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zalinda

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34. I am only an authority on what I have experienced as a woman.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 12:34 PM
Apr 2016

I have faced sexism for over 50 years and for the last 15 years both sexism and ageism.

In the late 60's I worked in a fruit juice plant. I was one of three white people who worked in that building. The cafeteria was in another building where the office workers worked. You had to buy meal tickets from the receptionist. The reason? The cafeteria workers were black. I don't remember any other black employee in that cafeteria, although I pretty much kept my head down. The people in the fruit juice plant? The men ate their lunch outside, even in the below zero weather. The women ate in the coat room which was joined to the ladies restroom by a larger than average door. After my first encounter with the cafeteria, I ate in the coat room with the other women.

I don't think I ever had a conversation with my boss after he hired me. I just saw him through a glass wall. The plant supervisor was a racist, although I'm sure he didn't think of himself as one. He would stop by and talk to me all the time. The guy who really ran the plant was this older black guy. If he didn't show up, I think that the plant would have shut down. He ran the machinery. He knew exactly how much sugar to add to the fruit and when it was just ready to can. We talked all the time. He had worked there for 25 years, and yet I was making a dollar more an hour as a new hire than he had been making after 25 years. It was depressing as hell working there and I didn't last long, as the women in the coat room told me. They said I was too kind hearted, that I wouldn't last long, they were right.

That was blatant racism, and it was okay with most of them, even those who were oppressed, because at least they had a job.

I could tell you about the jobs I didn't get because I was a woman, or the unequal pay or even the weird rule that men could smoke at their desks, but women couldn't. And yes, women had to wear skirts, even up to 15 years ago at some companies. How I couldn't get a credit card, because I was a woman. And, I'm fat. Do you know how cruel people can be to fat people? They may hide other isms, but not fatism. They will go right up to you and tell you that you are fat and to go on a diet.

How, even now, I'm targeted as an easy mark for auto service, actually for any service. After all, don't you know, all old people have tons of money to spare.

When I see if I can help a situation, I help. I helped a young man who had learning problems, figure out how to put the money in for a new style of paid shopping carts. His mother thanked me and I thought who could be nasty to a sweet kid like this. When we talk about isms, there are all kinds of isms around. I observe people and what they do and say. I try to make the day better for others when I can.

All I'm saying is pick your fights. If you don't, you will exhaust yourself. It's taken me a long time to come to terms with myself. I did not get the genetic lottery, but I'm still worthy of respect.

Z

Hope for DU's sake they were just the RW trolls who've been using DU like a playground blm Apr 2016 #1
no, i dont think any of them were trolls. I think people just assume that white people La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #4
That sickens me, La. blm Apr 2016 #5
i am pretty sure they would all tell you that this had nothing to do with race La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #6
I understand…. blm Apr 2016 #10
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I only do that so there is less reason to hide what I say, as that is happening a lot to me lately Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #28
That's understood. The Polack MSgt Apr 2016 #35
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Trump's campaign just proves The Polack MSgt Apr 2016 #37
That's a great point... OneGrassRoot May 2016 #43
You have to put that caveat in there because "offended" MADem May 2016 #46
I've always know racist white liberals. The 2008 Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2016 #7
Oh gods, do I ever remember that. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2016 #8
.. La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #9
You weren't at all. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2016 #11
I missed all of that- but know you well enough to trust it happened as you say- my friend. bettyellen May 2016 #39
I believe you JustAnotherGen Apr 2016 #12
Just the other day I was told yuiyoshida Apr 2016 #13
To tell you the truth, I don't know who any one is. zalinda Apr 2016 #14
Thank you so much for this important and incredibly relevant contribution to the conversation Number23 Apr 2016 #18
and this related to what i said how? La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #21
No every one is the same. zalinda Apr 2016 #22
so you're answer to my issue, it to let it go? La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #23
You were talking about the Internet. zalinda Apr 2016 #24
how do you none exists? were you in my shoes? La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #25
I am only an authority on what I have experienced as a woman. zalinda Apr 2016 #34
Group Host - Please Step Away from This thread JustAnotherGen Apr 2016 #32
For me it wasn't DU, but my first job. TygrBright Apr 2016 #15
Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #27
As I just explained to another here, if you dont couch it that way (that cant be the right Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #31
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May I offer ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #29
K&R ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #17
I am sorry :-( etherealtruth Apr 2016 #19
Language and attitude HassleCat Apr 2016 #26
The whole Ferguson episode woke this white male to white privilege gordianot Apr 2016 #30
The Prop 8 fight on DU was illuminating to me. kwassa Apr 2016 #38
there is a thread on Malia Obama going to Harvard when she starts college JI7 May 2016 #40
It's hard when you think blacks are not as intelligent La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #41
That's so true MrScorpio May 2016 #42
How could white liberals be racist if they voted for Obama? YoungDemCA May 2016 #44
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