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No Vested Interest

(5,157 posts)
1. It doesn't matter to whom you are giving aid and comfort.
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:49 PM
Jan 2014

You believe what you believe regardless of where others fall in their own beliefs or unbeliefs.
It's nobody else's business and there is no right or wrong in belief if it is sincerely formed and held.

It doesn't matter to whom you are giving aid and comfort. No Vested Interest Jan 2014 #1
I wouldn't call it immoral. Iggo Jan 2014 #2
Beliefs do not make us immoral. Actions do. nt Deep13 Jan 2014 #3
Simply by believing, no. trotsky Jan 2014 #4
This is an argument often made around here and I think it's entirely bogus. cbayer Jan 2014 #5
Often, eh? trotsky Jan 2014 #6
Believers are often edhopper Jan 2014 #8
Believers that frequent DU often do take on the extremists who share in name their cbayer Jan 2014 #15
That is true edhopper Jan 2014 #17
It's not a false statement. It is merely a matter of what you read and how you read it. cbayer Jan 2014 #19
Wow. trotsky Jan 2014 #20
No, he is saying that it does happen, Fortinbras Armstrong Jan 2014 #64
If you go to Church and give them money edhopper Jan 2014 #71
You are wrong. trotsky Jan 2014 #74
Thank you for showing that I am correct Fortinbras Armstrong Feb 2014 #88
Well, I did show that evidently you don't care to read what I wrote. trotsky Feb 2014 #99
I said Fortinbras Armstrong Feb 2014 #114
because this edhopper Feb 2014 #116
So we were talking past each other. Fortinbras Armstrong Feb 2014 #124
appears so. edhopper Feb 2014 #126
If you don't see the difference between... trotsky Feb 2014 #134
Oh, I understand the difference quite well Fortinbras Armstrong Feb 2014 #136
Depends on what gets lumped into those categories. n/t trotsky Feb 2014 #137
It depends DonCoquixote Feb 2014 #104
I believe your reply to me is mistaken. trotsky Feb 2014 #105
OK DonCoquixote Feb 2014 #110
Doubling down huh? edhopper Jan 2014 #21
Doubling down? How so? cbayer Jan 2014 #22
You claimed that what he said edhopper Jan 2014 #28
I should have been more specific as I was referring to the aiding and abetting bit. cbayer Jan 2014 #35
And he has been challenges to back it up as well. edhopper Jan 2014 #49
And I retracted the "often" bit. cbayer Jan 2014 #52
I will ask once again edhopper Jan 2014 #53
No one has claimed that. I was responding to the aiding bit, cbayer Jan 2014 #58
Which is not what the OP was asking edhopper Jan 2014 #62
Lol. I had forgotten who you were, cbayer Jan 2014 #65
So now the atheist on this forum are edhopper Jan 2014 #68
I didn't say that, you did. cbayer Jan 2014 #69
What contradictory evidence do you have edhopper Jan 2014 #70
You started threads on all these topics and received a very diverse set of responses cbayer Jan 2014 #72
the view that God edhopper Jan 2014 #73
I have no evidence that god either exists or does not exist, as we have cbayer Jan 2014 #75
you'll have to pardon me edhopper Jan 2014 #81
One last thing, then I will leave you alone. cbayer Jan 2014 #67
I've pondered why you think a link to that post somehow supports your position... trotsky Feb 2014 #106
I have been accused by people here of giving the religious right. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #23
I know, so have I. cbayer Jan 2014 #24
Do you like my avatar and sig line? hrmjustin Jan 2014 #25
I do indeed. cbayer Jan 2014 #30
He is running against grimm and I think he is good. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #31
Perhaps you would be willing to provide more details? trotsky Jan 2014 #26
What do you want to know? hrmjustin Jan 2014 #32
How about starting with what exactly it is you think you've been accused of? n/t trotsky Jan 2014 #33
I have been accused of not standing up against the Bastardization of my religion. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #36
Episcopalian, yes? AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #37
Yes. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #38
Hm. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #39
That I don't stand up enough against the right wing enough. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #41
Did you dismiss such injuries with 'deal with it' or similar language? AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #43
I don't make light of people who have been harmed by people who follow my religion. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #44
OK, you realize that's not the same as what was said in the OP or claimed by cbayer, right? n/t trotsky Jan 2014 #40
I disagree. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #42
Care to explain? n/t trotsky Jan 2014 #45
I have been accused of sitting on my high horse and not getting my hands dirty. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #46
Have you been accused of being immoral edhopper Jan 2014 #50
I was responding to cbayer's point. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #51
Which is OT to what the OP edhopper Jan 2014 #54
Mypoint wS only that I have been accused of not standing up to conservative Christians. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #56
I get that, edhopper Jan 2014 #57
I have never been accused of being immoral here. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #59
Yes, edhopper Jan 2014 #60
I do as well. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #61
No, what I asked you to explain is how that is equivalent to the statement that... trotsky Jan 2014 #63
None of what you just said supports your initial claim. trotsky Jan 2014 #18
Seriously? skepticscott Jan 2014 #66
I was having a discussion here Htom Sirveaux Jan 2014 #76
Yeah, I know. It happens. cbayer Jan 2014 #77
And you know what, cbayer? trotsky Feb 2014 #98
You are not responsible for the intolerance of others. Starboard Tack Jan 2014 #7
You zre giving no comfort to them. I believe in the same tenets of death and resurrection as them hrmjustin Jan 2014 #9
You changes your avatar edhopper Jan 2014 #11
That is the flag and shield of the Episcopal Church. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #12
okay edhopper Jan 2014 #13
I love your sig line and agree 100%. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #14
Thanks edhopper Jan 2014 #16
In reading this again edhopper Jan 2014 #10
Nobody I know of said those exact words, no. Htom Sirveaux Jan 2014 #78
I can only answer for myself edhopper Jan 2014 #80
I feel that transcendental Christianity is similar to parts of Fundamentalism. Brettongarcia Feb 2014 #135
There's no creator, trans or otherwise. broiles Jan 2014 #27
So does the mere belief in the imaginary edhopper Jan 2014 #29
If you believe that the imaginary being is ordering you to do bad things. Brettongarcia Feb 2014 #117
Yes edhopper Feb 2014 #118
What do I support? Strictly speaking, a liberal and/or transcendental "belief" might seem harmless. Brettongarcia Feb 2014 #128
No. LeftishBrit Jan 2014 #34
No Gothmog Jan 2014 #47
Agree with the latter. edhopper Jan 2014 #55
I take issue with your wording in the poll. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #48
I don't think any of the Bible Htom Sirveaux Jan 2014 #79
What aspect of the world is unexplainable in principle skepticscott Jan 2014 #82
The mixture of change and stability our universe exhibits. Htom Sirveaux Jan 2014 #83
Which is merely an argument skepticscott Feb 2014 #86
"Arising" implies a beginning. "Eternal" means no beginning, therefore no arising. Htom Sirveaux Feb 2014 #87
If "god" could be eternal skepticscott Feb 2014 #89
Mathematics of Eternity Prove The Universe Must Have Had A Beginning Jim__ Feb 2014 #92
And...? skepticscott Feb 2014 #93
And, for one thing, they do talk about prior to the Big Bang. Jim__ Feb 2014 #96
If the universe was eternal, Htom Sirveaux Feb 2014 #94
And your proof of that is….? skepticscott Feb 2014 #101
Correct, and the creator is indeed unchanging. Htom Sirveaux Feb 2014 #102
If the creator is eternal skepticscott Feb 2014 #103
Or the creator is always creating, so no shift needed. Htom Sirveaux Feb 2014 #127
Yet another invention by you skepticscott Feb 2014 #131
What would qualify as evidence for you? Htom Sirveaux Feb 2014 #132
Crusader: sounds good. Even Liberal Christianity supports Fundies, Evangelicals, indirectly Brettongarcia Feb 2014 #90
Fundamentalists read liberal theology and transcendentalists as backing them? Htom Sirveaux Feb 2014 #95
Many fundies dislike "liberals." But as long as one "acknowledges" "God," or "Christ," then ... Brettongarcia Feb 2014 #97
"Many fundies read liberal theology... okasha Feb 2014 #107
Certainly backing them to the point that even lib theology affirms the fundamentals: "God" exists Brettongarcia Feb 2014 #108
Not quite. okasha Feb 2014 #109
I'm citing lots of sources; including academic ones. Why don't YOU find some citations? Brettongarcia Feb 2014 #112
Interesting. okasha Feb 2014 #113
Philosophy and religion have some overlap; cosmology, ethics/morality, and so forth. I do both. Brettongarcia Feb 2014 #115
You should be well aware skepticscott Feb 2014 #122
Most think the Bible stresses blind "faith." But I say the Bible finally backs evidence, "science" Brettongarcia Feb 2014 #123
Even fundies, but also other Xstians skepticscott Feb 2014 #125
Good observation: to me the Bible backs Science, even OVER traditional belief Brettongarcia Feb 2014 #129
Well, Jesus also said skepticscott Feb 2014 #130
Reading the Bible? Watch the double meanings/semantics. Cf. "Bless those who curse you." Brettongarcia Feb 2014 #133
You're mistaken, not immoral... MellowDem Jan 2014 #84
Words can certainly change meanings. Htom Sirveaux Jan 2014 #85
You are certainly not being immoral Meshuga Feb 2014 #91
That's one reason why the idea of God inspiring a book is problematic. Htom Sirveaux Feb 2014 #100
By transcendent, do you mean WhiteTara Feb 2014 #111
I'd say that liberal Christianity has SOME usefulness; a balance between conservatives & Reason? Brettongarcia Feb 2014 #119
And if Liberal Christianity edhopper Feb 2014 #120
Agreed. I am most sympathetic to a Liberal Christianity that leans most toward reason Brettongarcia Feb 2014 #121
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