Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
46. OK, other than
Wed May 30, 2012, 01:34 AM
May 2012

Last edited Wed May 30, 2012, 02:53 AM - Edit history (2)

regurgitating your hero, sure. I don't have time or the inclination for regurgitating in the interest of pomposity (it is evident in your language. You can learn a lot about people not so much what they say but how they say it.) I prefer the original writers speak for themselves.

http://www.saf.org/LawReviews/KleckAndGertz2.htm

I also don't have the time to waste on someone who claims to be interested in debate but spends much of the time making personal attacks and rude condescending remarks. For example:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=422017&mesg_id=422300
one of the few the mods didn't zap. And to think it all started when I questioned your hero's.
The the link in your post was one of the few, perhaps the only, exception.
I asked a simple question, was the situation in the OP improper. Instead of a reasonable answer and rationale you give some defensive nonsense about American Cancer Society. ACS funds research, some to Nobel Prize winners. They also do things like give accurate information about screenings, prevention etc. VPC and Brady? They complain about safety programs and falsely compare Eddie Eagle with Joe Camel. There is no comparison.
As I told another poster, it gives the appearance of some economist getting an award from API after writing climate change denial papers. At the risk of being a bit of a prig, I would not have shown up in that situation.
But of course, as usual, you will whine that I made the whole thing up and make up stupid lies. Even when I provide links and proof you still whine because you don't like having your assumptions challenged.

As for your fact free "you accept Kleck because he tells you what you want to hear" and "those are the only criminologists you heard of" is total bullshit. I'm guessing you are pretty selective in what academic lit. you read yourself. Assuming you actually read it. I think you accept what is supposed to be the "liberal" position without much critical thought behind it. You make baseless assumptions about me.



Yes, as long as there's full disclosure to everyone concerned, elleng May 2012 #1
but is it science? gejohnston May 2012 #2
I think a better question to consider: truedelphi May 2012 #4
You just made my point gejohnston May 2012 #6
Except gun control is not an "industry". There's no profit motive. DanTex May 2012 #8
Those in charge of gun control do have a profit motive. truedelphi May 2012 #9
LOL. Yeah, you better stock up on "guns" to protect you from the "man"... DanTex May 2012 #11
Bears are the #1 threat to America. ellisonz May 2012 #59
you missed the point gejohnston May 2012 #12
How is it different than climate change denialists? DanTex May 2012 #16
you have it backwards gejohnston May 2012 #19
Do you ever say anything that's true? I mean even by accident? DanTex May 2012 #21
what I said was true gejohnston May 2012 #23
As usual, you provide no proof of anything you say. DanTex May 2012 #25
Gee I don't know...... gejohnston May 2012 #26
LOL. I guess this is what passes for backing your statements with proof in pro-gunner land... DanTex May 2012 #27
kind like falsly claiming that gejohnston May 2012 #29
Change of subject to a different false allegation. You lose. DanTex May 2012 #31
nope gejohnston May 2012 #32
Must be fun living in that fantasy world of yours... DanTex May 2012 #34
That was an example and you do know gejohnston May 2012 #35
Finally, something true! DanTex May 2012 #36
your post regurgated something a UK paper said gejohnston May 2012 #37
No, mine was correct! Mine is based on more evidence! DanTex May 2012 #38
fuck if I know gejohnston May 2012 #39
The people in it seem to be in it for political points... krispos42 May 2012 #42
I agree with some of what you said. DanTex May 2012 #43
Oops, forgot about this discussion we were having krispos42 Jun 2012 #61
Interesting comment from you Lurks Often May 2012 #58
And I assume you're equally opposed to scientists working with the American Cancer Society... DanTex May 2012 #3
show me evidence Hemenway is actually valid gejohnston May 2012 #5
LOL. "Evidence that Hemenway is actually valid"? DanTex May 2012 #7
let me repprase that gejohnston May 2012 #10
Now you're doing that thing you always do... make false statements. DanTex May 2012 #14
that is not a false claim gejohnston May 2012 #18
And it continues... No substance. Joyce! Something you made up! Kleck is your hero! DanTex May 2012 #20
as soon as you do gejohnston May 2012 #22
Still waiting for you to make a single substantive point. DanTex May 2012 #24
that would require a long post gejohnston May 2012 #47
... DanTex May 2012 #49
and gejohnston May 2012 #50
LOL! A good job of backing up what you claim! DanTex May 2012 #52
that is the truth gejohnston May 2012 #56
Sometimes patience does not lead to resolution... ellisonz May 2012 #60
OK, other than gejohnston May 2012 #46
Wow, you're linking to something by Gary Kleck! Shocking! DanTex May 2012 #48
really? gejohnston May 2012 #51
Blah blah blah. DanTex May 2012 #55
I suggest you read some older posts gejohnston May 2012 #57
"gun violence charities"? PavePusher May 2012 #13
Yes, that's what right-wingers say about global warming advocacy groups also... DanTex May 2012 #15
I noticed that you did not refute what he said, but chose to play the "right-winger" card friendly_iconoclast May 2012 #40
Well done, thanks! PavePusher May 2012 #54
I refer you back to your own words.... PavePusher May 2012 #53
No - it is absolutely **not** proper. Simo 1939_1940 May 2012 #17
I don't see a problem with an interest group in a particular area honoring a researcher petronius May 2012 #28
Not being a scientist gejohnston May 2012 #30
That's certainly the risk an academic takes in this situation - but a free dinner petronius May 2012 #33
You ask this question ... GeorgeGist May 2012 #41
Please explain gejohnston May 2012 #45
Research on gun control is not really science. Remmah2 May 2012 #44
Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Gun Control & RKBA»Is it proper for a "...»Reply #46