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94. DU is like The Taming of the Shrew, Act IV, Scene 5:
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 09:30 PM
Aug 2015

Last edited Sat Aug 15, 2015, 02:03 AM - Edit history (1)

Enter PETRUCHIO, KATHERINA, HORTENSIO, and SERVANTS

* Petruchio. Come on, a God's name; once more toward our father's.
Good Lord, how bright and goodly shines the moon!

* Katherina. The moon? The sun! It is not moonlight now.

* Petruchio. I say it is the moon that shines so bright.

* Katherina. I know it is the sun that shines so bright.

* Petruchio. Now by my mother's son, and that's myself,
It shall be moon, or star, or what I list,
Or ere I journey to your father's house.

Go on and fetch our horses back again.
Evermore cross'd and cross'd; nothing but cross'd!


* Hortensio. Say as he says, or we shall never go.

* Katherina. Forward, I pray, since we have come so far,
And be it moon, or sun, or what you please;
And if you please to call it a rush-candle,
Henceforth I vow it shall be so for me.


* Petruchio. I say it is the moon.

* Katherina. I know it is the moon.

* Petruchio. Nay, then you lie; it is the blessed sun.

* Katherina. Then, God be bless'd, it is the blessed sun;
But sun it is not, when you say it is not;
And the moon changes even as your mind.
What you will have it nam'd, even that it is,
And so it shall be so for Katherine.


* Hortensio. Petruchio, go thy ways, the field is won.

* Petruchio. Well, forward, forward! thus the bowl should run,
And not unluckily against the bias.
But, soft! Company is coming here.

[Enter VINCENTIO]
[To VINCENTIO] Good-morrow, gentle mistress; where away?
Tell me, sweet Kate, and tell me truly too,
Hast thou beheld a fresher gentlewoman?
Such war of white and red within her cheeks!
What stars do spangle heaven with such beauty
As those two eyes become that heavenly face?
Fair lovely maid, once more good day to thee.
Sweet Kate, embrace her for her beauty's sake.


* Hortensio. 'A will make the man mad, to make a woman of him.

* Katherina. Young budding virgin, fair and fresh and sweet,
Whither away, or where is thy abode?
Happy the parents of so fair a child;
Happier the man whom favourable stars
Allots thee for his lovely bed-fellow.


* Petruchio. Why, how now, Kate, I hope thou art not mad!
This is a man, old, wrinkled, faded, withered,
And not a maiden, as thou sayst he is.


* Katherina. Pardon, old father, my mistaking eyes,
That have been so bedazzled with the... sun?
That everything I look on seemeth green;
Now I perceive thou art a reverend father.
Pardon, I pray thee, for my mad mistaking.


* Petruchio. Do, good old grandsire, and withal make known
Which way thou travellest- if along with us,
We shall be joyful of thy company.


* Vincentio. Fair sir, and you my merry mistress,
That with your strange encounter much amaz'd me,
My name is call'd Vincentio, my dwelling Pisa,
And bound I am to Padua, there to visit
A son of mine, which long I have not seen.

* Petruchio. What is his name?

* Vincentio. Lucentio, gentle sir.

* Petruchio. Happily met; the happier for thy son.
And now by law, as well as reverend age,
I may entitle thee my loving father:
The sister to my wife, this gentlewoman,
Thy son by this hath married. Wonder not,
Nor be not grieved- she is of good esteem,
Her dowry wealthy, and of worthy birth;
Beside, so qualified as may beseem
The spouse of any noble gentleman.
Let me embrace with old Vincentio;
And wander we to see thy honest son,
Who will of thy arrival be full joyous.


* Vincentio. But is this true; or is it else your pleasure,
Like pleasant travellers, to break a jest
Upon the company you overtake?

* Hortensio. I do assure thee, father, so it is.

* Petruchio. Come, go along, and see the truth hereof;
For our first merriment hath made thee jealous.


Exeunt all but HORTENSIO

* Hortensio. Well, Petruchio, this has put me in heart.
Have to my widow; and if she be froward,
Then hast thou taught Hortensio to be untoward.

Exeunt.

We're being trained. We have to ask:'Mother, May I?' before we post anything.

i know I'm new here and all retrowire Aug 2015 #1
Welcome my friend. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #2
i figured that out retrowire Aug 2015 #3
That's why the push back yesterday JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #9
in solidarity. nt retrowire Aug 2015 #10
Some of us ARE crazy, the rest are just tired of the craziness Demeter Aug 2015 #34
what adds salt to the wound is DonCoquixote Aug 2015 #17
Well said! Spazito Aug 2015 #18
Perfectly spot on. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #20
This a 1000 times over blackspade Aug 2015 #48
It is really weird how he wasn't even guilty and he was accused. MADem Aug 2015 #101
I was just on a jury regarding this poster because of his admission of having been banned... Spazito Aug 2015 #112
I was going to say "7 is the best juror of the lot!!!" MADem Aug 2015 #113
The poster has been banned for the third, at least, time... Spazito Aug 2015 #117
I know--I'm glad too, and thank you to Skinner, for that--it is appreciated. nt MADem Aug 2015 #118
Apparently the post that was hidden was pre-edit. Chemisse Aug 2015 #142
I was stunned by that JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #4
Check out post 101--follow the link and you're in for a shock. MADem Aug 2015 #102
AverageGuy was nuked after that post. Chemisse Aug 2015 #141
K&R. If you dare question a sacred cow, you get alert stalked. nt stevenleser Aug 2015 #5
The behavior has the duel whammy of being totalitarian and pusillanimous. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #6
Geez... Spazito Aug 2015 #7
That was fucking atrocious. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #8
A spiteful human being JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #12
They are gleeful at shutting down Black posters Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #13
I guess I'm thinking JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #14
I can picture it. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #15
I'm betting there is a nexus. I hope the admins are looking at it. MADem Aug 2015 #121
I hope so too. It seems intentional and very toxic. Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #123
Oh no! gollygee Aug 2015 #11
Horrible. This place is crazy sometimes. SonderWoman Aug 2015 #16
or say you're an ally Quayblue Aug 2015 #19
Skinner, hear this DonCoquixote Aug 2015 #21
This was well said! JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #25
Yes. Skidmore Aug 2015 #82
+ a million Number23 Aug 2015 #83
Absolutely right. Bobbie Jo Aug 2015 #98
Pls repost in AtA Flying Squirrel Aug 2015 #136
+1 uponit7771 Aug 2015 #139
That shitshow resulted in a hide? JackInGreen Aug 2015 #22
I'm often contrary it not sometimes inquisitive - yet I co-sign this post! JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #27
Some aren't going to be happy until every black voice sufrommich Aug 2015 #23
I think we can leave the candidates themselves out of this discussion.... blackspade Aug 2015 #51
It's not just limited to that. arithia Aug 2015 #81
"Some aren't going to be happy until they have the power to silence discussion about racism, period. Number23 Aug 2015 #85
... Flying Squirrel Aug 2015 #137
I frequently disagree with that poster navarth Aug 2015 #24
And, even in our disagreements ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #50
+1000 blackspade Aug 2015 #52
seems you touched a nerve... onpatrol98 Aug 2015 #66
o snap JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #69
I sincerely hope that you're not making reference to my post navarth Aug 2015 #105
I was addressing 1Strong. onpatrol98 Aug 2015 #106
thank you for the clarification navarth Aug 2015 #110
I don not disagree that the potential for dishonest arguments exist navarth Aug 2015 #79
Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #108
Very well navarth Aug 2015 #111
I realize it's rarely accurate to use "always" or "never"; but ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #114
For me it's not so much a question of 'accuracy' navarth Aug 2015 #128
Okay ... I'm back ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #115
Confused here.... navarth Aug 2015 #129
I will see that and raise you DonCoquixote Aug 2015 #104
1SBM is a powerful and desperately needed voice in DU Half-Century Man Aug 2015 #26
I missed the Hamden Rice kerfuffle but I can say with one hundred percent certainty... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #32
The jurors who voted for that hide should be PPR'd. SunSeeker Aug 2015 #28
THAT was one of the pettiest moves Bobbie Jo Aug 2015 #29
This is an anonymous message board. gordianot Aug 2015 #30
I've always respected 1StrongBlackMan. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #31
Add giftedgirl77 to the list Bobbie Jo Aug 2015 #33
Just like with Bravenak, both hides were done very late at night and early morning... Spazito Aug 2015 #38
That's bullshit. zappaman Aug 2015 #44
And I suspect ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #54
How do they manage to stack the juries? blackspade Aug 2015 #57
I think it is jury shopping... Spazito Aug 2015 #71
Wow, that makes alert stalking even shittier that I already thought it was. blackspade Aug 2015 #72
It's the only way I can see to explain what has been happening... Spazito Aug 2015 #73
All I know is that I'm about done with this place. blackspade Aug 2015 #74
Yes, I find myself feeling the same... Spazito Aug 2015 #75
Roger that. blackspade Aug 2015 #76
I'd love it if the admins could tweak the algorithm.... MADem Aug 2015 #119
I am not sure that would solve the problem... Spazito Aug 2015 #120
Of course they aren't exclusive to one group, but often people who are adherents to one MADem Aug 2015 #122
I am both saddened and frustrated by the changes I see as well... Spazito Aug 2015 #124
+1,000! nt MADem Aug 2015 #125
Wouldnt skinner have noticed if that was going on? cstanleytech Aug 2015 #130
Who knows, I certainly hope he is noticing... Spazito Aug 2015 #131
Ya but if the logs dont support the theory what changes could or should he do? cstanleytech Aug 2015 #132
Look at how juries are working and NOT working... Spazito Aug 2015 #133
Tweaking it how? Back to the old jury system? cstanleytech Aug 2015 #134
If I had all the answers, I would have posted them at ATA... Spazito Aug 2015 #135
Oh wow I just looked at that. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #90
This garbage needs to stop. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #35
K&R BumRushDaShow Aug 2015 #36
It is pusillanimous behavior . It is appalling. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #39
Here's a DU2 thread about it from this forum BumRushDaShow Aug 2015 #46
Exactly. He was banned, what six-seven years ago? And some folks are STILL WHINING ABOUT HIM Number23 Aug 2015 #84
Yup and you can see the pattern as clear as day BumRushDaShow Aug 2015 #86
It's bad enough that Hartmann noticed? SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #89
He posted a link to a video of a portion of his show BumRushDaShow Aug 2015 #91
OK, that's the last straw. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #92
I never thought of that - they were deliberately baiting him . . . JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #40
I maintain that a bunch of them are BumRushDaShow Aug 2015 #47
Or, they spend time at DI ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #53
I wish you hadn't too JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #65
WTF is going on around here!? blackspade Aug 2015 #37
It's outrageous, but not surprising. Sheldon Cooper Aug 2015 #41
He Dared Speak up in yet Another BS Groupthink Thread lib87 Aug 2015 #42
As a Bernie supporter, SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #93
It's Weird to see Here lib87 Aug 2015 #95
Re disclaimer, yep, for real. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #97
I've done it numerous times . Like you said put a disclaimer or your comments can be taken Person 2713 Aug 2015 #103
What is more fucking outrageous is that the post accusing him.... Indydem Aug 2015 #43
Take special note of Jurors 4 and 7 ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #56
Juror 7 Bobbie Jo Aug 2015 #68
Your response to the baiting and stalking in that thread could not have been more on point Number23 Aug 2015 #87
Thank you my friend; but, one correct ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #45
Just when I think it can't go any lower brer cat Aug 2015 #49
DU is like The Taming of the Shrew, Act IV, Scene 5: freshwest Aug 2015 #94
I read the various posts and can only conclude that 1SBM was unfairly accused. guillaumeb Aug 2015 #55
Thank you. I'm pretty slow on the uptake at times ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #58
If you are slow on the uptake it must be only those posts that I have not read. guillaumeb Aug 2015 #62
And ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #70
^THIS^ nt SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #99
When group delusion replaces awareness, Jim Jones leads the flock guillaumeb Aug 2015 #116
DU rec... SidDithers Aug 2015 #59
I don't think Skinner and crew know how to fix it either BumRushDaShow Aug 2015 #61
Yep, the mod model had its issues as well. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #100
IMHO BumRushDaShow Aug 2015 #107
Exactly. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #109
Precisely DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #127
And Indydem just got a hide in the giftedgirl thread BumRushDaShow Aug 2015 #60
Seems to me like some people can't handle 1SBM d_legendary1 Aug 2015 #63
They can't debate him successfully, so they appear to be going for the next best thing. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2015 #64
I will do what I can to, as politely as possible, push back when I see it. GitRDun Aug 2015 #67
That hide was wrong. progressoid Aug 2015 #77
Just when I think DU can't sink any lower, it does. emulatorloo Aug 2015 #78
You are by no means alone. Number23 Aug 2015 #88
This is egregious mcar Aug 2015 #80
What's this about accusing 1StrongBlackMan of being someone besides who he is? I missed Cha Aug 2015 #96
The hidden post was edited, he said, so as not to get a hide. Chemisse Aug 2015 #126
The alert was sent immediately after his post was made... countryjake Aug 2015 #138
Thanks. That makes a LOT more sense. Chemisse Aug 2015 #140
I've been on juries before where posters were goaded into angry replies, countryjake Aug 2015 #143
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