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In reply to the discussion: NYC: Empire State Shooting: ALL bystanders were shot by police [View all]spin
(17,493 posts)93. My S&W Model 642 snub nosed .38 caliber revolver has a trigger pull of about 12 pounds. ...
I don't have the equipment to measure it but according to this excerpt from a review on this weapon:
Frankly, the trigger of any new Airweight is as stiff as a dead carp and cries out for a power assist. Or at least a windlass. Measuring the pull weight is tough since it exceeds the limit of most truck scales, but 200 kilos sounds about right. Thats a total exaggeration of course. Would you believe more than 12 pounds?
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/09/ralph/gun-review-smith-wesson-model-642/
My snubbie is not a easy handgun to shoot and with it's sights it is definitely not a target handgun. But with practice you can rapidly hit a target at a reasonable range such as 21 to 45 feet.
Of course there is a considerable difference between a Glock trigger and the long, heavy but smooth trigger pull on my revolver. The standard Glock trigger was worked fine for me on the weapons I have fired at the range but I only have dry fired a Glock with a New York trigger one time.
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i'm not a gun user, or any manner of expert; but, i agree with your comments.
marasinghe
Aug 2012
#3
Surely you can cite to a Citizen hitting nine bystanders in a self-defense shooting.
PavePusher
Aug 2012
#115
No, they are 100% to blame. They should know their firearm's capabilities and limitations...
Cooley Hurd
Aug 2012
#9
Cops are, by definition, police officers. "Police officer" is a profession.
Cooley Hurd
Aug 2012
#18
Perhaps those 9 victims should ask for a refund from their paid protectors.
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#61
And *you've* forgotten about Virginia Tech, where the killer used "normal sized" clips...
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2012
#91
Like I said, That is why my side is winning the national debate on this issue.
GreenStormCloud
Aug 2012
#98
Sounds like he was either A) professional enough to realize his gun wasn't the answer...
Cooley Hurd
Aug 2012
#52
He should check EVERY possible aspect of his weapon just as I check every possible aspect...
Cooley Hurd
Aug 2012
#65
I was just curious. for the record, I fire a .40. A .22 is too small and a howitzer is too expensive
shadowrider
Aug 2012
#78
I disagree, but I do appreciate your reasoned response without insults or slurs n/t
shadowrider
Aug 2012
#125
Bet they'd lose their heads if someone was shooting at them while they're trying
shadowrider
Aug 2012
#37
Yes, we are trained to do one thing, first and foremost, in ANY emergency...
Cooley Hurd
Aug 2012
#40
And these are professionals. Imagine the carnage if some concealed-carry yahoo started shooting.
DanTex
Aug 2012
#24
LOL. Yeah, the average yahoo gun nut is better trained than the NYPD. Now that was funny!
DanTex
Aug 2012
#31
Please feel free to cite an instance in which a permit holder hit 9 innocent people NT
Trunk Monkey
Aug 2012
#35
There are plenty of instances of permit holders shooting people accidentally (including themselves).
DanTex
Aug 2012
#39
With their fantastic requirements only 1%ers like Donald Trump get carry permits
rDigital
Aug 2012
#76
My S&W Model 642 snub nosed .38 caliber revolver has a trigger pull of about 12 pounds. ...
spin
Aug 2012
#93
"The only mass shooting in NYC yesterday was carried out by those hired to protect it."
OneTenthofOnePercent
Aug 2012
#57
Don't worry. Only the police should have guns cause they've been trained and stuff n/t
shadowrider
Aug 2012
#74
If you're familiar with police firearms training, you'll see that flurry shooting isn't a last
rDigital
Aug 2012
#88
Bloomberg has the NYPD so afraid of guns that the cops don't get trained to use them properly. nt
rDigital
Aug 2012
#90
You are being sarcastic, and it is a good LOL, BUT you are close to the truth I bet...
virginia mountainman
Aug 2012
#95
If you think being a cop is about "enforcing laws" then you just don't get it
Starboard Tack
Aug 2012
#149
Your fucking hero Bloomers walked onto the crime scene shortly after it was secured....
PavePusher
Aug 2012
#118
Training is one factor. Switching from Glocks to double-action/single-action pistols would help.
AnotherMcIntosh
Aug 2012
#126