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Bernardo de La Paz

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30. It comes from a couple of ideological grounds and a mistaken self-view.
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 07:04 AM
Mar 2017

First there is the fiscal conservative idea that government should not forcibly take (taxes) and redistribute to the poor. That's "socialism" or "communism". That's what the Romans did through Herod. But paradoxically Republicons and christian RWAF adore Rome for its power and order and authoritarianism (lots of overlap between christians and RWAF).

Secondly, there is the idea that "god helps those who help themselves". It is the idea that hard work should be rewarded and needy people don't work hard. It is reinforced by the framing of language like "welfare queens". It shows itself in Republicon statements like Chaffetz saying that poor and people with pre-existing conditions need to choose between getting an Apple phone or health insurance / care.

The mistaken self-view is that they view themselves as "very charitable". They think that charities could and should do all the helping of the needy. They do not realize that the most charitable people, by percentage of disposable income, are the poor. The average RW christian is middle class and gives some money to churches and charities, many of which have high overhead, and some of which have CEOs and mega-pastors who live very high indeed.

So they overrate their charity and underrate the needs of people and ideologically endorse strict government fiscal conservatism.

It looks like Pat ... NanceGreggs Mar 2017 #1
Bigly! beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #3
"inadvertently", ay? LakeArenal Mar 2017 #39
Good point! beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #47
Wow just wow Lotusflower70 Mar 2017 #2
The fact that Trump is president only reaffirms my atheism. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #4
He's the one that created the original sinner.... LakeArenal Mar 2017 #40
Another quote from a late great: beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #41
Sounds just like Dump, too. LakeArenal Mar 2017 #43
+100 narnian60 Mar 2017 #19
I really don't get it. trusty elf Mar 2017 #5
LMAO! beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #7
I think it comes from that same part of the brain SticksnStones Mar 2017 #33
I can't stand that phony luvMIdog Mar 2017 #6
His core audience must be dying off at a pretty fast clip. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #8
Lots of Trump supporters sound like him saying Trump is doing God's work - Good grief luvMIdog Mar 2017 #9
They're staggeringly hypocritical. I don't understand how their minds work. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #11
Like when he was talking about his translator's breasts exboyfil Mar 2017 #25
When I think of Pat Robertson, which fortunately is not often, vlyons Mar 2017 #10
Well said. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #12
But he's always been like that. defacto7 Mar 2017 #48
Sorry PAT SOMEONE TOLD you something that was complete yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #13
Could it be... beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #15
Lol! Happyhippychick Mar 2017 #35
As if a god , any god , would choose Donald Trump as the vessel of good works. nocalflea Mar 2017 #14
All good questions. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #16
I'm afraid that the concept of doing the right nocalflea Mar 2017 #17
God will probably end up giving a package of Charman Norbert Mar 2017 #18
Sounds like a plan. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #20
Jesus would never charge a copay TEB Mar 2017 #21
Neither would the Flying Spaghetti Monster. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #22
Yeah, and if GWC58 Mar 2017 #44
It comes from a couple of ideological grounds and a mistaken self-view. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2017 #30
Excellent post. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #37
I'd have more respect GWC58 Mar 2017 #45
When I was in charge of 'adopting' a family at Christmas that's how we did it. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #46
Just like God elected him President 20 years ago - he's on a roll! n/m bagelsforbreakfast Mar 2017 #23
LOL! beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #24
Stupid is as stupid does. mdbl Mar 2017 #26
Yes but a spectacular fail like this is rare, this happened the next day. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #27
We'll see mdbl Mar 2017 #28
Oh I know they'll figure out a way to square it in their own heads. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #31
Wow - so what's the going rate for a soul these days? ButSeeYa Mar 2017 #29
If souls exist Pat sold his long ago. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #32
It's "Gods work " to yank healthcare from 24 million people? Happyhippychick Mar 2017 #34
Well it's not really anything new. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #36
So.Not.About.Victory elias7 Mar 2017 #38
What a loser! Sad! beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #42
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