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struggle4progress

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37. Of course, it is entirely plausible that there are other inhabitable planets in our universe
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 03:41 AM
Jul 2015

and that life has evolved elsewhere

I can't see why that should affect my religious views. Schweitzer wants to go on record declaring this response as nonsense, by referring (say) to the trial of Galileo. I find Schweitzer's understandings of culture, history and religion limited

The trial of Galileo, now four centuries ago, can perhaps best be understood as part of the Counter-Reformation -- that is, the official Catholic reaction to the Protestant Reformation which had begun a century earlier. By Galileo's era, nobody who wanted to do astronomical calculations doubted the computational usefulness of the Copernican scheme, compared to the Ptolemaic scheme, and even the Church's own astronomers were happy to utilize the Copernican view when they needed to work out astronomical questions, as (for example) in the case of the Gregorian calendrical reform. Galileo's real crime, for that time, was his challenge to Papal authority:his famous Dialogue put official Catholic views in the mouth of "Simplicio," which suggested to diverse folk that Galileo was calling them simpletons

Nowadays, of course, we say that the annual parallax of some stars can be observed; and from this we conclude that the heliocentric view has been established. But the critical observations were only made two centuries after Galileo, the technology being inadequate in his time; and therefore the parallax argument could not be thrown at those who wanted to use Biblical-literalist arguments against Galileo in order to consolidate Papal power. It is certainly true that church history is riddled with such power-struggles, waged in theological terms; but not all theological thinking is motivated by such crass struggles


Earth 2.0: Bad News for God [View all] cbayer Jul 2015 OP
That might be the opinion of some TexasProgresive Jul 2015 #1
I think your take is valid and legitimate. cbayer Jul 2015 #2
The Tao that is spoken of safeinOhio Jul 2015 #3
I wish I had the insights that you share. cbayer Jul 2015 #4
Student of the Tao Te Ching safeinOhio Jul 2015 #12
I first ran into to taoism at a time that it meant a great deal to me. cbayer Jul 2015 #16
Easy, short read. safeinOhio Jul 2015 #18
Thanks, safe. I will obtain one. cbayer Jul 2015 #19
In other words: Act_of_Reparation Jul 2015 #5
Yay, RELIGION!!! n/t trotsky Jul 2015 #6
But it's a perfectly valid position, trotsky. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2015 #8
I am reminded of last year's debate between Ken Ham and Bill Nye pokerfan Jul 2015 #65
Psychologists call that cognitive dissonance. cleanhippie Jul 2015 #9
Not asking you to defend what you say at all. But just consider the following variation. trotsky Jul 2015 #10
but science (knowledge) AlbertCat Jul 2015 #25
I guess that's my 4 years of H.S. Latin TexasProgresive Jul 2015 #27
See?! Latin just confuses people! AlbertCat Jul 2015 #30
I didn't realize until years later TexasProgresive Jul 2015 #34
Agree that studying Latin gives one a leg up in vocabulary. No Vested Interest Jul 2015 #56
I took 3 years of French in HS as well TexasProgresive Jul 2015 #57
Bad news for some versions of God... TreasonousBastard Jul 2015 #7
I tend to agree with your take. cbayer Jul 2015 #11
Primarily agnostic now? AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #15
not too difficult to imagine a planet or solar system having its own spiritual plane AlbertCat Jul 2015 #28
wow that is amazing. Warren Stupidity Jul 2015 #32
Yep, bad news indeed. TygrBright Jul 2015 #13
Good points. cbayer Jul 2015 #17
Not too bad. Hope your summer's proceeding enjoyably? n/t TygrBright Jul 2015 #22
We are alone. Leontius Jul 2015 #35
I'm not convinced. cbayer Jul 2015 #38
Is there even a single piece of empirical evidence for the existence of any life outside of Earth? Leontius Jul 2015 #39
Not yet, but the Scientific Method is being used to try and find that out if that is true... cleanhippie Jul 2015 #42
Ah that smell of fear Leontius Jul 2015 #46
If that's what you smell, you should check your pants. cleanhippie Jul 2015 #47
Care to answer that question about your god? n/t trotsky Jul 2015 #48
No problem. Absolutely no confirmed empirical evidence for the existence for God that meets Leontius Jul 2015 #58
You could really just put a period after the word "God" right there, couldn't you? n/t trotsky Jul 2015 #60
I'll be frank and say that it is speculation, but speculation that is based on one fact... Humanist_Activist Jul 2015 #50
Short answer, no evidence. Leontius Jul 2015 #59
Translation: I put my fingers in my ears and can't hear you. cleanhippie Jul 2015 #62
There's that smell again. Leontius Jul 2015 #67
It's probably all the BS you post. cleanhippie Jul 2015 #69
Yet. Humanist_Activist Jul 2015 #68
Yes. Lordquinton Jul 2015 #70
If you believe God is a "being" who is "out there" somewhere.... AlbertCat Jul 2015 #26
Wait till the religionistas decide its Eden. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #14
Coming to SyFy in December 2015 Angry Dragon Jul 2015 #20
Previews look.... Disappointing. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #23
Srsly? That would be GREAT! We could ship them along to it. n/t TygrBright Jul 2015 #21
Hmm. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #24
Now there is an Ark project... NeoGreen Jul 2015 #63
Especially since it didn't work out too good in the book. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #64
Schweitzer employs the same "Biblical literalist" thinking that he might deride in others. guillaumeb Jul 2015 #29
Are you kidding me? Act_of_Reparation Jul 2015 #36
And what of Schweitzer and his fondness for the straw man debate technique? guillaumeb Jul 2015 #40
It is obvious Schweitzer is referring to a particular subset of believers. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2015 #41
Schweitzer himself did not make that distinction in the article. guillaumeb Jul 2015 #52
Yes, he does. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2015 #55
Your point does not refute what I said. guillaumeb Jul 2015 #66
Exploded? Faulty premise. opiate69 Jul 2015 #43
As a non-scientist, I will try to condense your explanation and respond. guillaumeb Jul 2015 #53
let's assume that your god created the universe from "nothing". Warren Stupidity Jul 2015 #61
Yeah, I always have to laugh about these kind of articles goldent Jul 2015 #44
The author believes, without proof, that there is no deity. guillaumeb Jul 2015 #54
The literalists will simply deny the evidence. drm604 Jul 2015 #31
For a man with a Phd he's rather ignorant Leontius Jul 2015 #33
Unfortunately a lot of people with PhDs say silly things goldent Jul 2015 #45
Of course, it is entirely plausible that there are other inhabitable planets in our universe struggle4progress Jul 2015 #37
Even a literal reading of the Bible doesn't necessarily preclude life existing elsewhere... Humanist_Activist Jul 2015 #49
Drake Equation lapfog_1 Jul 2015 #51
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