 #20
Nah - it's clear what you're trying to do - I'm not going to play along. myrna minx Feb 2016 #23
Post links or else this is nothing more than speculation on your part. n/t Stand and Fight Feb 2016 #22
Oh, I get it now, you are in India. Live and Learn Feb 2016 #27
Yeah, I'm stationed here Recursion Feb 2016 #34
How did I attempt to malign it? It was a simple observation made and one that might explain your Live and Learn Feb 2016 #35
What fucking "assumptions" do you think I have picked up over the past 2 years? Recursion Feb 2016 #37
Simply what you stated, that minority and women's wages are increasing and white mens are decreasing Live and Learn Feb 2016 #40
Those aren't assumptions, those are facts, and I knew them before I went here Recursion Feb 2016 #42
Do you know what insinuation means? Because your post is guilty of insinuating falsehoods. Live and Learn Feb 2016 #44
So, let's circle back: Recursion Feb 2016 #46
You didn't provide data. Why not just go back to the 1920's, then? Live and Learn Feb 2016 #51
Because we're talking about the 1970s onward. Recursion Feb 2016 #52
Well then, your OP is simply silly and irrelevant to anything in GDP. How does this reflect on the Live and Learn Feb 2016 #54
The past ten years are not reflective of your overall assessment think Feb 2016 #58
Why? Recursion Feb 2016 #70
Wages & income equality have fallen for minorities in the past ten years. Do you dispute that? think Feb 2016 #81
This is the result of your going ad hominem rather that sticking to the issue treestar Feb 2016 #93
I love the modern DU. Catch a jury of the "right" people and you can say fuck you to anyone CBGLuthier Feb 2016 #100
Not buying it. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #31
Interesting how none of those things contradict my point Recursion Feb 2016 #33
Only a 25% gain in real wages, and still far behind men. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #53
Of course the 70's were better for minorities thanks to the 60's civil rights movements and Live and Learn Feb 2016 #32
one of the reasons for Clintons popularity among minorities JI7 Feb 2016 #45
Because Hillary had anything to do with it? Please! nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #56
White people's incomes have not fallen. Black people have not closed the wage gap, it has increased. DemocraticWing Feb 2016 #55
White *males'* incomes have fallen Recursion Feb 2016 #57
who's running a campaign based on raising the income of WhiteMales® only? azurnoir Feb 2016 #63
The person who associates his campaign with someone who calls Obama "n-word-izzed"? tia uponit7771 Feb 2016 #66
this guy? azurnoir Feb 2016 #69
Yes, but I don't know about spelling out the word... I don't know if its against TOS uponit7771 Feb 2016 #139
well I intended no offense but I did want to put the entire comment in which he used the word azurnoir Feb 2016 #158
were you offended West's words that Obama had not done enough for the Black community? azurnoir Feb 2016 #163
Yes, its more unfair bashing of Obama to gen favor among the establishment and that's how Sanders uponit7771 Feb 2016 #164
saying that Obama hasn't done enough for the Black community will gain favor with the establishment? azurnoir Feb 2016 #166
Cause among the marginalized it sounds like West is full of crap, he's not saying that in front uponit7771 Feb 2016 #168
so you feel that Obama has done enough for the Black community and already had at the time of Wests azurnoir Feb 2016 #169
Yes, I sure do.. being president and being an upstanding moral person that has done more to break uponit7771 Feb 2016 #170
West was about institutionalized racism and despite all the words I've seen here about that azurnoir Feb 2016 #171
Strawman, ... your question was has Obama done enough I said sure... I don't see how uponit7771 Feb 2016 #174
my question concerned Wests comments which pertained to institutionalized racism azurnoir Feb 2016 #175
West called Obama "n-word-izzed" because he said Obama was afraid to talk about White Supremcy uponit7771 Feb 2016 #181
"N*****ized is absolutely the wrong word to use forjusticethunders Feb 2016 #176
YouGov black millenials are strong HRC uponit7771 Feb 2016 #182
I'll give you a hint: your avatar photo (nt) Recursion Feb 2016 #67
aha so Bernie only wants to raise the incomes of WhiteMales® I see azurnoir Feb 2016 #68
Can I get some punctuation? Recursion Feb 2016 #74
I'm asking proof that Bernie wants to raise incomes for WhiteMales® only azurnoir Feb 2016 #78
The fact that everyone else's incomes are already rising (nt). Recursion Feb 2016 #79
so no links, just theory - got it azurnoir Feb 2016 #80
Yep...that's the only conclusion one can reach noiretextatique Feb 2016 #178
Bingo...this is all about that berniebros bs noiretextatique Feb 2016 #177
Yah, I knew he was a secret progressive white supremacist. delrem Feb 2016 #61
aha or azurnoir Feb 2016 #71
It's an interesting claim, though I wouldn't go that far Recursion Feb 2016 #73
. merrily Feb 2016 #62
Ignoring reality .... TheFarS1de Feb 2016 #75
Why would it be across the board? Recursion Feb 2016 #77
Because that's the follow on from $15 minimum wage. kristopher Feb 2016 #154
it about wealth inequality tk2kewl Feb 2016 #82
The past three decades have seen the largest decreases in global inequality in human history Recursion Feb 2016 #92
Not even a bad thing as that means more equality treestar Feb 2016 #90
Right? (nt) Recursion Feb 2016 #91
You apparently ton't get correcting for inflation eridani Feb 2016 #95
Nope; they rose from 94 to 00, and still haven't hit the pre-94 lows (nt) Recursion Feb 2016 #115
Ans what happend to rents and food? n/t eridani Feb 2016 #183
By definition they stayed the same since this is real (inflation-adjusted) income Recursion Feb 2016 #185
My expenses have gone up way faster than my income for 20 years n/t eridani Feb 2016 #186
Then you're unlike the majority of Americans in that respect (nt) Recursion Feb 2016 #187
You should regret posting this swill Armstead Feb 2016 #96
A Decade of Flat Wages: The Key Barrier to Shared Prosperity and a Rising Middle Class Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #98
Thank, that's a good read. nt kristopher Feb 2016 #155
Is this why Bernie is strongest in 98% white states? workinclasszero Feb 2016 #99
Pretty much Recursion Feb 2016 #105
Sounds logical to me workinclasszero Feb 2016 #107
yes let's knock down EVERYONE rather than bring EVERYONE up Armstead Feb 2016 #114
No, you forgot something.... 98 percent white MALE states... Armstead Feb 2016 #113
I don't know of a 98% white male state in the US Recursion Feb 2016 #118
I am referring to how nonsensical the 98 percent white and male discontent are conflated Armstead Feb 2016 #120
You may be in the wrong thread? I certainly don't think "only white males" support Sanders Recursion Feb 2016 #122
No this.... Armstead Feb 2016 #123
There certainly are women and minorities who support Sanders Recursion Feb 2016 #125
Okay...but I do think you're misreading motives Armstead Feb 2016 #126
So to whittle that down JackInGreen Feb 2016 #102
That's a simplistic but pretty straightforward summary, yes (nt) Recursion Feb 2016 #108
so tell us do you have to post this kind of stuff 7 more times to be fully vested? azurnoir Feb 2016 #109
Ummm sure Recursion Feb 2016 #112
well the thread seems pretty imagination based so I figured what the heck azurnoir Feb 2016 #119
Thanks JackInGreen Feb 2016 #110
I do think so, though I think most don't realize that is the actual outcome they are cheering for Recursion Feb 2016 #111
What would you do as an alternative JackInGreen Feb 2016 #130
A guaranteed minimum income Recursion Feb 2016 #131
Fair enough JackInGreen Feb 2016 #132
Steaming load AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #103
Seems to me that white males are overrepresented in the "1%". Their wages/salaries have skyrocketed. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #104
Mom working, dad working, kids working, still not making as much as one person did 30 years ago Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #106
women and minorities were off the official economy back then. Recursion Feb 2016 #121
That's why I'm a socialist. Capitalism forces workers to compete for survival. Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #133
Exactly. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #127
Rocket science: The typical white household is almost 13 times richer than the typical black family. Octafish Feb 2016 #116
Yep. And yet it's still *white* families that feel the most insecure (nt) Recursion Feb 2016 #117
bullshit. I am a woman. I still make less than a man. Give me my whole damn dollar. Hiraeth Feb 2016 #128
Maybe we should be lowering the retirement age Paulie Feb 2016 #137
I'd go for that workinclasszero Feb 2016 #148
this is the worst tread i have ever read. Csainvestor Feb 2016 #152
Not true at all. Latinos and African Americans azmom Feb 2016 #156
How do these wages compare to economic bubbles? sadoldgirl Feb 2016 #157
Except nobody is really making what they should be. cyberswede Feb 2016 #159
Good post! workinclasszero Feb 2016 #162
Nope, you are wrong nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #165
You're actually using right-wing talking points, ironically. forjusticethunders Feb 2016 #172
I wish I could recommend this post nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #173
I wonder if his stats include the compensation noiretextatique Feb 2016 #179
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