Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: NYC: Empire State Shooting: ALL bystanders were shot by police [View all]graham4anything
(11,464 posts)it sends the topic to areas the NRA people love to argue in- as it distorts from the original thought
it's
the total number of people killed or injured by a gun in the usa
vs.
the number of people of people in the entire USA (or world) that are injured or harmed by a gun or a bullet, regardless of circumstances, and regardless if it is one person shooting themselves accidentally or kids or adults or whatnot.
because most shootings have nothing to do with a crime being committed at all
bullets going astray, accidentally firing, thinking there is a crime but it is a relative in the house, etc.
not to mention all the arguments between friends where a gun makes it fatal (or enemies with grudges like the Empire state shooting).
and YES if you add all the states, those wild west states (like Texas or Arizona or others) will indeed distort the entire USA as there are some cities that have zero killings by gunfire in a criminal case in decades.
and as stated earlier, you have in areas where they take using gun harshly- those criminals who are lifetime criminals do not use guns at all, knowing that their petty crimes will become a major crime with zero tolerance if they had a gun on them when arrested.
so it's a bogus shift of hand really because its not the guns save/criminals use ratio, but the entire scope of guns used that injure or harm all across the country in or not in use during a crime on either side. (and that alone can also include someone accidentally wounding themselves when the gun goes off, or fooling around, or not realizing another bullet is in gun, etc.)