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joshcryer

(62,287 posts)
17. TPP was the only thing I got wrong about Clinton.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 03:22 AM
Jan 2016

I assumed, wrongly, she'd embrace it as part of her fulfilling Obama's legacy approach (which, unlike Gore, I think was a good move, embrace the former Democratic President, don't shy away). I suppose she calculated that since it had already passed (she did not come out against it until it was done) that it'd be a weak gimmie. She's hardly spoken out "against" it in her rhetoric since.

The Wall Street rhetoric is not very controversial to me, the banks really are too risky at the moment, and Warren even argued that they're undervalued because of that. If you break them up they become more valuable, so Clinton's threats to push a fee and break them up (yes, Clinton came out for breaking them up on her Colbert interview) is not controversial and Wall Street likely backs some kind of restructuring so that they're more robust. Equal pay, etc, is a given, it's been part of the platform forever.

As usual, a great post from Prism! Bonobo Jan 2016 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jan 2016 #2
+1000 RobertEarl Jan 2016 #28
BAM!!! Tell us how you really feel. draa Jan 2016 #3
Great post, Prism. I do however have a calmness about Bernie roguevalley Jan 2016 #25
I'm surprisingly calm myself. draa Jan 2016 #27
Like I have said before. WHEN CRABS ROAR Jan 2016 #59
It's not "making her look corrupt and on the take" Divernan Jan 2016 #64
Hey, you get no argument from me draa Jan 2016 #66
.^that 840high Jan 2016 #92
I have a giddy excitement about Bernie winning. cui bono Jan 2016 #68
Good for you, and for the Democratic Party. You're doing more than your share! Cal33 Jan 2016 #76
Brilliant. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #4
Guilty of the second one. Kalidurga Jan 2016 #5
Do you really think big money backers put all their eggs in one basket? n/t Skwmom Jan 2016 #6
Eaxctly, what is it you are implying with that remark? Care to clarify yourself. Hiraeth Jan 2016 #72
Apparently some lady sold them a basket but can't sell it to the American people. She has no DhhD Jan 2016 #81
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #7
Serious question: why did you think #2? Recursion Jan 2016 #8
It's tangled with #1 Prism Jan 2016 #10
Ah, that makes sense. Recursion Jan 2016 #11
Speaking of irony read my post below Armstead Jan 2016 #46
You may be right but when people started saying Sanders would get a chunk of Republicans Samantha Jan 2016 #84
How about actually having beliefs? Armstead Jan 2016 #45
Spot on. Nt. Juicy_Bellows Jan 2016 #9
Sounds like a theater directive. ChairmanAgnostic Jan 2016 #65
Yes nikto Jan 2016 #12
Yep, nailed it! Eom flor-de-jasmim Jan 2016 #13
Brilliantly done, Prism. Excellent OP. K&R. n/t JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #14
They were faking being on the left to begin with so you're seeing them being themselves. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #15
Very well said lastone Jan 2016 #16
TPP was the only thing I got wrong about Clinton. joshcryer Jan 2016 #17
I really think TPP was an edit in progress Prism Jan 2016 #18
She backed away from TPP for the time being to give the labor union bigs cover Bernblu Jan 2016 #21
Here's where Warren says the banks are undervalued: joshcryer Jan 2016 #22
But it cuts to the core of my point Prism Jan 2016 #24
I agree about Clinton. joshcryer Jan 2016 #26
The TPP opposition was a lie Doctor_J Jan 2016 #86
You pulled a Neil deGrasse Tyson. SamKnause Jan 2016 #19
Terrific OP! nt artislife Jan 2016 #20
spot on lucid analysis. big k and r bbgrunt Jan 2016 #23
If Senator Sanders loses, you can ... Tortmaster Jan 2016 #29
having run away< No, President Sanders is just going on, can't wait for her to play catch up. n/t jtuck004 Jan 2016 #30
Thanks! Now my post is ... Tortmaster Jan 2016 #31
Miscalculation # 3: we expected a semblance of impartiality from the DNC. Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #32
Well said, Prism. n/t Paper Roses Jan 2016 #33
K&R CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #34
I feel your pain. GeorgeGist Jan 2016 #35
Full-fledged Republican. LWolf Jan 2016 #36
When Clinton states you're not being realistic, she is telling you the lobbyists have Jefferson23 Jan 2016 #37
K&R! QC Jan 2016 #38
I am sick of all the Hillary supporters who sound like REPUBLICANS. Odin2005 Jan 2016 #39
They don't just sound like them Lorien Jan 2016 #48
"I did not think we, as Democrats, would be spending all this time being Republicans." *mic drop* VulgarPoet Jan 2016 #40
Outstanding OP! Punkingal Jan 2016 #41
Kick again! QC Jan 2016 #42
Kick! beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #43
They think Wall Street is good, and taxes and healthcare are bad. DemocraticWing Jan 2016 #44
Excellent analysis Lorien Jan 2016 #47
adding to an excellent OP, ^THIS^ Kip Humphrey Jan 2016 #52
Thanks Kip! Lorien Jan 2016 #90
Massive KnR. Well put! retrowire Jan 2016 #49
She will likely lose in the general. But let's say she wins - she will have zero coattails, closeupready Jan 2016 #50
She won't be in the general to lose it though. n/t cui bono Jan 2016 #71
Astonishing post. virtualobserver Jan 2016 #51
Most have made up their minds, those that will vote in primaries. All criticism randys1 Jan 2016 #53
I don't think these are necessarily miscalculations. Nor were they Bernie's. Orsino Jan 2016 #54
Methods of persuasion used by the media to make us believe something that is not. Bernie 2016! Yupy Jan 2016 #55
Great read. Thanks for cogently listing all the reasons why I am not a fan of Hillary Clinton!nt m-lekktor Jan 2016 #56
I miscalculated how excellent this OP is. Ivan Kaputski Jan 2016 #57
K and R! geardaddy Jan 2016 #58
Awesome rant. 99Forever Jan 2016 #60
Most Excellent Post !!! - K & R !!! WillyT Jan 2016 #61
Excellent - i just added it to my twitter feed dorkzilla Jan 2016 #62
K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations! I was 199! Enthusiast Jan 2016 #63
Kick azmom Jan 2016 #67
Well articulated! Great read! emsimon33 Jan 2016 #69
A Clinton presidency would do great harm to this country and Unknown Beatle Jan 2016 #70
I'm glad I'm not the only one posting chervilant Jan 2016 #75
Do you have many of the swarm on ignore? hedda_foil Jan 2016 #79
I have almost all of them chervilant Jan 2016 #87
"the Republicans' current target of war boner salivation" Utopian Leftist Jan 2016 #73
Your post blew me away! Awesome! PatrickforO Jan 2016 #74
Miscalculation #2 - Bernie's candidacy would pull Hillary to the left. Babel_17 Jan 2016 #77
Good point. immoderate Jan 2016 #85
293 recs Iwillnevergiveup Jan 2016 #78
K & R! SoapBox Jan 2016 #80
K&R Paka Jan 2016 #82
K&R amborin Jan 2016 #83
Excellent post. morningfog Jan 2016 #88
May I just say that this OP is without a doubt , Autumn Jan 2016 #89
Exscellent post. 840high Jan 2016 #91
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