2016 Postmortem

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75. None of us will ever know (nt)

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Reality Check for Democrats: Would Martin Luther King Be Supporting Bernie? [View all] Octafish Feb 2016 OP

This again? bravenak Feb 2016 #1

Yeah. What's wrong with ''This''? Octafish Feb 2016 #3

LOL bravenak Feb 2016 #5

Only black people can talk about Dr. King? Octafish Feb 2016 #9

Oh no! bravenak Feb 2016 #12

So, what makes Hillary more "Black"? She doesn't lecture at all, does she? HRC never dissed Obama? leveymg Feb 2016 #15

She likes us bravenak Feb 2016 #22

Weird, but ok hueymahl Feb 2016 #33

I call B.S., Her divisive posture on Obama, MLK, Jessie Jackson, Rev. Wright, will slowly reveal TheBlackAdder Feb 2016 #34

Thanks for this post. I'm with you 100% on this. LongTomH Feb 2016 #164

She likes you? You mean her image likes you. jalan48 Feb 2016 #42

Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #50

So you, Brave in AK, like to be liked. That's some fiercely independent spirit right there! thereismore Feb 2016 #53

Everybody likes to be liked bravenak Feb 2016 #55

Weak sauce. I remember Sen. Byrd. He changed. People change. Maybe Hillary did she does not thereismore Feb 2016 #59

She is not as bad as then bravenak Feb 2016 #60

You are a very forgiving person. To her. nt thereismore Feb 2016 #61

She took her lumps bravenak Feb 2016 #71

So one of them was white, but Hillary specifically singled out black kids to be super-predators. thereismore Feb 2016 #92

She would have called him one too bravenak Feb 2016 #100

I think that mean that you know she is a racist and you are OK with it because thereismore Feb 2016 #106

Peace. bravenak Feb 2016 #124

You get it AlbertCat Feb 2016 #99

I'm eating grits right now with butter and bacon grease my mouth is full bravenak Feb 2016 #101

Is that supposed to be some kind of Southern Smear? AlbertCat Feb 2016 #103

It's talking about my breakfast, wtf? bravenak Feb 2016 #125

That's what happens when you Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #135

Ha! I was hungry tho bravenak Feb 2016 #136

Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #113

Are you saying Brave's kids are violent drug dealing gang members? Why? bettyellen Feb 2016 #174

Yes, I always call people I like "Superpredators". jeff47 Feb 2016 #65

Me too bravenak Feb 2016 #66

you never did tell me why you support Hillary Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #96

You really want to know? bravenak Feb 2016 #131

fair enough-- thanks Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #134

With such thoughtful post as yours how could anyone even think of voting for anyone but Hillary? n/t A Simple Game Feb 2016 #89

Because Jill Stein should be running for the Democratic nom? Maybe they'd want her instead. bravenak Feb 2016 #94

Al Franken as President, with Jill Stein as VP... SidDithers Feb 2016 #108

I'd enjoy it to death bravenak Feb 2016 #123

Careful there, I think I hurt my neck following you on that tangent. n/t A Simple Game Feb 2016 #111

Ok. bravenak Feb 2016 #129

LOL........ great line Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #138

Apparently you only want Hillary to lecture to you.. Bohemianwriter Feb 2016 #37

She doesnt say that to me bravenak Feb 2016 #78

So what has she done for you or said to you that makes her so attractive? Bohemianwriter Feb 2016 #95

you are so full of it. ChairmanAgnostic Feb 2016 #74

You cant tell me where to go. Do you OWN DU? bravenak Feb 2016 #77

Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #80

My gramma is dead bravenak Feb 2016 #82

Worse than that, bravenak, he's telling you to remember your place. I'm shocked by the casual ... marble falls Feb 2016 #200

Me too, but it happens often enough to become numb bravenak Feb 2016 #201

Not nice, sir or madame, not nice at all... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #205

Your BS is tiresome. Nobody is lecturing you. BillZBubb Feb 2016 #86

Why are you paying me so much attention? bravenak Feb 2016 #88

You dont like being lectured to by white people about what MLK was really about? Jackie Wilson Said Feb 2016 #153

I am used to it bravenak Feb 2016 #154

Not from a black perspective? 21st Century Poet Feb 2016 #105

Here's HRC's perspective: It took a president to get the CRA passed. TheBlackAdder Feb 2016 #190

I'm going to watch the MLK resurrection Boondocks episode tonight firebrand80 Feb 2016 #6

Me too, great idea! bravenak Feb 2016 #13

Ha! good idea. nt Quayblue Feb 2016 #30

Great idea! leftofcool Feb 2016 #87

Yes. This again. 99Forever Feb 2016 #122

Oh no! Keep this up it works so well bravenak Feb 2016 #127

Seemed to do alright in NH. 99Forever Feb 2016 #140

Thats not black voters its all poc bravenak Feb 2016 #141

That's your excuse for being completely and totally WRONG WRONG WRONG again? 99Forever Feb 2016 #143

Ok bravenak Feb 2016 #144

It's just the usual attention-grabbing n/t arcane1 Feb 2016 #152

We don't care if they don't want to hear it. SamKnause Feb 2016 #2

Jeff Cohen started FAIR Octafish Feb 2016 #8

this is one of the most offensive exercises in politics bigtree Feb 2016 #4

Sorry to hurt your feelings. The article quotes Dr. King to show what Dr. King said. Octafish Feb 2016 #10

throwing more fanciful queries up in the air from your imagination bigtree Feb 2016 #21

Based on his words and her record, do you think Dr. King would endorse Hillary Clinton? Octafish Feb 2016 #28

I'm firmly against speculating about which politician King would support bigtree Feb 2016 #39

It is about issues. 21st Century Poet Feb 2016 #118

If you think MLK would endorse a politician who have made a career.. Bohemianwriter Feb 2016 #41

I remember MLK endorsing issues, not politicians bigtree Feb 2016 #67

In that case, his choice would be easy... Bohemianwriter Feb 2016 #72

I agree to a point, my friend... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #16

The article proves that MLK was a self-identified democratic socialist. delrem Feb 2016 #166

If you believe you can speak for Dr. King DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #167

Nothing! bravenak Feb 2016 #168

I am flummoxed by those who presume to speak for Dr. King, you?/nt DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #169

I hate the seances most of all. bravenak Feb 2016 #170

According to the Bible God doesn't like mediums and spritists. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #172

A lazarus type reawakening bravenak Feb 2016 #173

If somebody can resurrect Martin, Malcolm, the martyred Kennedy brothers, and make... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #175

Mine too!! bravenak Feb 2016 #176

And Tupac! DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #178

Marley! Lennon! Grandma! bravenak Feb 2016 #179

And Marvin Gaye who died too young. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #180

Yes. I lived down the street from where it happened bravenak Feb 2016 #181

His daddy shot him. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #182

Yep. It was his daddys house bravenak Feb 2016 #183

The bible also says Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #206

I am a New Testament guy... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #207

But you quoted the old testament - Leviticus 19:31 Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #208

I would prefer a time out./nt DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #209

The OP quotes Dr. King. That isn't me. delrem Feb 2016 #185

I was referring to the suggestion he would be endorsing this candidate or that candidate. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #186

But not his own children. Wow. You guys are a piece of work. delrem Feb 2016 #187

I am a human being and not a piece of work DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #188

Wow. Thanks, DSB! So *both* Rep. John Lewis *and* Andrew Young have endorsed Hillary Clinton! BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #198

I think it's like all those "MLK Day Sales" promos you see, selling everything from autos to Tanuki Feb 2016 #204

it's so offensive to remind us of what MLK worked for? nashville_brook Feb 2016 #19

What good is having the right to sit at a lunch counter if you can’t afford to buy a hamburger? -MLK kristopher Feb 2016 #44

No, it's what DID he say. Not what would he say. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2016 #68

Not offensive at all 21st Century Poet Feb 2016 #137

I won't speculate or speak for MLK Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #7

Dr. King stood for equality, justice, prosperity and peace for all. Octafish Feb 2016 #20

..so what does John Lewis stand for? aspirant Feb 2016 #58

good question. Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #102

Somebody should ask him and compare to MLK's words aspirant Feb 2016 #109

I admire John Lewis greatly Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #211

A hearty recommendation FlatBaroque Feb 2016 #11

Cornel West: Why I Endorse Brother Bernie and Reject Brother Trump Octafish Feb 2016 #24

this part... FlatBaroque Feb 2016 #40

Wait West thinks Trump is authentic? mythology Feb 2016 #142

Maybe how he's wrapped it isn't appetizing Jarqui Feb 2016 #14

Things have gotten worse in Detroit, Flint and a lot of Michigan towns I know. Octafish Feb 2016 #54

I hadn't read this before Deny and Shred Feb 2016 #17

''Evolve'' has nothing to do with it for me. Octafish Feb 2016 #64

I was being silly with that comment Deny and Shred Feb 2016 #116

K & R AzDar Feb 2016 #18

Eugene Robinson: MLK’s prophetic call for economic justice Octafish Feb 2016 #83

Martin Luther King was a Democratic Socialist AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #23

that's how I see it. nt retrowire Feb 2016 #26

Huge K&R... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #25

''Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced.'' Octafish Feb 2016 #97

This again? Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #27

Jinx! bravenak Feb 2016 #29

All I can say at this point Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #31

Yep. JTFrog Feb 2016 #79

How can it be that it is worse? I dont know but it is. It is. bravenak Feb 2016 #85

Interesting. When our most cherished beliefs are confounded by reality, Hortensis Feb 2016 #192

I have it now. Lesson learned. bravenak Feb 2016 #193

Sorry to embarrass you. Octafish Feb 2016 #38

Huh? Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #48

LoL! Duppers Feb 2016 #51

I don't think that these types of speculative pieces are productive. blackspade Feb 2016 #32

Thank you for your thoughts, blackspade. Octafish Feb 2016 #107

Oh, his words and ideas definitely remain and resonate today. blackspade Feb 2016 #139

I believe Dr King would support Bernie, not only on economic reform peacebird Feb 2016 #35

Absolutely. ''How the New York Times Screwed Martin Luther King Jr.'' Octafish Feb 2016 #160

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Feb 2016 #36

The Chicago Boys in Chile: Economic Freedom's Awful Toll Octafish Feb 2016 #159

Supporting? Maybe. King never endorsed candidates though. Recursion Feb 2016 #43

If you are a Buddhist, Hindu or Christian aspirant Feb 2016 #62

The economic justice MLK doesn't fit the current Hillary for President meme. jalan48 Feb 2016 #45

Righto. Helen Borg Feb 2016 #46

This is clearly clanging on a nerve in the HRC camp. kristopher Feb 2016 #47

“What good is having the right to sit at a lunch counter if you can’t afford to buy a hamburger?” Octafish Feb 2016 #119

Oh God, what next? George II Feb 2016 #49

Who would Jesus, Moses, John the Baptist support? leftofcool Feb 2016 #90

Bernie azmom Feb 2016 #191

Speaking of God.. NastyRiffraff Feb 2016 #194

All historical evidence indicates that he would. nt Zorra Feb 2016 #52

Martin Luther King’s warnings on inequality were ahead of his time Octafish Feb 2016 #146

Holy crap gollygee Feb 2016 #56

Maybe not, but MLK was a Democratic Socialist. Dawgs Feb 2016 #76

It's really just speculation gollygee Feb 2016 #84

Disagree. n/t Dawgs Feb 2016 #120

Great Story expanding Dr. King's & Bernie's message Respect 88 Feb 2016 #57

Here's What Bernie Sanders Actually Did in the Civil Rights Movement Octafish Feb 2016 #163

Good post Octafish... AOR Feb 2016 #63

Outstanding information. Thank you for adding, AOR! Octafish Feb 2016 #73

We might have some points of contention on a few things... AOR Feb 2016 #155

'not sure why anyone would object'? navarth Feb 2016 #81

Yep...seems there are some hidden agendas to defend business as usual... AOR Feb 2016 #156

Octafish is a history course in a box nolabels Feb 2016 #104

The research and writing is top notch from Octafish... AOR Feb 2016 #158

This place is a fucking looney tunes marathon. n/t JTFrog Feb 2016 #69

One thing that's clear: some people have a hard time thinking outside their comfort zone. Octafish Feb 2016 #145

Making a comment is hardly trying to shut down discussion. JTFrog Feb 2016 #157

When you use ''fuck'' in the reply titles it gets picked up by search engines. Octafish Feb 2016 #161

Great Point. nt zentrum Feb 2016 #70

None of us will ever know (nt) bigwillq Feb 2016 #75

Holy crap, Octafish, way to defend a position Android3.14 Feb 2016 #91

LOL!!! Perfect. Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #93

Sen. Sanders never had to evolve to the correct position on Civil Rights KeepItReal Feb 2016 #98

King made no endorsements in 1960, 1964, 1968. He practiced direct democracy Bucky Feb 2016 #110

Thanks, very important points! Dr. King did appreciate the phone call from JFK. Octafish Feb 2016 #148

True justice, and thus true justice reform is not race based... Wounded Bear Feb 2016 #112

Can Bernie win if the multiplication operation does not commute? longship Feb 2016 #114

FWIU, King put people and peace ahead of war profiteering. Octafish Feb 2016 #212

Thanks for posting this important rebuttal to the current meme 2banon Feb 2016 #115

Oh FFS BumRushDaShow Feb 2016 #117

+1...nt SidDithers Feb 2016 #132

this one stands out to me retrowire Feb 2016 #121

No, MLK wouldn't. He didn't support and candidates in his life. Why would he? Feeling the Bern Feb 2016 #126

MLK's opinions in the last years of his life Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #150

Objection... deathrind Feb 2016 #128

Great post Octafish! whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #130

I think he'd support Clinton just like most of the Civil Rights leaders from that period. Hoyt Feb 2016 #133

Among the populace, the only man greater than Rep. John Lewis is MLK Jr. himself. BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #147

I agree. When I lived in Georgia, Lewis, Bond, etc., were my favorites. We also had a character Hoyt Feb 2016 #149

There is no living figure closer to Dr. King than his own kin than Andy Young. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #177

I didn't know that, DSB. Thank you for the info. BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #196

Please see Post 188 DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #197

Fantastic post Octafish! liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #151

Hard to say since he is dead we can't ask him. WI_DEM Feb 2016 #162

another righteous Octafish post navarth Feb 2016 #165

Anyone who knows what MLK believed knows the answer deutsey Feb 2016 #171

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #184

Damn straight he would. senz Feb 2016 #189

Oh fer chissakes, this again? wildeyed Feb 2016 #195

Cornell West support Bernie Sanders and Sanders associates his campaign with him uponit7771 Feb 2016 #199

Maybe the hint of who MLK would support is in John Lewis endorsement. Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #202

Does the Pope wear a hat? - nt KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #203

I cannot think of one thing Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #210