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Jarqui

(10,122 posts)
14. Maybe how he's wrapped it isn't appetizing
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 10:07 AM
Feb 2016

Maybe that it's not written by a black leader or someone that was close to MLK hurts it's perceived credibility.

Maybe saying "King himself supported democratic socialism" goes too far trying to put that label on it.

But there is no escaping MLK was very concerned with economic unfairness for blacks. Here's a quote of his that stuck with me:

"We cannot be satisfied as long as the negro's basic mobility is from a smaller ghetto to a larger one."
MLK "I Have A Dream" speech 1963


At least, 27% of blacks, if not more, are still in that ghetto.

The one candidate who has been consistently against that and for getting people out of poverty since before he heard the above quote in 1963 is Bernie Sanders.
This again? bravenak Feb 2016 #1
Yeah. What's wrong with ''This''? Octafish Feb 2016 #3
LOL bravenak Feb 2016 #5
Only black people can talk about Dr. King? Octafish Feb 2016 #9
Oh no! bravenak Feb 2016 #12
So, what makes Hillary more "Black"? She doesn't lecture at all, does she? HRC never dissed Obama? leveymg Feb 2016 #15
She likes us bravenak Feb 2016 #22
Weird, but ok hueymahl Feb 2016 #33
I call B.S., Her divisive posture on Obama, MLK, Jessie Jackson, Rev. Wright, will slowly reveal TheBlackAdder Feb 2016 #34
Thanks for this post. I'm with you 100% on this. LongTomH Feb 2016 #164
She likes you? You mean her image likes you. jalan48 Feb 2016 #42
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #50
So you, Brave in AK, like to be liked. That's some fiercely independent spirit right there! thereismore Feb 2016 #53
Everybody likes to be liked bravenak Feb 2016 #55
Weak sauce. I remember Sen. Byrd. He changed. People change. Maybe Hillary did she does not thereismore Feb 2016 #59
She is not as bad as then bravenak Feb 2016 #60
You are a very forgiving person. To her. nt thereismore Feb 2016 #61
She took her lumps bravenak Feb 2016 #71
So one of them was white, but Hillary specifically singled out black kids to be super-predators. thereismore Feb 2016 #92
She would have called him one too bravenak Feb 2016 #100
I think that mean that you know she is a racist and you are OK with it because thereismore Feb 2016 #106
Peace. bravenak Feb 2016 #124
You get it AlbertCat Feb 2016 #99
I'm eating grits right now with butter and bacon grease my mouth is full bravenak Feb 2016 #101
Is that supposed to be some kind of Southern Smear? AlbertCat Feb 2016 #103
It's talking about my breakfast, wtf? bravenak Feb 2016 #125
That's what happens when you Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #135
Ha! I was hungry tho bravenak Feb 2016 #136
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #113
Are you saying Brave's kids are violent drug dealing gang members? Why? bettyellen Feb 2016 #174
Yes, I always call people I like "Superpredators". jeff47 Feb 2016 #65
Me too bravenak Feb 2016 #66
you never did tell me why you support Hillary Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #96
You really want to know? bravenak Feb 2016 #131
fair enough-- thanks Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #134
With such thoughtful post as yours how could anyone even think of voting for anyone but Hillary? n/t A Simple Game Feb 2016 #89
Because Jill Stein should be running for the Democratic nom? Maybe they'd want her instead. bravenak Feb 2016 #94
Al Franken as President, with Jill Stein as VP... SidDithers Feb 2016 #108
I'd enjoy it to death bravenak Feb 2016 #123
Careful there, I think I hurt my neck following you on that tangent. n/t A Simple Game Feb 2016 #111
Ok. bravenak Feb 2016 #129
LOL........ great line Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #138
Apparently you only want Hillary to lecture to you.. Bohemianwriter Feb 2016 #37
She doesnt say that to me bravenak Feb 2016 #78
So what has she done for you or said to you that makes her so attractive? Bohemianwriter Feb 2016 #95
you are so full of it. ChairmanAgnostic Feb 2016 #74
You cant tell me where to go. Do you OWN DU? bravenak Feb 2016 #77
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #80
My gramma is dead bravenak Feb 2016 #82
Worse than that, bravenak, he's telling you to remember your place. I'm shocked by the casual ... marble falls Feb 2016 #200
Me too, but it happens often enough to become numb bravenak Feb 2016 #201
Not nice, sir or madame, not nice at all... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #205
Your BS is tiresome. Nobody is lecturing you. BillZBubb Feb 2016 #86
Why are you paying me so much attention? bravenak Feb 2016 #88
You dont like being lectured to by white people about what MLK was really about? Jackie Wilson Said Feb 2016 #153
I am used to it bravenak Feb 2016 #154
Not from a black perspective? 21st Century Poet Feb 2016 #105
Here's HRC's perspective: It took a president to get the CRA passed. TheBlackAdder Feb 2016 #190
I'm going to watch the MLK resurrection Boondocks episode tonight firebrand80 Feb 2016 #6
Me too, great idea! bravenak Feb 2016 #13
Ha! good idea. nt Quayblue Feb 2016 #30
Great idea! leftofcool Feb 2016 #87
Yes. This again. 99Forever Feb 2016 #122
Oh no! Keep this up it works so well bravenak Feb 2016 #127
Seemed to do alright in NH. 99Forever Feb 2016 #140
Thats not black voters its all poc bravenak Feb 2016 #141
That's your excuse for being completely and totally WRONG WRONG WRONG again? 99Forever Feb 2016 #143
Ok bravenak Feb 2016 #144
It's just the usual attention-grabbing n/t arcane1 Feb 2016 #152
We don't care if they don't want to hear it. SamKnause Feb 2016 #2
Jeff Cohen started FAIR Octafish Feb 2016 #8
this is one of the most offensive exercises in politics bigtree Feb 2016 #4
Sorry to hurt your feelings. The article quotes Dr. King to show what Dr. King said. Octafish Feb 2016 #10
throwing more fanciful queries up in the air from your imagination bigtree Feb 2016 #21
Based on his words and her record, do you think Dr. King would endorse Hillary Clinton? Octafish Feb 2016 #28
I'm firmly against speculating about which politician King would support bigtree Feb 2016 #39
It is about issues. 21st Century Poet Feb 2016 #118
If you think MLK would endorse a politician who have made a career.. Bohemianwriter Feb 2016 #41
I remember MLK endorsing issues, not politicians bigtree Feb 2016 #67
In that case, his choice would be easy... Bohemianwriter Feb 2016 #72
I agree to a point, my friend... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #16
The article proves that MLK was a self-identified democratic socialist. delrem Feb 2016 #166
If you believe you can speak for Dr. King DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #167
Nothing! bravenak Feb 2016 #168
I am flummoxed by those who presume to speak for Dr. King, you?/nt DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #169
I hate the seances most of all. bravenak Feb 2016 #170
According to the Bible God doesn't like mediums and spritists. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #172
A lazarus type reawakening bravenak Feb 2016 #173
If somebody can resurrect Martin, Malcolm, the martyred Kennedy brothers, and make... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #175
Mine too!! bravenak Feb 2016 #176
And Tupac! DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #178
Marley! Lennon! Grandma! bravenak Feb 2016 #179
And Marvin Gaye who died too young. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #180
Yes. I lived down the street from where it happened bravenak Feb 2016 #181
His daddy shot him. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #182
Yep. It was his daddys house bravenak Feb 2016 #183
The bible also says Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #206
I am a New Testament guy... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #207
But you quoted the old testament - Leviticus 19:31 Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #208
I would prefer a time out./nt DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #209
The OP quotes Dr. King. That isn't me. delrem Feb 2016 #185
I was referring to the suggestion he would be endorsing this candidate or that candidate. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #186
But not his own children. Wow. You guys are a piece of work. delrem Feb 2016 #187
I am a human being and not a piece of work DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #188
Wow. Thanks, DSB! So *both* Rep. John Lewis *and* Andrew Young have endorsed Hillary Clinton! BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #198
I think it's like all those "MLK Day Sales" promos you see, selling everything from autos to Tanuki Feb 2016 #204
it's so offensive to remind us of what MLK worked for? nashville_brook Feb 2016 #19
What good is having the right to sit at a lunch counter if you can’t afford to buy a hamburger? -MLK kristopher Feb 2016 #44
No, it's what DID he say. Not what would he say. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2016 #68
Not offensive at all 21st Century Poet Feb 2016 #137
I won't speculate or speak for MLK Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #7
Dr. King stood for equality, justice, prosperity and peace for all. Octafish Feb 2016 #20
..so what does John Lewis stand for? aspirant Feb 2016 #58
good question. Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #102
Somebody should ask him and compare to MLK's words aspirant Feb 2016 #109
I admire John Lewis greatly Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #211
A hearty recommendation FlatBaroque Feb 2016 #11
Cornel West: Why I Endorse Brother Bernie and Reject Brother Trump Octafish Feb 2016 #24
this part... FlatBaroque Feb 2016 #40
Wait West thinks Trump is authentic? mythology Feb 2016 #142
Maybe how he's wrapped it isn't appetizing Jarqui Feb 2016 #14
Things have gotten worse in Detroit, Flint and a lot of Michigan towns I know. Octafish Feb 2016 #54
I hadn't read this before Deny and Shred Feb 2016 #17
''Evolve'' has nothing to do with it for me. Octafish Feb 2016 #64
I was being silly with that comment Deny and Shred Feb 2016 #116
K & R AzDar Feb 2016 #18
Eugene Robinson: MLK’s prophetic call for economic justice Octafish Feb 2016 #83
Martin Luther King was a Democratic Socialist AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #23
that's how I see it. nt retrowire Feb 2016 #26
Huge K&R... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #25
''Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced.'' Octafish Feb 2016 #97
This again? Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #27
Jinx! bravenak Feb 2016 #29
All I can say at this point Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #31
Yep. JTFrog Feb 2016 #79
How can it be that it is worse? I dont know but it is. It is. bravenak Feb 2016 #85
Interesting. When our most cherished beliefs are confounded by reality, Hortensis Feb 2016 #192
I have it now. Lesson learned. bravenak Feb 2016 #193
Sorry to embarrass you. Octafish Feb 2016 #38
Huh? Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #48
LoL! Duppers Feb 2016 #51
I don't think that these types of speculative pieces are productive. blackspade Feb 2016 #32
Thank you for your thoughts, blackspade. Octafish Feb 2016 #107
Oh, his words and ideas definitely remain and resonate today. blackspade Feb 2016 #139
I believe Dr King would support Bernie, not only on economic reform peacebird Feb 2016 #35
Absolutely. ''How the New York Times Screwed Martin Luther King Jr.'' Octafish Feb 2016 #160
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Feb 2016 #36
The Chicago Boys in Chile: Economic Freedom's Awful Toll Octafish Feb 2016 #159
Supporting? Maybe. King never endorsed candidates though. Recursion Feb 2016 #43
If you are a Buddhist, Hindu or Christian aspirant Feb 2016 #62
The economic justice MLK doesn't fit the current Hillary for President meme. jalan48 Feb 2016 #45
Righto. Helen Borg Feb 2016 #46
This is clearly clanging on a nerve in the HRC camp. kristopher Feb 2016 #47
“What good is having the right to sit at a lunch counter if you can’t afford to buy a hamburger?” Octafish Feb 2016 #119
Oh God, what next? George II Feb 2016 #49
Who would Jesus, Moses, John the Baptist support? leftofcool Feb 2016 #90
Bernie azmom Feb 2016 #191
Speaking of God.. NastyRiffraff Feb 2016 #194
All historical evidence indicates that he would. nt Zorra Feb 2016 #52
Martin Luther King’s warnings on inequality were ahead of his time Octafish Feb 2016 #146
Holy crap gollygee Feb 2016 #56
Maybe not, but MLK was a Democratic Socialist. Dawgs Feb 2016 #76
It's really just speculation gollygee Feb 2016 #84
Disagree. n/t Dawgs Feb 2016 #120
Great Story expanding Dr. King's & Bernie's message Respect 88 Feb 2016 #57
Here's What Bernie Sanders Actually Did in the Civil Rights Movement Octafish Feb 2016 #163
Good post Octafish... AOR Feb 2016 #63
Outstanding information. Thank you for adding, AOR! Octafish Feb 2016 #73
We might have some points of contention on a few things... AOR Feb 2016 #155
'not sure why anyone would object'? navarth Feb 2016 #81
Yep...seems there are some hidden agendas to defend business as usual... AOR Feb 2016 #156
Octafish is a history course in a box nolabels Feb 2016 #104
The research and writing is top notch from Octafish... AOR Feb 2016 #158
This place is a fucking looney tunes marathon. n/t JTFrog Feb 2016 #69
One thing that's clear: some people have a hard time thinking outside their comfort zone. Octafish Feb 2016 #145
Making a comment is hardly trying to shut down discussion. JTFrog Feb 2016 #157
When you use ''fuck'' in the reply titles it gets picked up by search engines. Octafish Feb 2016 #161
Great Point. nt zentrum Feb 2016 #70
None of us will ever know (nt) bigwillq Feb 2016 #75
Holy crap, Octafish, way to defend a position Android3.14 Feb 2016 #91
LOL!!! Perfect. Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #93
Sen. Sanders never had to evolve to the correct position on Civil Rights KeepItReal Feb 2016 #98
King made no endorsements in 1960, 1964, 1968. He practiced direct democracy Bucky Feb 2016 #110
Thanks, very important points! Dr. King did appreciate the phone call from JFK. Octafish Feb 2016 #148
True justice, and thus true justice reform is not race based... Wounded Bear Feb 2016 #112
Can Bernie win if the multiplication operation does not commute? longship Feb 2016 #114
FWIU, King put people and peace ahead of war profiteering. Octafish Feb 2016 #212
Thanks for posting this important rebuttal to the current meme 2banon Feb 2016 #115
Oh FFS BumRushDaShow Feb 2016 #117
+1...nt SidDithers Feb 2016 #132
this one stands out to me retrowire Feb 2016 #121
No, MLK wouldn't. He didn't support and candidates in his life. Why would he? Feeling the Bern Feb 2016 #126
MLK's opinions in the last years of his life Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #150
Objection... deathrind Feb 2016 #128
Great post Octafish! whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #130
I think he'd support Clinton just like most of the Civil Rights leaders from that period. Hoyt Feb 2016 #133
Among the populace, the only man greater than Rep. John Lewis is MLK Jr. himself. BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #147
I agree. When I lived in Georgia, Lewis, Bond, etc., were my favorites. We also had a character Hoyt Feb 2016 #149
There is no living figure closer to Dr. King than his own kin than Andy Young. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #177
I didn't know that, DSB. Thank you for the info. BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #196
Please see Post 188 DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #197
Fantastic post Octafish! liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #151
Hard to say since he is dead we can't ask him. WI_DEM Feb 2016 #162
another righteous Octafish post navarth Feb 2016 #165
Anyone who knows what MLK believed knows the answer deutsey Feb 2016 #171
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #184
Damn straight he would. senz Feb 2016 #189
Oh fer chissakes, this again? wildeyed Feb 2016 #195
Cornell West support Bernie Sanders and Sanders associates his campaign with him uponit7771 Feb 2016 #199
Maybe the hint of who MLK would support is in John Lewis endorsement. Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #202
Does the Pope wear a hat? - nt KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #203
I cannot think of one thing Jenny_92808 Feb 2016 #210
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