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2016 Postmortem

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islandmkl

(5,275 posts)
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 05:18 PM Feb 2016

Bernie reminds Third Way/DNC/old-DLC folks that they aren't real Democrats any more... [View all]

and they don't like it.

The phenomenon of Bernie's run so far is not an insurgency against the established power structure of the Democratic Party which has guided the Party farther right, moving away from the center and as far from the left as it could manage...

it is an AWAKENING of the traditional base of the Democratic Party, the liberal progressive base that has been triangulated out of both power and effectiveness since 1988. The strangulation of fundamental ideals, the replacing of broad-based social program involvement with corporate relationships, the pursuit of money to fuel more money-gathering, the lack of support for progressive Party candidates to the point of supporting (actively) Republican candidates, the attempt to minimize broad participation in the Party to strengthen the TW/DNC hold on the direction of the party while weakening the access of a great deal of the base to the corridors of Party leadership, and on and on...

It was a massive move to the right, pushing even the Republicans rightward with its pressure...and now it has pushed too far...the Party has outrun its true base and finds itself defending what 30 years ago would have been conservative Republican positions, running candidates mirroring RW candidates of that era, losing elections because Americans don't want to choose between two Republicans (one an R and one a D) when they can just as easily choose the real deal.

There is a lot of pent-up frustration within the Party that the leaders have ignored...and could afford to ignore as long as nothing changed and nobody rocked the boat. Well...somebody stood up in the boat...somebody who rowed along with all the Democrats for over 25 years and finally saw that he would try to turn the boat around...

Bernie may not have registered as a Democrat until lately...I submit that you will have to search far and wide to find a better Democrat today...any criticism Bernie has directed at Party leadership (BHO included) is based on principles that he knows the Party is both moving away from and compromising...

Those hung up on 'when' are either too removed from the pulse of a great deal of the Party...or were not around when it was the DEMOCRATIC PARTY of FDR, TRUMAN, JFK, RFK, even LBJ, Carter....and to attack his criticism of certain aspects of Democratic leadership as a 'problem' is to be in the greatest form of denial...denying that the leadership has taken the Party astray, followed principles of money and power and left that great mass of people that built it behind, that the 'new' Party is not Democratic at all...and that there are those who believe in the Democratic Party, more than they believe in Bernie Sanders, and what it has historically stood for (and against) and want to put THAT Democratic Party back together...
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Big K&R! MelissaB Feb 2016 #1
BUT, Bernie is definitely more of a Democrat than the Democrats. PatrickforO Feb 2016 #2
ROCK ON! Rockyj Feb 2016 #61
Yes we are. 840high Feb 2016 #95
Funny LeFleur1 Feb 2016 #99
NEW DEM = OLD GOP Vincardog Feb 2016 #3
^^^^ This. ^^^^ nt bunnies Feb 2016 #55
Pretty Much. It's what Goldwater girls became after the radicals took over the GOP. eom Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #64
Writ large. The DLC ate its host. nt MaeScott Feb 2016 #65
great post! tk2kewl Feb 2016 #4
That is known as blaming the opposition for what you yourself are doing -none Feb 2016 #87
K&R kristopher Feb 2016 #5
Huge K &R. grntuscarora Feb 2016 #6
Excellent Post..Hillary and her friends don't get it.... tokenlib Feb 2016 #7
Her friends get it alright, that's why they are so uptight. Soon, they will be pushing litlbilly Feb 2016 #10
That's funny....:) tokenlib Feb 2016 #20
I think they get it now...they're panicking. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #32
K&R Kittycat Feb 2016 #8
Kick ana DURec. bvar22 Feb 2016 #9
K & R AzDar Feb 2016 #11
Voting for Bernie is not only a vote against Hillary but the entire "Third Way" Establishment johnlucas Feb 2016 #12
+1000 LiberalLovinLug Feb 2016 #24
I dig that signature pic of the B pulling the H to the Left johnlucas Feb 2016 #33
thanks LiberalLovinLug Feb 2016 #63
I didn't even think of that. The colors! Of course! SMART! johnlucas Feb 2016 #78
This is so good. Nice job. Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #38
Great post! wezl Feb 2016 #94
Thank you, Johnlucas McKim Feb 2016 #96
A Gargantuan K & R ! democrank Feb 2016 #13
K & R! TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #14
Kinda odd that 1988 is when politics in my brain as a 12-13 yr old perked my ears PatrynXX Feb 2016 #15
This is it ornotna Feb 2016 #16
It was Hillary's husband that was part and partial to moving the Dem.Party to the right. DLC ? YOHABLO Feb 2016 #17
They want the Democratic Party to be a Center-Right party enigmatic Feb 2016 #18
Money corrupts everything. Everything. nt MaeScott Feb 2016 #67
He's the "Great Restoration" zentrum Feb 2016 #19
I like that, "Great Restoration" me b zola Feb 2016 #34
Thought of it earlier today zentrum Feb 2016 #37
+1. appalachiablue Feb 2016 #100
True That nfm Billsmile Feb 2016 #21
Bernie is reenergizing the Democratic party. Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #22
The problem as I see it is that we must get the young, enthused progressives involved rhett o rick Feb 2016 #85
This is the first real threat they have faced in decades..... Bonhomme Richard Feb 2016 #23
Well Said elljay Feb 2016 #25
K&R Thank for posting Mbrow Feb 2016 #26
74 years old and raised on FDR politics. I want my party jwirr Feb 2016 #27
i grew up in a small Kansas town with a father who was a Dem worker bee... islandmkl Feb 2016 #28
So true! ananda Feb 2016 #29
They never were, only in their minds Fearless Feb 2016 #30
"and they don't like it" Jack Rabbit Feb 2016 #31
about RepublicanLite...you forgot ™ islandmkl Feb 2016 #39
thanks to everyone for the rec's...much appreciated islandmkl Feb 2016 #35
great OP amborin Feb 2016 #58
The hostile takeover of the Democratic party's "brand name" has finally been beaten back! mhatrw Feb 2016 #36
Spent decades spreading that moolah.... MaeScott Feb 2016 #66
Excellent Post! Well Said! 2banon Feb 2016 #40
Someone who's not a Democrat but uses what he never helped build Gman Feb 2016 #41
Bill Clinton School of IS? I need a translation, no criticism intended... islandmkl Feb 2016 #42
That is convoluted Gman Feb 2016 #43
i would imagine you can match his 'voting with Democrats' record with about any Dem islandmkl Feb 2016 #45
Agree - some are getting carried away....... kerry-is-my-prez Feb 2016 #62
Hillary has raised $32 million dollars for DNC v $0 from Senator Sanders. wyldwolf Feb 2016 #44
that's pretty funny...you mean this: islandmkl Feb 2016 #46
No, I mean this wyldwolf Feb 2016 #47
who has received the money? islandmkl Feb 2016 #48
It's for general election campaigns, not primaries wyldwolf Feb 2016 #49
apparently you don't know how the money works...let me rephrase the question: islandmkl Feb 2016 #50
Apparently you don't know how campaign financing works wyldwolf Feb 2016 #54
you might want to read what the fund-raising effort was all about... islandmkl Feb 2016 #56
I have wyldwolf Feb 2016 #57
Based on what? PeterGM Feb 2016 #69
I doubt that any 'new' Dems would want to explain the coattails, or lack thereof, islandmkl Feb 2016 #90
And Sanders is a "real Democrat"? George II Feb 2016 #51
how's his voting record? what is your measure? that "D" behind his name (or not)? islandmkl Feb 2016 #52
For coporate immunity and mass incarceration of blacks and Wall Street dergulation... uponit7771 Feb 2016 #59
Of course you don't. Your apparent vision of a "real Democrat" is someone that takes millions from rhett o rick Feb 2016 #86
DLC noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 #53
he may have been twisted, but he wasn't crazy..HST's simple take on politicians: islandmkl Feb 2016 #60
There's no nice way to say this The Wizard Feb 2016 #68
Bernie is a real Democrat! Lunabell Feb 2016 #70
Lest we forget Bangbangdem Feb 2016 #71
That ended with Raygun... freebrew Feb 2016 #79
K&R The ever rightward shift isn't a bug, its a feature. raouldukelives Feb 2016 #72
I've been a Democrat for over 40 years Boomer Feb 2016 #73
KICKING LiberalElite Feb 2016 #74
Kick! nt LiberalElite Feb 2016 #75
Bernie reminds us that Hope and Change have to be supported by actual plans Tarc Feb 2016 #76
lol LWolf Feb 2016 #81
Bernie is the only reason I haven't quit the party... mak3cats Feb 2016 #77
Future of Democratic Party and future of Democracy in US depends on Bernie victory kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #80
Bernie is a party crasher. if he had any regard for FDR,Truman, RFK, LBJ he would have registered.. dubyadiprecession Feb 2016 #82
K&R quantass Feb 2016 #83
Your words are precisely how i feel. Nicely said nt quantass Feb 2016 #84
K and R. nt mariawr Feb 2016 #88
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #89
Bernie is giving the Democratic Party EVERY chance to redeem & renew itself ... 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #91
a battle for the heart and soul of the Democratic Party SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #92
K&R! valerief Feb 2016 #93
Hey Mr. Dubya-Dip . . FairWinds Feb 2016 #97
The DWS DNC DLC Third Way Establishment Fears It Will Lose Power - Plain And Simple cantbeserious Feb 2016 #98
Maybe it isn't true, it would be more moderates than far left, Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #101
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