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lovemydog

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83. I've wondered about that myself too.

Mon Sep 14, 2015, 11:38 PM

Sep 2015

The kindest conclusion I can reach is that the ones who aren't listening are on cell phones, jacked up on double espressos. They never read more than a headline of an original post before spouting off their jibber jabber.

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From Alternet/Salon - "Black voters aren’t feeling the Bern" [View all] Number23 Sep 2015 OP

The speech at Liberty has really frustrated me... Agschmid Sep 2015 #1

"I'm frustrated and not really sure what I think right now." Number23 Sep 2015 #5

Yup. Agschmid Sep 2015 #16

And ignoring them fixes that how? (nt) jeff47 Sep 2015 #11

I don't ignore them... Agschmid Sep 2015 #15

There's basically two ways to fight them jeff47 Sep 2015 #21

Yes it is an oversimplification but I do understand what you are saying... Agschmid Sep 2015 #34

If you shrink the next generation of "foot soldiers" jeff47 Sep 2015 #40

Bernie went there to say: cer7711 Sep 2015 #73

"Politics is about reaching out to more than your own most fervid, narrow constituency." Tarheel_Dem Sep 2015 #87

You've lost me. cer7711 Sep 2015 #100

No need to "re-examine". I've been here for over a decade, so I know exactly who BS "supporters"... Tarheel_Dem Sep 2015 #116

I know this: I'm saddened and bitterly disappointed . . . cer7711 Sep 2015 #118

The answer to your last question is yes. I know this because she hasn't spent the last 8 years.... Tarheel_Dem Sep 2015 #123

Thank you for your reply. cer7711 Sep 2015 #125

FYI: I'll pass on your links to Thom Hartmann, I despise him even more than I do BS. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2015 #135

Ah! Well . . . :::hugs::: cer7711 Sep 2015 #144

To win elections, you need to appeal to more than your base thesquanderer Sep 2015 #75

Someone had to de-brainwash these kids Gore1FL Sep 2015 #81

I'm continuously amused and surprised by Sander's supporters defense on this here. stevenleser Sep 2015 #93

Yes--you have been VILIFIED here for going on Fauxsnooze and telling them to fuck themselves -- and MADem Sep 2015 #108

They invited President Obama and he didn't go.. and he's not afraid to go "into any Lion's Den".. Cha Sep 2015 #129

This has been, and will be the problem for the Sanders campaign GitRDun Sep 2015 #2

Alot of his supporters have been trying to tell black people what to think, see and believe for Number23 Sep 2015 #8

Perfectly put nt MrScorpio Sep 2015 #82

A similar response of mine has just been hidden in this very forum. Number23 Sep 2015 #88

Gah. Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #126

And another 4-3, I see. nt SusanCalvin Sep 2015 #140

SPOT on!!!! nt MADem Sep 2015 #110

Man, I would love to have a link to that post: scarletwoman Sep 2015 #12

I read that earlier. Control-Z Sep 2015 #37

Several posters have said this to me, in a variety of ways. kwassa Sep 2015 #43

It starts here. GitRDun Sep 2015 #49

There's quite a bit of pushback by Sanders supporters in the Cornell West brush Sep 2015 #14

Because hating Obama JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #19

It's weird to me brush Sep 2015 #29

irony: black people keep telling you that not all black people dislike West noiretextatique Sep 2015 #45

To each his own, but I'm willing to bet that way more AAs despise West brush Sep 2015 #48

sanders up from 6% to 14% among likely black voters, since June noiretextatique Sep 2015 #50

Link please brush Sep 2015 #54

Doesn't compute does it? n/t Tarheel_Dem Sep 2015 #89

So does Bernie appeal to black voters? underthematrix Sep 2015 #64

No one has said that "All black people dislike West". We say that black people overwhelmingly stevenleser Sep 2015 #95

Or as that poster said yesterday... "Black people buy into the fairy tale that is Pres Obama.." Cha Sep 2015 #133

You nailed it JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #134

West's words are "repugnant". Bernie evidently is fine with him attacking our President with Cha Sep 2015 #138

"as if his long-standing trashing of the President and dislike by many in the black community means Number23 Sep 2015 #25

Totally agree. West is going to be like and anchor around Bernie's neck demosincebirth Sep 2015 #30

And, he asked for it. Cha Sep 2015 #132

Riddle Me This - Why Would A Female Ex Republican Be Preferred Over Bonafide Civil Rights Activist cantbeserious Sep 2015 #3

Your premise is flawed... Agschmid Sep 2015 #4

Read the article. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #6

Are you talking about Elizabeth Warren? Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #7

Who was a Republican even as Hillary Clinton was FLOTUS Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #41

I like her positions now, but I still find that shocking. Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #51

That's one of the reasons that if someone was and is needed to run to Hillary's left Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #56

100% agree Number23 Sep 2015 #59

And I think for good reasons, the party didn't want to run two women at the same time. Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #85

Warren is the anti-Reagan 6chars Sep 2015 #124

Let me guess... Sanders supporter?? Number23 Sep 2015 #10

Yeah... Agschmid Sep 2015 #18

Probably for the same reason Elizabeth Warren was preferred at one time. HRC was 17. EW was..... Tarheel_Dem Sep 2015 #91

Liz Warren isn't running. nt MADem Sep 2015 #112

I got 5 bucks says this gets alerted on. zappaman Sep 2015 #9

It if is, then this place is even more gone than we imagined. Number23 Sep 2015 #13

Oh it will be! JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #22

Hey everything we type in here is already racist! Why not add in some other shit in for flavor??! Number23 Sep 2015 #67

I ain't takin' that bet. Cha Sep 2015 #130

Uh....He still polls at around 40-50% "don't know him at all". jeff47 Sep 2015 #17

Um..I believe that is the first is not one of the first two points that the article even ATTEMPTS to Number23 Sep 2015 #20

Yes. That's my point. By ignoring that half of the relevant voters jeff47 Sep 2015 #23

Look, stop pretending that point wasn't raised and raised extremely clearly. Number23 Sep 2015 #24

It was raised in two paragraphs, which are quotes from Sanders supporters jeff47 Sep 2015 #28

It does NOT ignore it. If anyone is ignoring anything it is you with your attempts to minimize Number23 Sep 2015 #32

Could you point to where they consider it in their analysis? jeff47 Sep 2015 #35

How about this...Why don't you take off your fighting gloves with me and the universe and actually Number23 Sep 2015 #38

And maybe you could too, and realize I'm asking about the conclusion they draw jeff47 Sep 2015 #46

What does it say about BS that so many AA's don't know him & his alledged "Civil Rights Activist"... Tarheel_Dem Sep 2015 #92

That's the whole point of this entire discussion. I don't understand why some are working so hard Number23 Sep 2015 #96

FWIW... I saw my first Bernie bumper sticker today. DCBob Sep 2015 #26

I sent a note about his visit to Atlanta to my family, friends, sorors and former workmates Number23 Sep 2015 #27

I'm going to see him, and all the other candidates speak on Saturday. Agschmid Sep 2015 #31

Would you mind giving a report? Contrary to the ravings of people that don't post in this forum Number23 Sep 2015 #33

Yes, its a 8-hour event and it looks like a WHOLE LOT of people will be there. Agschmid Sep 2015 #36

Thanks Agschmid. sheshe2 Sep 2015 #72

Please post if you can lunasun Sep 2015 #78

Thanks. lovemydog Sep 2015 #122

Echoing the requests for your to post your thoughts. Thanks! Number23 Sep 2015 #142

I was feeling more positive about him today tishaLA Sep 2015 #39

Considering the number of times he's said Obama should face a primary opponent Number23 Sep 2015 #42

He's hoping no one remembers him saying that. The Obama coalition should be reminded early & often. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2015 #94

Here's Obama VS Sanders on the "Obama Coalition".. Cha Sep 2015 #131

So, BS is a big old liar? Who knew? That one clip brings everything into clear focus. Thanks. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2015 #136

Yep, BS is out there lying about President Obama. Unreal. It's documented and thankfully the Cha Sep 2015 #139

Well... Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #44

So you still think that Sanders is in it for reasons other to win? That he's making some sort of Number23 Sep 2015 #57

Most of Sanders' campaign staff Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #98

This message was self-deleted by its author Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #99

Holy Christ on a cracker... BAR is MAD at Cornell for endorsing Bernie Sanders???!!! Number23 Sep 2015 #111

Number 23, I LOVES IT when nice white progressive Bernie Sanders supporters Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #117

I'm there with you JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #149

I knew that the socialists didn't like Sanders but this is a whole 'nother kettle of fish right here Number23 Sep 2015 #151

OK, getting back to your question Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #103

I do. I think he's in it in an attempt to move Clinton left. PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #146

I wonder if that's changed now. If he genuinely believes that he can win now??? Number23 Sep 2015 #147

Only he and those closest to him know that for sure. I imagine good crowds are invigorating. PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #148

I could have typed your post myself it aligns so much with how I feel as well Number23 Sep 2015 #150

The only really relevant number in this is how Black voters haven't heard of him Exultant Democracy Sep 2015 #47

you missed the relevant number: Sanders has gained among Black voters noiretextatique Sep 2015 #53

We'll add your analysis to the ones from the academics, authors and journalists in this OP Number23 Sep 2015 #55

I read this someplace here. sheshe2 Sep 2015 #79

I know. It doesn't make even the tiniest shred of common sense. Number23 Sep 2015 #113

Yup. sheshe2 Sep 2015 #115

Your version of common sense is directly opposed to logic apparently Exultant Democracy Sep 2015 #120

And you sound so incredibly angry. I really don't know why. Number23 Sep 2015 #141

Sounds like a false dichotomy that could only makes sense to someone grasping as straws Exultant Democracy Sep 2015 #119

per the article, Sanders gained 8 points among likely black voters since June noiretextatique Sep 2015 #52

From going to beyond horrible to not quite almost as beyond horrible, and that's good enough huh? Number23 Sep 2015 #58

can you post on this subject with hyperbole? noiretextatique Sep 2015 #60

WITH hyperbole? Most definitely. Number23 Sep 2015 #61

great...thanks noiretextatique Sep 2015 #62

I did an edit. If you're interested Number23 Sep 2015 #63

Doubling his numbers with the name recognition he has is rather amazing Exultant Democracy Sep 2015 #121

The lack of name recognition he has despite his decades in Congress is what's amazing Number23 Sep 2015 #143

"The lack of name recognition he has despite his decades in Congress is what's amazing" Tarheel_Dem Sep 2015 #145

I hear you, and it's a good point. lovemydog Sep 2015 #77

Some are, some aren't. Warpy Sep 2015 #65

This is an ANALYSIS. It has nothing to do with lockstep. It is a current analysis of where a large Number23 Sep 2015 #69

Agree. It's not stupid at all. lovemydog Sep 2015 #80

"P.S. You're one of the smartest posters at DU!!!" Number23 Sep 2015 #90

Reminds me of a joke. lovemydog Sep 2015 #101

The Special Olympics holds a place near and dear to my heart Number23 Sep 2015 #106

If Cornel West isn't a sign libodem Sep 2015 #66

Preach. Number23 Sep 2015 #70

No Doubt libodem Sep 2015 #76

+1111111! Cha Sep 2015 #127

An outsiders view: Bernie from VERMONT???! .... 4139 Sep 2015 #68

All I can say with regard to some Bernie supporters is SusanCalvin Sep 2015 #71

Neither do I, Susan. Number23 Sep 2015 #74

I've wondered about that myself too. lovemydog Sep 2015 #83

That and the knee-jerk reactions nt MrScorpio Sep 2015 #84

i think some white people think Hillary lost Black Support in 2008 because they grew to hate her JI7 Sep 2015 #86

That is an incredibly interesting point. Number23 Sep 2015 #97

Most of my friends moved from HRC to BHO gwheezie Sep 2015 #105

Let's add that Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #109

Great points JI7! lovemydog Sep 2015 #102

I totally agree MrScorpio Sep 2015 #137

" they don't just come up when they need something from them during election time" Amen and Amen uponit7771 Sep 2015 #152

I think it's the "you people" thing. You know, "You people don't understand what I'm saying, here." MADem Sep 2015 #104

If Cornell does turn on him, PLEASE forget to tell me about it! Number23 Sep 2015 #107

"But if Sanders has been fighting for the civil rights of black people for decades, how come lunamagica Sep 2015 #114

"But if Sanders has been fighting for the civil rights of black people for decades, how come so few Cha Sep 2015 #128

That video shows my biggest problem with Sanders mindset about government; they're either ignorant uponit7771 Sep 2015 #153

"In the end I feel some of his supporters will just blame black folks if Sanders has to step aside" Number23 Sep 2015 #154