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gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
22. Bullshit
Tue Oct 28, 2014, 03:42 PM
Oct 2014

Last edited Tue Oct 28, 2014, 04:20 PM - Edit history (1)

He is hardly a shill in fact, he is one of the most respected criminologists in the US. His study also got him one of the highest awards in criminology.
Your "chances are" are bullshit and shows your dishonesty.
You don't know what the word "shill" means.
A shill is someone funded by an interest group and makes a study to fit the predetermined conclusions. That describes David Hemenway and Author Kellermann, two of Kleck's critics. Shill does not mean "I don't like the results". In Hemenway's "rebuttal" Hemenway accused the poll workers of falsifying results without any evidence to back him up and ranted some bullshit about flying saucers.
Read his complete CV
http://criminology.fsu.edu/faculty-and-staff/college-faculty/gary-kleck/

In 1993, Kleck won the Michael J. Hindelang Award from the American Society of Criminology for his book Point Blank: Guns and Violence in America (Aldine de Gruyter, 1991)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Kleck

Florida State University Professor Gary Kleck has been named one of the Top 25 criminal justice professors in the country by a leading forensic sciences website.
Joining Kleck on the ForensicsColleges.com list are professors from American University, University of Maryland and Rutgers University.

http://criminology.fsu.edu/news/fsu-criminology-professor-recognized-as-one-of-25-top-criminal-justice-professors/
Shill my ass. Compare that to Hemenway who got a plaque from the Brady Campaign.
a study and department funded by gejohnston Oct 2014 #1
It certainly is an indictment on the US health system hack89 Oct 2014 #2
We planted one of my best friends today. ileus Oct 2014 #4
More proof of why it's only smart to carry. ileus Oct 2014 #3
I'm sure you've seen these before, but for those that haven't... Electric Monk Oct 2014 #5
That's some scary stuff. ileus Oct 2014 #6
one major flaw with that bit of propaganda gejohnston Oct 2014 #7
Erasing deaths Glenn Vardy Oct 2014 #17
That really says it all, doesn't it? beevul Oct 2014 #19
It doesn't matter Glenn Vardy Oct 2014 #28
Let's talk about violence, disease, crime and abuse tied to alcohol. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2014 #79
Kleck Glenn Vardy Oct 2014 #18
kleck dgu interview jimmy the one Oct 2014 #21
actually, it has never been debunked gejohnston Oct 2014 #23
Debunked. Glenn Vardy Oct 2014 #29
so I just debunked support for stricter gun laws gejohnston Oct 2014 #34
Giving someone elses opinion in opinion poll? Glenn Vardy Oct 2014 #39
distinction without a difference gejohnston Oct 2014 #48
So going by your comment here, GGJohn Oct 2014 #36
Common sense says... Glenn Vardy Oct 2014 #44
Thanks for your honesty. GGJohn Oct 2014 #54
Is that a typo? Glenn Vardy Oct 2014 #58
No, not a typo, GGJohn Oct 2014 #61
Too bad *your* boy Philip Cook came up with the same results for DGU's pablo_marmol Oct 2014 #37
Bullshit gejohnston Oct 2014 #22
Ranting bull$h!t? Glenn Vardy Oct 2014 #25
this is the last because gejohnston Oct 2014 #35
"Estimates," not checking validity of claims. Glenn Vardy Oct 2014 #40
He explains it in the actual study and the book gejohnston Oct 2014 #46
Somewhere on the internet? Glenn Vardy Oct 2014 #49
because flatbed scanners don't gejohnston Oct 2014 #50
WHERE'S THE TEXT? Glenn Vardy Oct 2014 #51
yes there were gejohnston Oct 2014 #52
TEXT?????? Glenn Vardy Oct 2014 #53
no he wasn't gejohnston Oct 2014 #56
Still no text. Lol Glenn Vardy Oct 2014 #59
bolded in post 52 gejohnston Oct 2014 #60
Address Hemenway's point. Glenn Vardy Oct 2014 #63
I did gejohnston Oct 2014 #64
"Making up" valid points? Glenn Vardy Oct 2014 #68
where does Kleck say there wasn't? gejohnston Oct 2014 #70
Margin of error = one false claim? Glenn Vardy Oct 2014 #62
ask him gejohnston Oct 2014 #65
"Doesn't like guns?" Glenn Vardy Oct 2014 #73
did you actually read it? gejohnston Oct 2014 #74
Nothing but insults Glenn Vardy Oct 2014 #77
no. He followed the evidence gejohnston Oct 2014 #80
Think about this. Glenn Vardy Oct 2014 #81
think about this gejohnston Oct 2014 #82
The 'appeal to authority' argument. Glenn Vardy Oct 2014 #83
no he hasn't gejohnston Oct 2014 #84
Offensive Gun Uses. Glenn Vardy Oct 2014 #85
No he doesn't gejohnston Oct 2014 #86
YOU said it. Glenn Vardy Nov 2014 #87
No chance of exaggeration or false claims? Glenn Vardy Oct 2014 #26
read the book gejohnston Oct 2014 #33
Honest debate? Glenn Vardy Oct 2014 #41
I am open to honest debate gejohnston Oct 2014 #47
"New" empirical evidence. Glenn Vardy Oct 2014 #55
because gejohnston Oct 2014 #57
Post Script gejohnston Oct 2014 #24
Conflicting "information" from gejohnstone Glenn Vardy Oct 2014 #27
you lied gejohnston Oct 2014 #32
YOU lie. Glenn Vardy Oct 2014 #42
"Scientific?" Glenn Vardy Oct 2014 #30
Oh please gejohnston Oct 2014 #31
Actually, yes, someone did check the claims of DGUs..... S_B_Jackson Oct 2014 #38
THAT poll Glenn Vardy Oct 2014 #43
"Re-interviewed?" Glenn Vardy Oct 2014 #45
debunkings of kleck jimmy the one Oct 2014 #66
complete bullshit gejohnston Oct 2014 #67
the paradigm jimmy the one Oct 2014 #71
he doesn't own any guns gejohnston Oct 2014 #72
Holy outrageous assertion Batman!!! sarisataka Oct 2014 #75
I. think. you. are. lying. jimmy the one Oct 2014 #69
As GE pointed out, weak argument re. self defense pablo_marmol Oct 2014 #8
I've read about 5-10 DGU each week. ileus Oct 2014 #9
Yeah......which means that **many** more are actually taking place. NT pablo_marmol Oct 2014 #10
The only stat that matters is mine, why risk personal safety. ileus Oct 2014 #12
Which is what The Controllers will never comprehend....... pablo_marmol Oct 2014 #13
Self defense does not require you to kill your attacker hack89 Oct 2014 #14
No NO NOOO.....guns only kill people. ileus Oct 2014 #15
gun owners are shooting at people knocking on their front doors without bothering samsingh Oct 2014 #78
True, but there are no cartoons for that out there DonP Oct 2014 #16
But Hack, it just isn't fair... beevul Oct 2014 #20
facts are scary samsingh Oct 2014 #76
Oh goodie......another "study" from the uber-neutral/honest medical establishment! pablo_marmol Oct 2014 #11
All those studies were funded by the Joyce Foundation. acalix Nov 2014 #88
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