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dimbear

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18. OT vs Torah........

Fri Sep 14, 2012, 04:45 AM

Sep 2012

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Just as a matter of general interest, there are actually very few differences. The Christians reordered the books so as to end with Malachi, which they consider to prefigure Christ, and changed a few verses here and there to the same purpose but otherwise they are pretty much alike.

After all, the OT was added to the Christian canon to add weight and majesty. Much alteration would have been suspect and detracted from that purpose.

The Jews adapted the Christian system of notation for verses to simplify interdenominational disputation. The similarity is so great that it's not unheard of for Jewish intellectuals to cite the KJV.

*Later: should have mentioned the books divide a little differently. Trifle. Also should have mentioned that the Torah is just part of the Hebrew scriptures.

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Chief Rabbi Lord Sacks and Richard Dawkins debate deity [View all] rug Sep 2012 OP

I read about this earlier. Apparently things got somewhat heated. cbayer Sep 2012 #1

"christian atheists" and "jewish atheists" WTF? mike_c Sep 2012 #2

This is how I understand it. cbayer Sep 2012 #5

Bull... rexcat Sep 2012 #6

OT vs Torah........ dimbear Sep 2012 #18

So Dawkins should not point out that the God of the OT edhopper Sep 2012 #20

Where did I say I agreed with the Rabbi? cbayer Sep 2012 #21

I am atheist coming from a Jewish perspective. edhopper Sep 2012 #22

Thanks for the clarification. cbayer Sep 2012 #23

Here's 3 short video clips covering the same part of the debate. Jim__ Sep 2012 #3

I'm sure the entire "debate" will soon be up on You Tube HarveyDarkey Sep 2012 #17

Talk is cheap... rexcat Sep 2012 #4

Maybe I should listen more to that bit of advice from SJG. 2ndAmForComputers Sep 2012 #7

He doesn't call Dawkins anti-semitic, he says the passage is antisemitic. Jim__ Sep 2012 #8

Suuuuuuure. 2ndAmForComputers Sep 2012 #9

Sacks explicitly makes that statement. Jim__ Sep 2012 #11

Really????????? rexcat Sep 2012 #12

No, actually, it's not the same thing. Jim__ Sep 2012 #19

Do you prefer the objectivity of Pharyngula? rug Sep 2012 #10

I would just prefer objectivity... rexcat Sep 2012 #13

I think he just wanted to snipe at P.Z. Myers. onager Sep 2012 #14

No, PZ's too busy feuding with Thunderfoot. rug Sep 2012 #15

More like... rexcat Sep 2012 #16

RD and RS Yesspam Sep 2012 #24

If this is spam it is the Picasso of spam. rug Sep 2012 #25

I was thinking more along the lines of Salvador Dali. cbayer Sep 2012 #26

what a bunch of nonsense davidb19766 Sep 2012 #27

What a bunch Yesspam Sep 2012 #28

I hope you will post often. Welcome to our little circle of friends. n/t dimbear Sep 2012 #29

I agree and disagree here Meshuga Mar 2013 #30