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QuantumOfPeace

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20. Why don't atheists approach this problem like a scientist would?

Tue Oct 2, 2012, 05:49 AM

Oct 2012

Last edited Tue Oct 2, 2012, 09:23 AM - Edit history (1)

I wonder why so many do not.

Clearly, shouting, "There is no god. There is evolution!" is NOT going to create change.

Open question: what would?

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Atheists to protest grand opening at California creationist museum [View all] cbayer Sep 2012 OP

Why aren't Christians and Jews and others there, too? DavidL Sep 2012 #1

Why do you assume they are not? Do you have some preconceived notions cbayer Sep 2012 #2

You mean no better than your broad brush assumption skepticscott Sep 2012 #3

Uh, creationists are dumbasses HERVEPA Oct 2012 #27

All creationists are either ignorant or stupid. Their call. Raster Oct 2012 #28

Because your OP title said only "atheists" Oregonian Oct 2012 #8

Oops! They do. cbayer Sep 2012 #4

I'm ambivalent about this. okasha Oct 2012 #12

I think there is potential harm in promoting this. cbayer Oct 2012 #14

tp allpw people to make asses of themselves in public, AlbertCat Oct 2012 #54

Do you have any evidence okasha Oct 2012 #56

Do you have any evidence of tax dollars paying for this museum? AlbertCat Oct 2012 #57

It's owned and run by a 501(3)(c) corporation and will have the same cbayer Oct 2012 #59

Because try as they might to insist that Science & Religion go hand-in-hand Oregonian Oct 2012 #7

Religion is only compatible with religion. Raster Oct 2012 #29

I think Creationists are going down a wrong path, but SO WHAT? Tigress DEM Oct 2012 #5

My objection is that the facility continues to perpetuate creationism in cbayer Oct 2012 #6

"I also preach tolerance, but I am not infinitely tolerant." So then. humblebum Oct 2012 #10

Not what I meant. What I meant is that I am tolerant of other POV's up to the cbayer Oct 2012 #11

Agreed. My apologies. nt humblebum Oct 2012 #13

No need for apologies. I wasn't clear. cbayer Oct 2012 #15

My focus is more keeping it out of the schools and being taught AS science. Tigress DEM Oct 2012 #18

I agree with the priorty of keeping it out of schools, particularly as a science. cbayer Oct 2012 #25

Climate denial is funded by secular interests QuantumOfPeace Oct 2012 #63

Excellent points, but having an ignorant populace, they are able to advance their cause(s). cbayer Oct 2012 #64

So, free speech for the YEC, but not for the rational? Oregonian Oct 2012 #9

I seriously question your form of rationality. i choose to humblebum Oct 2012 #16

Shall I also be open to Hippos flying Oregonian Oct 2012 #17

Agreeing with someone's philosophy or wild ideas and protesting them are extremes. Tigress DEM Oct 2012 #19

And now you're getting down to it Oregonian Oct 2012 #24

narrow-minded and extremely biased. AlbertCat Oct 2012 #55

When the atheistic argument is based generally on the logical positivist POV, humblebum Oct 2012 #80

the logical positivist POV, AlbertCat Oct 2012 #81

You don't even have a clue. nt humblebum Oct 2012 #82

You don't even have a clue. AlbertCat Oct 2012 #83

That's one of humblebums standard answers when he has nothing left to support his bullshit. cleanhippie Oct 2012 #84

Apparently. trotsky Oct 2012 #22

Why don't atheists approach this problem like a scientist would? QuantumOfPeace Oct 2012 #20

Excellent question. This needs to be challenged at a legislative and school board level. cbayer Oct 2012 #26

What would a scientist do to assess the situation? QuantumOfPeace Oct 2012 #60

By proposing a theory about what has caused the problem and then using that data cbayer Oct 2012 #61

Teach both QuantumOfPeace Oct 2012 #71

They are in complete conflict. You can not embrace evolution and believe that the earth is cbayer Oct 2012 #72

On a practical basis QuantumOfPeace Oct 2012 #77

Are you a creationist? cbayer Oct 2012 #78

Hi. trotsky Oct 2012 #30

Strictly, the only thing an atheist can say is "there is no god". QuantumOfPeace Oct 2012 #34

Thank you for admitting your quote was fabricated. n/t trotsky Oct 2012 #37

what constitutes "atheist protest" in fact QuantumOfPeace Oct 2012 #42

There's no challenge. You made up a quote. trotsky Oct 2012 #46

It was CLEARLY figurative - media should give quotes from "atheist protest" not press release QuantumOfPeace Oct 2012 #49

No, it wasn't CLEARLY figurative. You made it appear like it was an actual quote. trotsky Oct 2012 #51

Is "atheist protest" just cheap atheism publicity? QuantumOfPeace Oct 2012 #62

Quote fabricated. Thanks for playing. n/t trotsky Oct 2012 #65

How can you fabricate a quote from an event that hasn't occured yet? LOL QuantumOfPeace Oct 2012 #66

It's OK, I've seen your hatred for atheists now and I understand. trotsky Oct 2012 #67

Those dastardly creationists! QuantumOfPeace Oct 2012 #69

It's and tried and true tactic of a certain group of people Leontius Oct 2012 #68

No hate, just the truth QuantumOfPeace Oct 2012 #70

Do you think that gang violence is the result of atheistic ethics and choices? trotsky Oct 2012 #73

No I do not and a warning about how some people like to use certain methods Leontius Oct 2012 #74

I'm sure he appreciates your help! n/t trotsky Oct 2012 #75

Yep I could tell he did. Leontius Oct 2012 #79

I certainly didn't enjoy "the gang's" blasphemy day QuantumOfPeace Oct 2012 #76

Nothing will convince the true believer that their idiocy is idocy... bowens43 Oct 2012 #52

Will people actually go to such a museum? Dorian Gray Oct 2012 #21

They are all over the country. cbayer Oct 2012 #33

I can't imagine. Luckily, I've never seen one in my travels. Dorian Gray Oct 2012 #50

This seems likely to result in the Streisand Effect ButterflyBlood Oct 2012 #23

this place isn't too far from where i live.. frylock Oct 2012 #31

A t-rex?? Now that right there is worth a stop. cbayer Oct 2012 #32

Unless it's hungry... longship Oct 2012 #35

I'm glad that he took that position. cbayer Oct 2012 #39

it is quite the sight to behold! frylock Oct 2012 #44

I'm going to put this on the list for our road trip this spring. cbayer Oct 2012 #45

This says a lot more about the atheists than the creationists ChillZilla Oct 2012 #36

It's kind of like the Fundies' okasha Oct 2012 #38

The issue for me is the denial of science and the impact that has on kids. cbayer Oct 2012 #40

It looks to me okasha Oct 2012 #41

The problem is protesting it isn't going to change that ButterflyBlood Oct 2012 #48

Please read further in the thread. Mariana Oct 2012 #43

Well, in this case, they *are* wrong. longship Oct 2012 #47

This says a lot more about the atheists than the creationists AlbertCat Oct 2012 #58

I did a spit take after reading this at the link. Lint Head Oct 2012 #53