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ollie10

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152. Thank you!

Tue Mar 27, 2018, 11:45 AM

Mar 2018

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Your post will likely fall on deaf ears though, because they are unaware of the contempt, divisiveness and intolerance they display just as they seek to ridicule others for their perceived contempt, divisivenss and intolerance.

It is tribalism. Those who attack the other side are convinced they are right and the other side is wrong. Nobody looks in a mirror, it seems.

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Questions that atheists can provide no good answer for: [View all] guillaumeb Mar 2018 OP

No. There is no creator. MineralMan Mar 2018 #1

Nicely illustrating my premise. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #2

God's first name is Howard. thewhollytoast Mar 2018 #45

Your premise is half-baked. How do theists answer? dchill Mar 2018 #55

Hey, MineralMan PJMcK Mar 2018 #73

I think God was created by man and the Bible written by man similar to our constitution meadowlark5 Mar 2018 #227

Well, that's almost certainly true of all deities. MineralMan Mar 2018 #235

In my little pea brain, deities were created Ferrets are Cool Apr 2018 #276

Why can't we all just get along? Glamrock Mar 2018 #3

If we did, there would be no need for this site. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #4

Hahahaha Glamrock Mar 2018 #6

Agreed. We might agree on most issues. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #8

Why do you feel the need to push your belief onto others? Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #27

You gotta wonder if it's because religionists often aren't very certain and hope dawg day Mar 2018 #78

The reason most give is they are required to per Jesus in the bible. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2018 #85

He primarily gave the charge to the disciples. sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #102

The Great Commission, Matthew 28 : 18-20 Mariana Mar 2018 #126

Guilty as charged. I have a proclivity in that I can be a sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #98

Additionally, now I'm conflicted as to what I do believe and so gotta go check. sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #100

What? guillaumeb Mar 2018 #141

why can't this be a deep philosophical discussion WhiteTara Mar 2018 #30

My bone to pick with this unbridled strife is... yallerdawg Mar 2018 #59

there are Christians and there are xtians WhiteTara Mar 2018 #62

I agree with that. marylandblue Mar 2018 #64

And yet you're just fine with Lordquinton Mar 2018 #66

I do not step all over Atheist's posts. yallerdawg Mar 2018 #67

AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH Lordquinton Mar 2018 #70

Lying for the Lord. nt. Mariana Mar 2018 #76

Where does Yallerdawg do this? guillaumeb Mar 2018 #148

Don't even try Lordquinton Mar 2018 #208

I thought as much. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #214

Another no substance post Lordquinton Mar 2018 #257

Your title is ironic. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #258

Irony, like literary criticism, are mysteries to you Lordquinton Mar 2018 #259

You insult me again, and claim to be the victim? guillaumeb Mar 2018 #260

Stating facts are not insults Lordquinton Mar 2018 #272

More insults, which are I believe a violation of the TOS. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #273

Done with you Lordquinton Mar 2018 #274

You might try actual dialogue, and cease insulting theists. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #281

QED Lordquinton Apr 2018 #283

Thank you! ollie10 Mar 2018 #152

All of life is choosing. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #142

Petty minds. Igel Mar 2018 #41

I'm an atheist, and I have a perfect idea of what a creator would look like, Croney Mar 2018 #5

The only thing not perfect about this response is that your post number is 660, not 666. CrispyQ Mar 2018 #29

Not sure what you mean by non theist but I'm an atheist Farmer-Rick Mar 2018 #7

I understand your point, guillaumeb Mar 2018 #10

All due respect, that's not 'how logic works', my friend ... mr_lebowski Mar 2018 #32

God's 'location' is everywhere. Beartracks Mar 2018 #57

Um, "the force" is a fictional creation in a syfy tale, as is the concept of "god". nt procon Mar 2018 #165

you have a provable basis? WhiteTara Mar 2018 #33

Faith and proof are different concepts. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #144

you must be bored today. WhiteTara Mar 2018 #145

Never bored. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #147

I'm not sure what you mean Farmer-Rick Mar 2018 #113

If a concept isn't defined, then it can't exist marylandblue Mar 2018 #9

So relativity did not exist prior to the 20th century? guillaumeb Mar 2018 #11

The concept could be defined, only nobody had bothered to marylandblue Mar 2018 #14

I don't know if Gil's Creator is undefinable. Mariana Mar 2018 #20

I would say such a Creator probably doesn't exist marylandblue Mar 2018 #23

Personally I believe that the Universe has simply always existed ... mr_lebowski Mar 2018 #49

Well all evidence is that time started with the Big Bang marylandblue Mar 2018 #53

Imagine that there's been infinity 'big bangs' and you'll get where I'm going ... mr_lebowski Mar 2018 #61

It's possible the universe is oscillating marylandblue Mar 2018 #63

Also think it MAY be possible that we are simply missing a piece of the equation ... mr_lebowski Mar 2018 #71

The Big Bang is the current theory. ... spin Mar 2018 #106

Hello mary land blue, sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #97

I'm not Marylandblue, but I would reconsider. Mariana Mar 2018 #117

It's all good! 🤗 sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #122

Yes I would reconsider marylandblue Mar 2018 #120

Okay then. A thought 'tho. sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #121

Parousia. That's a new one to me, I had to look it up. marylandblue Mar 2018 #137

The 'Parousia' is specifically the Second Coming. sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #138

If all of experience is "our own brains generating thoughts", guillaumeb Mar 2018 #146

That is one interpretation, but it is not mine nt marylandblue Mar 2018 #150

It is clearly a tactical argument. Voltaire2 Mar 2018 #74

Well, then there's Galileo, who used the term himself. longship Mar 2018 #68

I think your premise is flawed. Here are examples. Lint Head Mar 2018 #12

What specifically are you looking for? guillaumeb Mar 2018 #13

we are looking for some impact edhopper Mar 2018 #16

You might have found none. Others have. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #143

I have been asking for years for edhopper Mar 2018 #151

You are asking for evidence that you will accept. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #153

So others have not seen edhopper Mar 2018 #156

I cannot speak for these others. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #158

so the answer to this, edhopper Mar 2018 #173

What form could the Creator take? Major Nikon Mar 2018 #25

A few months ago I was a passenger in a car full of people driving through Denver. CrispyQ Mar 2018 #31

Ramen! opiate69 Mar 2018 #51

Actually we do the opposite marylandblue Mar 2018 #34

That is simply a dishonest argument. Voltaire2 Mar 2018 #37

Gil is a very unusual sort of Christian. Mariana Mar 2018 #79

My guess is, it's more deceitful than that. trotsky Mar 2018 #118

You're probably right about the nature of Gil's Christianity. Mariana Mar 2018 #139

We don't need to have an idea of those things about a creator edhopper Mar 2018 #15

the bible says god looks like a human male, human males being created in his own image and all msongs Mar 2018 #17

God let Moses look at his backside Mariana Mar 2018 #21

Yeah, remember that time when God mooned Moses? MineralMan Mar 2018 #140

The question religion can't answer is who created the creator? Binkie The Clown Mar 2018 #18

Atheism is not an answer. It's the rejection of an answer Major Nikon Mar 2018 #28

Another question religionists fail to answer is why did they choose their one particular god Binkie The Clown Mar 2018 #38

Some religionists are exclusionists while others are not Major Nikon Mar 2018 #42

I practice exclusionistic religion. sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #99

By "eternal fall down go boom" do you mean Mariana Mar 2018 #124

Separation from God. sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #127

Thank you. Mariana Mar 2018 #132

The answer is quite simple hueymahl Mar 2018 #198

Ah, so the creator IS a turtle after all! Binkie The Clown Mar 2018 #200

Turtles all the way down hueymahl Mar 2018 #206

How is this still an issue? OneBro Mar 2018 #19

"What should we do, and what should we believe?" yallerdawg Mar 2018 #22

You don't need a god to have a purpose marylandblue Mar 2018 #36

Certainly correct in a biological sense. yallerdawg Mar 2018 #40

Correct we have no more purpose than an amoeba marylandblue Mar 2018 #43

And there you have it. yallerdawg Mar 2018 #46

What question? marylandblue Mar 2018 #48

I think I have an assumption and expection of a Creator. sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #103

Well, Sartre would say-- dawg day Mar 2018 #80

What would Kierkegaard say? yallerdawg Mar 2018 #81

He would say it's between you and God marylandblue Mar 2018 #87

-- Bertrand Russell, 1952 Major Nikon Mar 2018 #24

I love his writing. What an intellect. Voltaire2 Mar 2018 #75

Nature elleng Mar 2018 #26

Neither side has proof of their belief. gibraltar72 Mar 2018 #35

Logic and reason give consistently useful results. Mumbling prayers gives no results. Binkie The Clown Mar 2018 #39

Gandhi? MLK? yallerdawg Mar 2018 #52

okay, you choose to believe- dawg day Mar 2018 #82

You are compelled to comment for some reason. yallerdawg Mar 2018 #84

Not only that, only one side requires belief as a condition Major Nikon Mar 2018 #88

If it exists, it probably looks like this: MineralMan Mar 2018 #44

I love that movie. thucythucy Apr 2018 #278

Yes. It's one of my favorite's too. MineralMan Apr 2018 #279

You put this bee in my bonnet thucythucy Apr 2018 #284

I have seen no proof Angry Dragon Mar 2018 #47

Your first question is a non-sequitur randr Mar 2018 #50

Alpha to Omega MaryMagdaline Mar 2018 #54

Infinity CrispyQ Mar 2018 #229

Thank you. I look forward to checking out the site MaryMagdaline Mar 2018 #249

This is why I'm agnostic. I tend to think that staunch atheists are the other side of the Neema Mar 2018 #56

Equating atheists to fundamentalists doesn't really have much merit Major Nikon Mar 2018 #89

I have relatives who are staunch atheists and think anyone religious or agnostic is a total Neema Mar 2018 #90

Not surprising to have either relatives or close friends that are going to impose such expectations Major Nikon Mar 2018 #91

I'm only speaking in personal terms. Absolutes from anyone bother me. Neema Mar 2018 #95

Politics and religion tend to be sensitive topics for a lot of folks Major Nikon Mar 2018 #110

Your relatives are assholes. Mariana Mar 2018 #92

Actually they're not assholes, even though I don't agree with their absolutism. Neema Mar 2018 #96

I apologize for rude, ugly, unexpected comments you get here in the Religion forum. yallerdawg Mar 2018 #112

LOL. No worries. Neema Mar 2018 #114

"Irony" has found a home here! yallerdawg Mar 2018 #116

Sorry you don't get to apologize for me... uriel1972 Mar 2018 #271

They think anyone who is religious is a total idiot Mariana Mar 2018 #119

There is no belief edhopper Mar 2018 #93

Maybe that's how you think. Neema Mar 2018 #94

Okay edhopper Mar 2018 #107

I appreciate that. Neema Mar 2018 #115

'Mysteries'. I like that you hit on that term. 🙂 sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #123

Thanks. Neema Mar 2018 #125

No hippy dippy. I think in a 'spiritual' manner. 🤗 sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #128

I left the kitchen table premises and returned to say this: sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #131

It's wonderful to see so many Pastafarians are members nocoincidences Mar 2018 #58

I myself maintain that there's no proof either way Downtown Hound Mar 2018 #60

I have to agree your premise. Butterflylady Mar 2018 #65

I just say tazkcmo Mar 2018 #72

Funny, that's the top of the lit of "Questions that theists can provide no good answer for" Lordquinton Mar 2018 #69

Also why does that description of the creator end up so different - dawg day Mar 2018 #83

If this book is wrong on literally every point Lordquinton Mar 2018 #204

"So what's a description of the creator? You claim one exists, so you should have an idea." trotsky Mar 2018 #109

Simple questions are brutal opression Lordquinton Mar 2018 #203

Sorry, that doesn't make sense dawg day Mar 2018 #77

I see the Creator in the bluebirds that come and feed daily. sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #104

Do you see the creator in a deer that's killed in a forest fire? Or in a child dying of cancer? CrispyQ Mar 2018 #233

Yes, I do. I see sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #240

If God created everything, didn't God also create evil? -nt CrispyQ Mar 2018 #241

Yes, and that deity admitted that, too, as recorded in Isaiah. MineralMan Mar 2018 #242

The life given to us should be considered as a whole. sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #243

You talk in riddles. CrispyQ Mar 2018 #263

Your opening salvo is flawed TlalocW Mar 2018 #86

The creator does exist! Kablooie Mar 2018 #101

Actually, we know exactly what "the Creator" looks like ExciteBike66 Mar 2018 #105

Not only that He hates the same people you do Major Nikon Mar 2018 #111

Man created God to control woman. -nt CrispyQ Mar 2018 #130

LMFAO trotsky Mar 2018 #108

Magic is an easy answer for everything. JNelson6563 Mar 2018 #129

trying to comprehend the universe rownesheck Mar 2018 #133

My opinion.... BigOleDummy Mar 2018 #134

But then ..... BigOleDummy Mar 2018 #135

All are a reflection of the Creator. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #149

Soooooooooo......... BigOleDummy Mar 2018 #159

Uhhh, theists can't provide a good answer for that question either. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2018 #136

They can provide a personal, non-provable, answer. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #155

But an answer isn't required for a question that you made up. trotsky Mar 2018 #162

Question no good theist has an answer for exboyfil Mar 2018 #154

Faith versus science. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #157

Says the guy presenting a religious answer to a scientific question in his OP. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2018 #160

So the faith Christian Dominionists is equally as valid as yours. trotsky Mar 2018 #163

Yeah, arguing with me about my "beliefs" SonofDonald Mar 2018 #161

The OP claims to understand the thing he calls the Creator. Mariana Mar 2018 #166

There is loads of evidence that prove gods DO NOT exist.. BigRig Mar 2018 #164

The evidence disproves nothing. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #167

If you understood this position marylandblue Mar 2018 #169

I do not dismiss the point, guillaumeb Mar 2018 #171

Of course not marylandblue Mar 2018 #174

Say someone walks up to you and tells you that they can fly using nothing BigRig Mar 2018 #170

We are not arguing about proven science. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #172

The most significant evidence against gods... trotsky Mar 2018 #168

If no gods existed, then we wouldn't expect there to be a universe at all, would we? DanTex Mar 2018 #175

Why? edhopper Mar 2018 #180

Because it would be simpler, and there would be no reason to believe otherwise. DanTex Mar 2018 #183

We simply don have enough knowledge edhopper Mar 2018 #185

That's true. But even when we do. DanTex Mar 2018 #191

I think you have made edhopper Mar 2018 #223

There is no purely physical explanation for the existence of anything at all, including physics. DanTex Mar 2018 #224

I understand that edhopper Mar 2018 #226

I am speculating that without a higher power, nothing would be the default, yes. DanTex Mar 2018 #228

yes, nobody knows, edhopper Mar 2018 #231

But it's also speculation that the existence of a universe without a higher power is even possible. DanTex Mar 2018 #232

And then we have to ask edhopper Mar 2018 #234

Yes, of course. So there's no satisfactory answer there either. DanTex Mar 2018 #236

People used to have a problem imagining edhopper Mar 2018 #237

Yes, I enjoyed the discussion too, and I get your viewpoint also. Thanks. DanTex Mar 2018 #238

All solutions start with the existence of the universe marylandblue Mar 2018 #187

I'm not saying that it proves the existence of god. DanTex Mar 2018 #193

"is most definitely not the state of affairs that anyone would expect if there were no god" trotsky Mar 2018 #230

How is it simpler with god(s) in the mix? Mariana Mar 2018 #190

I'm not sure if it's simpler or not. DanTex Mar 2018 #192

Logically, we don't know if there should be a universe. Mariana Mar 2018 #194

Well, at the very least there's no logical reason why there should be. DanTex Mar 2018 #197

You appear to be engaging in the logical fallacy Mariana Mar 2018 #209

I don't think so, but maybe. DanTex Mar 2018 #225

Interesting, this question was ignored Lordquinton Mar 2018 #199

How on earth does that logically follow? trotsky Mar 2018 #186

I didn't say "can", I said "expect". DanTex Mar 2018 #188

"If there were just nothing... what I would expect is for there to just be nothing else." trotsky Mar 2018 #189

A god or a creator... tonedevil Mar 2018 #256

This OP is amazing SCantiGOP Mar 2018 #176

Thats the basis of all mythology Major Nikon Mar 2018 #211

No, that it not the thesis. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #212

Your argument is an obvious appeal to ignorance fallacy Major Nikon Mar 2018 #216

So if I accept your thesis SCantiGOP Mar 2018 #217

Please elaborate pandr32 Mar 2018 #177

Ancient Questions Progressive2020 Mar 2018 #178

Why must you have an answer? Cary Mar 2018 #179

You're on to something, if I might say so myself. sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #181

I make no definitive statement Cary Mar 2018 #184

Whatever works for you. sprinkleeninow Mar 2018 #205

Since gods are made up, yes, a god can be anything you want. trotsky Mar 2018 #196

I don't understand why people don't understand metaphor Cary Mar 2018 #207

Simplicity. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #210

You are certainly entitled to your view, no matter how wrong it may be. trotsky Mar 2018 #222

non-believers don't insist on literalism marylandblue Mar 2018 #218

But when I insist on metaphor they invariably change the subject Cary Mar 2018 #245

What is the metaphorical meaning of the genocide in the book of Joshua? marylandblue Mar 2018 #246

That is hardly the only atrocity in the Bible. Cary Mar 2018 #250

Hint: it's not the nonbelievers engaging in the behavior I described. trotsky Mar 2018 #221

And yet, here you are, in this very post Mariana Mar 2018 #215

Except I'm not Cary Mar 2018 #220

Yeah, you did. trotsky Mar 2018 #239

What difference does it make? Cary Mar 2018 #244

It was a declarative statement. trotsky Mar 2018 #247

Nonsense. Cary Mar 2018 #251

I quoted you. That's how I know what you think. trotsky Mar 2018 #252

You're being rude Cary Mar 2018 #254

I'm being rude by repeating your quote? trotsky Mar 2018 #261

I can do many things Cary Mar 2018 #262

Alright, sorry I asked you to defend your statement. n/t trotsky Mar 2018 #264

That's not what you should apologize for. Cary Mar 2018 #265

What you should apologize for is deliberately missing my point. Cary Mar 2018 #266

Once again, I quoted you. trotsky Mar 2018 #267

So you respond to being deliberately obtuse Cary Mar 2018 #268

And you double down on the insults against me. trotsky Mar 2018 #269

Part 2 trotsky Mar 2018 #248

This came up again, and I wanted to reply again! ExciteBike66 Mar 2018 #182

Who said there are no dumb questions? Curmudgeoness Mar 2018 #195

Who created to the creator? Jayster84 Mar 2018 #201

Ask the Creator. guillaumeb Mar 2018 #213

No matter was lying around marylandblue Mar 2018 #219

Betsy DeVos is smiling Freethinker65 Mar 2018 #202

We are the Creator! sdfernando Mar 2018 #253

The only creator(s)that I know of are mom & dad YOHABLO Mar 2018 #255

Gosh how ignorant... uriel1972 Mar 2018 #270

Which creator? Thor? There have been thousands. lindysalsagal Apr 2018 #275

You've become the Black Knight in "Monty Python & the Holy Grail" Freelancer Apr 2018 #277

Well, it depends what you mean by a "good" answer. thucythucy Apr 2018 #280

Happy Easter to you and yours also. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #282