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MADem

(135,425 posts)
13. The person isn't holding a "deeply and fervently held belief."
Sun May 12, 2013, 10:29 AM
May 2013

The person is not understanding the very essential founding tenets of a belief system that they purport to uphold, of a faith that they claim membership in.

Surely you understand the difference, if you just take a moment to think about this issue in the full context in which it is being discussed. Here, let me break it down for you in a single simple, easy comparative sentence:

You can't make up your own rules when you play Monopoly, or baseball, or poker, either.


It's not "bigotry" to note that someone isn't following the rules of the game they are playing, or the faith they are following.

This woman is not following, nor understanding, the "rules" of the Christian faith she purports to profess. Out of solid ignorance or her own bigotry, she didn't learn or retain the history of the establishment of her own belief system.

Do you understand now? I've tried to keep it plain and simple, so there would be no confusion.

God vs Allah [View all] ErikJ May 2013 OP
Allah, The One, and God are the same but we're all pretty dense. rug May 2013 #1
People are always accusing me of acting superior because I'm an Atheist.... Walk away May 2013 #2
How does one resolve disputes over higer order levels of abstraction? Newest Reality May 2013 #3
No Bible scholar here, but didn't the Jewish people No Vested Interest May 2013 #4
You cannot fix stupid. MADem May 2013 #5
So why do you characterize skepticscott May 2013 #11
The person isn't holding a "deeply and fervently held belief." MADem May 2013 #13
"You can't make up your own rules when you play Monopoly, or baseball, or poker, either." goldent May 2013 #30
Thing is, if this woman writing this bigoted remark looks in the rule book, it is going MADem May 2013 #37
I get what you are saying from a broad theological viewpoint goldent May 2013 #54
I don't disagree. MADem May 2013 #56
I understand perfectly skepticscott May 2013 #31
Yeah, surprise, surprise--you're looking for a fight. "Was that really all you had? Seriously?" MADem May 2013 #36
Well, yeah..you do skepticscott May 2013 #45
But Protestants don't make up a new rule about what Abraham said. MADem May 2013 #48
And if Christianity or even this discussion skepticscott May 2013 #61
Eh. That's for purposes of missionary work. Igel May 2013 #34
What you are saying is just blatantly untrue from a theological standpoint. MADem May 2013 #35
you use the word 'theology' as if that should be impressive and give weight. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #58
Well, no. MADem May 2013 #60
Socrates was convicted in part because of his one god ideas Voice for Peace May 2013 #52
He's not in any of the "Good" books, though. MADem May 2013 #57
Just think of the Hebrew root El, which is used to end so many angel names. dimbear May 2013 #6
Jesus worshiped "Allaha" (Aramaic for "God") CJCRANE May 2013 #7
But of course, Christians skepticscott May 2013 #10
Christians are not the only one. hrmjustin May 2013 #66
So true. They all make the same claim. You pays your money and you takes your chance. dimbear May 2013 #69
Correction: Christians worship three gods aristocles May 2013 #8
Actually Catholics worship a whole pantheon of gods. Warren Stupidity May 2013 #9
Oh really? Please do list, say, six from this pantheon. rug May 2013 #15
Roman gods whom Catholics made saints...too numerous to list here, but see the link aristocles May 2013 #16
If that were true, you've contradicted yourself. rug May 2013 #21
I was raised a Catholic aristocles May 2013 #22
Your family may, or you may believe they do, but "the Polish and the Sicilians" don't. rug May 2013 #23
So you are reduced to the no true Catholics argument. Warren Stupidity May 2013 #26
Well, Warren the question was put to you and you still haven't answered. rug May 2013 #41
This is news to me goldent May 2013 #32
So do the Irish. They build cathedrals to them, they pray to them, Walk away May 2013 #38
Ok, you agree with the broad brush of Poles and Sicilians and now you want to include "the Irish". rug May 2013 #44
Are you actually denying that the basis for christianity is the Adonis myth? Walk away May 2013 #47
Uh, yeah. rug May 2013 #50
If you feel the need to spin your wheels go for it. Walk away May 2013 #68
Mary, plus pick 4 from your favorite angels, saints, etc. plus the great satan. Warren Stupidity May 2013 #25
Ok, now show me where they are referred to as gods. rug May 2013 #42
They aren't officially. You know that. Warren Stupidity May 2013 #62
Ah, they're not "officially" gods. Ok. rug May 2013 #63
My original claim still stands: catholicism has a pantheon of deities. Warren Stupidity May 2013 #64
No it doesn't. It acknowledges one God only. rug May 2013 #65
Here, perhaps a picture might help. Warren Stupidity May 2013 #27
I'm sure you know Botticini was depicting the communion of the saints. rug May 2013 #43
I have never seen so much ignorance is so few words. rug May 2013 #14
From the Wikipedia article on transubstantiation aristocles May 2013 #17
Keep reading. rug May 2013 #19
Simple sophistry and hocus-pocus aristocles May 2013 #24
Why don't you post the link then? rug May 2013 #39
Edward Gibbon from the preface to "History of Christianity" aristocles May 2013 #18
Next time put a link. rug May 2013 #20
The problem with transubstantiation goldent May 2013 #33
Would you make a Yankees fan root for the Red Sox? Bad Thoughts May 2013 #12
No--that's not it. God and Allah and Yahweh, etc. are all "baseball." MADem May 2013 #28
That would be so if baseball was all in your mind and the teams were... Walk away May 2013 #40
There are people who specialize in philosophies that will tell you that baseball, and your reality, MADem May 2013 #49
Funny - this is EXACTLY the same thing I thought... goldent May 2013 #29
Well this was fun aristocles May 2013 #46
try the socratic method Voice for Peace May 2013 #51
"God" = 6 of one. "Allah" = half dozen of another. nt Deep13 May 2013 #53
Doesn't it make you feel all warm and fuzzy? LiberalAndProud May 2013 #55
It's much like talking about Christians version of Jesus and Muslims version of Jesus muxin May 2013 #59
Same God, just different ideas of what God is. hrmjustin May 2013 #67
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