2016 Postmortem

Starry Messenger

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114. AA and Latinos poll higher than whites in approval of socialism and disapproval of capitalism

Sat Feb 20, 2016, 08:14 PM

Feb 2016

http://www.people-press.org/2011/12/28/little-change-in-publics-response-to-capitalism-socialism/?src=prc-headline

I think it has more to do with Sanders than socialism.

Sanders' has stated that his approach is to bring back the New Deal coalition (white working class.) That coalition broke up with itself over civil rights though, I think this election will be the final break up with the left's old love affair with bringing that back as a path to victory.

Any socialist looking for gains is going to have to reach deeply into the population that approves of it more highly and find out together what we can build in the future.

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I wonder if the Black vote was what sealed the deal [View all] bravenak Feb 2016 OP

It will be interesting to see the breakdown mcar Feb 2016 #1

Yep bravenak Feb 2016 #8

Enjoy your imperfect relationship! TCJ70 Feb 2016 #2

That is one truly fucked-up thing to say. Codeine Feb 2016 #3

Just reinforces why AAs don't care for Sanders... woolldog Feb 2016 #6

Don't say that, because a lot of us do. JRLeft Feb 2016 #16

and heaven05 Feb 2016 #153

And a lot of us won't show up in the GE for her. (I will it be my last gift to democratic party) JRLeft Feb 2016 #155

don't heaven05 Feb 2016 #162

I said I will vote for her. That went over your head for some reason. JRLeft Feb 2016 #164

yep heaven05 Feb 2016 #165

You too, don't take my dislike of Hillary as a swipe at you it's not. JRLeft Feb 2016 #167

I'm not heaven05 Feb 2016 #170

Both parties are corrupt to the core that is people are leaving both parties in droves. JRLeft Feb 2016 #171

true heaven05 Feb 2016 #172

We may have to start another party, the democratic party not be JRLeft Feb 2016 #173

THIS Black cares for Sanders. What do you say about me? johnlucas Feb 2016 #41

Sanders is a fraud. woolldog Feb 2016 #46

So, the fraud is someone who even with debts refuses to take "gifts" (BRIBES!) to speak for them?... cascadiance Feb 2016 #70

He's an irresponsible spendthrift in his personal life woolldog Feb 2016 #72

He never got $156,000,000 in speaking fees from corrupt, nation-wrecking institutions. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #90

Well, if he had just ONE Goldman Sachs speech fee payment he'd then be rich... cascadiance Feb 2016 #91

I trust him more than I trust someone that says she'll never lie to the American nc4bo Feb 2016 #71

Do your research brother. You're wrong. johnlucas Feb 2016 #79

Congratulations whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #87

woolldog, 2 O's, 2 L's. Got it. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2016 #89

and? woolldog Feb 2016 #93

What a stupid post. Was that some kind of threat Number23 Feb 2016 #138

I'm he's implying that the homie is taking 2 l's aka loses. JRLeft Feb 2016 #157

His Net Worth is Reported to be 500K+ cureautismnow Feb 2016 #97

What's with the Soviet Hillary icon? nt TheBlackAdder Feb 2016 #194

I think it look cool. nt woolldog Feb 2016 #195

I like Sanders. I can't stand his arrogant, rude, and often racist supporters. They're no better Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #146

that is counterproductive heaven05 Feb 2016 #156

Whatever you think. I do what I want when I want. I don't need to be lectured to. My primary Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #159

NO heaven05 Feb 2016 #163

Hillary supporters have the same issues, she had plenty of racists on her side. JRLeft Feb 2016 #158

And you know I've spoken on that repeatedly, ad nauseum. Frankly I'm tired of talking about HRC Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #160

Hillary will be the nominee that's a given. I will support her in the GE, and then JRLeft Feb 2016 #161

I was a Green for many years. I'm one of those Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #176

Results... Major Nikon Feb 2016 #175

Thanks. With all due respect, we've been discussing Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #177

It's a big party with a big tent. You're gonna see some fools in it. Look at the big picture johnlucas Feb 2016 #179

I appreciate this in fairness. Thank you. Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #180

No problem, my brother. It's all about respect. johnlucas Feb 2016 #181

I'm very much a girl. :) Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #189

I apologize, my sister. I made a hasty assumption based on your profile pic johnlucas Feb 2016 #190

No worries! Ironically, Trayvon Martin's parents are supporting HRC. However, I've had this avatar Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #191

They just don't know her background well enough. They're simply committed to getting a Dem Prez johnlucas Feb 2016 #192

I actually agree with you in general. They may or may not know everything about the two candidates. Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #193

Anecdotal!? uponit7771 Feb 2016 #184

Nah. I wouldn't say that. There's a lot like me out here. johnlucas Feb 2016 #185

Some do and some don't. wildeyed Feb 2016 #47

I am an AA who leaned towards Bernie. Nedsdag Feb 2016 #104

Why? TCJ70 Feb 2016 #9

Black unemployment back to where it was ubder Bill? I'LL TAKE IT!! bravenak Feb 2016 #4

You like 42%? They don't count the incarcerated. cureautismnow Feb 2016 #107

Oh please with the propaganda bravenak Feb 2016 #112

Is it Propaganda when it comes from her own mouth? cureautismnow Feb 2016 #117

You think i dont know this? bravenak Feb 2016 #119

Not exactly radical noodle Feb 2016 #113

Bill apologized later for the effect of this law cureautismnow Feb 2016 #127

worthless apology heaven05 Feb 2016 #168

There's no reason for you to deride bravenak's OP. MerryBlooms Feb 2016 #19

The results are in: Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #23

Woah... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #28

And survived! Woot! Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #37

What is it JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #120

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #56

Every vote counts. FarPoint Feb 2016 #5

Me too. I'm proud of them bravenak Feb 2016 #10

I think if not sealed, but certainly had to play a major role. MerryBlooms Feb 2016 #7

Me too I was surprised at the turnout bravenak Feb 2016 #12

Yes, indeedy! MerryBlooms Feb 2016 #24

In my precinct, along with two others: brush Feb 2016 #11

Oh boy!!! bravenak Feb 2016 #15

It certainly was a big help KingFlorez Feb 2016 #13

Yeap!! bravenak Feb 2016 #21

According to MSNBC's Steve Kornacki the Latino vote was supposed to oasis Feb 2016 #14

I was shocked at the projected latino numbers bravenak Feb 2016 #17

Hill said in the recent town hall she wanted an early nomination so oasis Feb 2016 #31

Oh good I am THRILLED! bravenak Feb 2016 #33

"get started on her proposals"? I thought she already had them. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #130

Implementation. oasis Feb 2016 #132

She can implement things without BEING president? Ken Burch Feb 2016 #134

She and Bill can line up her potential cabinet etc. oasis Feb 2016 #135

She couldn't have done that in the first place? Ken Burch Feb 2016 #137

Hill had no hard plans on running in 2016. She likely oasis Feb 2016 #144

He should give Bernie supporters some time, a lot of them hate her. JRLeft Feb 2016 #20

From now until November with Ted Cruz and the SCOTUS as oasis Feb 2016 #39

Wait... I thought that the Latino vote went in Sanders' favor?? Number23 Feb 2016 #128

DU polls are unreliable. Especially the polls made up of DU membership. oasis Feb 2016 #129

No, I mean that stories have been posted over and over that say that Sanders won the Number23 Feb 2016 #131

It may have had something to do with Harry Reid getting on oasis Feb 2016 #133

I think the Black vote will win her a lot ismnotwasm Feb 2016 #18

I see AA precincts went heavily hillary bravenak Feb 2016 #27

And I am in no way surprised by this. ismnotwasm Feb 2016 #36

Me too. I'm right there with you bravenak Feb 2016 #40

MSNBC states Bernies support strength was rural white. nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #22

Not really surprising bravenak Feb 2016 #25

Please explain to me why Clinton is better than Sanders malletgirl02 Feb 2016 #26

I cannot explain bravenak Feb 2016 #29

If you want me to vote Clinton you need to explain. malletgirl02 Feb 2016 #32

I do not care who you vote for tho bravenak Feb 2016 #38

No you just would rather vote for someone who's been saying "No We Can't" when asked to do change! cascadiance Feb 2016 #78

I dont read lectures bravenak Feb 2016 #80

No one's asking you to. cascadiance Feb 2016 #82

His lack of skills at community organizing and building a diverse coalition bravenak Feb 2016 #85

Well if many like you are just trying to spread hate towards him then that doesn't help does it! cascadiance Feb 2016 #95

There have been plenty of discussions in DU radical noodle Feb 2016 #110

I am just giving the gifts that are given to me bravenak Feb 2016 #111

Vote. Its been and still is a struggle to vote, more so for POC. Iliyah Feb 2016 #63

they have better connections in the black community JI7 Feb 2016 #35

Policies malletgirl02 Feb 2016 #42

policies are about the same. especially when you consider what they can do JI7 Feb 2016 #48

I'll tell you..... FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #62

the Clintons know they need the black community more than JI7 Feb 2016 #30

The need to keep that thought at the front of their minds bravenak Feb 2016 #45

yeah. although that had more to do with love for Obama JI7 Feb 2016 #60

I think she is way better than bill bravenak Feb 2016 #64

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #34

Yep...so fast it'll make your head spin. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #43

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #49

Agreed. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #61

Neither will he,lol bravenak Feb 2016 #44

Second time someone inferred we won't get what we expect JustAnotherGen Feb 2016 #124

Exactly bravenak Feb 2016 #125

No citation but tweets I read... Rose Siding Feb 2016 #50

Whooooooo!!!! bravenak Feb 2016 #51

This is WAY better isn't it??!!!! Rose Siding Feb 2016 #53

YES bravenak Feb 2016 #58

I can't quite... Rose Siding Feb 2016 #74

I am trying so hard to leave but I keep giggling and looking at more posts and... bravenak Feb 2016 #75

ok but this! Rose Siding Feb 2016 #83

DAMN!!!! bravenak Feb 2016 #84

OMG rbrnmw Feb 2016 #98

Pulled this off the tweeter earlier today. wildeyed Feb 2016 #52

This is nice bravenak Feb 2016 #54

Better than Iowa! wildeyed Feb 2016 #59

Oh god, me too bravenak Feb 2016 #65

Updated: Clinton had MASSIVE lead among black voters. wildeyed Feb 2016 #69

OMG!! bravenak Feb 2016 #73

I think Hispanics and black votes. See what happens in more diverse states? Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #55

Yep bravenak Feb 2016 #57

The Koch brothers are smiling at your comments and feel like they've won their drive to olgarchy! cascadiance Feb 2016 #96

Ditto Iliyah Feb 2016 #66

+1 treestar Feb 2016 #86

According to Kornacki, blacks to Clinton, Hispanics to Sanders. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #101

Entrance Poll noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 #103

The exit polls may have been wrong. It appears that Clinton won the Hispanic vote there as well Number23 Feb 2016 #140

That's a pretty stark discrepancy with the entrance polls. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #143

He didn't win Hispanics last night. He started off doing very well earlier on in the day. Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #145

Yeah, I've seen some very disparate claims since then. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #147

I don't think we'll know because it's difficult to analyze Latino turnout and actual levels of Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #148

She certainly should have. I was quite dubious about the polls saying he'd tied her going into NV Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #149

If so, then congratulations on your vote to promote a LOWER raise in the minimum wage! cascadiance Feb 2016 #67

She via her surrogates lied about that too. There were campaign pamphlets in NV promoting nc4bo Feb 2016 #76

We tied our to the inflation rate ip here so get on your states to do the same bravenak Feb 2016 #77

According to 538 it is vdogg Feb 2016 #68

Its getting real!!! bravenak Feb 2016 #81

I'm good with that! FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #88

I'm gonna ask a blunt question here. DemocraticWing Feb 2016 #92

I think your error may be in assuming AA voters are voting against Sanders. Codeine Feb 2016 #102

Well I asked a question about socialism. DemocraticWing Feb 2016 #105

I think it could be quite different. Codeine Feb 2016 #109

What?! Hillary Clinton's skin is white... she has the same "limitations" he does... uponit7771 Feb 2016 #186

AA and Latinos poll higher than whites in approval of socialism and disapproval of capitalism Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #114

You make a good point forjusticethunders Feb 2016 #150

no. there is racism against blacks in Cuba JI7 Feb 2016 #115

This message was self-deleted by its author Chitown Kev Feb 2016 #94

It looks like, yes. According to entrance polls Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #99

I figured it would happen like this bravenak Feb 2016 #121

76-22 firebrand80 Feb 2016 #100

I guess that talk of firewall is real bravenak Feb 2016 #126

Harry Reid sealed the deal Armstead Feb 2016 #106

. bravenak Feb 2016 #122

Nevada? Maybe. But... zappaman Feb 2016 #108

Sweden's system wont work here bravenak Feb 2016 #116

Sealed the deal whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #118

. bravenak Feb 2016 #123

Bravenak, by every account, blacks and Hispanics delivered Nevada to Clinton Number23 Feb 2016 #136

I KNEW something was off!! bravenak Feb 2016 #139

"I used to think it was issues that drove Bernie; now I think it is his rage." Number23 Feb 2016 #141

Perfect quote. Thats how I see him too. bravenak Feb 2016 #142

Once I started reading his press releases wildeyed Feb 2016 #151

Thank you!!! bravenak Feb 2016 #152

Same here. Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #169

20% !? really nice uponit7771 Feb 2016 #187

According to the census data, Black or African American alone, percent, 2014 (a) 9.1% Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #154

Based on the entrance poll, 19% of voters were Latino, 13% African American, BUT onenote Feb 2016 #166

Yes. wildeyed Feb 2016 #174

This message was self-deleted by its author Marr Feb 2016 #178

Girl... YOU ... ARE.... BAD...heh heh... sigh... I'mma sit back and just read the post come SC uponit7771 Feb 2016 #182

I need to keep a low pro until then after today bravenak Feb 2016 #183

+1 uponit7771 Feb 2016 #188