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csziggy

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1. We're not sure about our Scottish ancestors
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 08:22 PM
Jan 2012

Because we have not found them actually IN Scotland. They were Stewart/Stuart so of course the lore was that they were poor relatives of the king. But there is no evidence that ties them to any royalty.

Our Stewart ancestor is a bit of a mystery - he supposedly was born in Scotland or Ireland in 1713, showed up in North Carolina and married in 1754, had a slew of kids, then died in either 1812 or maybe 1824!

From my research, I suspect that his ancestors may been Quakers that came from Ireland with another branch of the family (that his daughter married into) in the 1680s to Pennsylvania and then he came with that family to North Carolina in 1753. He could easily NOT be Scottish at all or a generation or two removed from Scotland.

I seriously doubt the 1713 birthdate - that tale came from one grandson who wrote a family history over a hundred years ago and there is no verification for either birth or death date. And even the obituary he quotes for the 1824 death date says that the 111 age is for an in law, not this ancestor, but the grandson claims - with NO VERIFIABLE PROOF - that that was a mistake. And no one has found what newspaper that obituary came out of or found any evidence other than the quote in that book!

Our Stewart does show up in the legal and land records, and census in Chatham County, North Carolina from 1766 through 1811, though it is hard to sort out since there were several Stuarts with the same first name including his own son - whose wife had the same first name as our ancestor.

There is a 1812 record in Georgia for a Stewart with the same first name whose probate was handled by his wife with the same first name. But the alleged 1824 death was in South Carolina and I have no records proving our guy ever lived there, though several of his children did move there, including the daughter who is my ancestor.

So our "Scottish" ancestor may not actually be Scottish!

We're not sure about our Scottish ancestors csziggy Jan 2012 #1
does ancestry.com help un-complicate these things or not? I really wonder... CTyankee Jan 2012 #2
It depends a lot - they do not have much from Scotland csziggy Jan 2012 #3
Thank you for the info. Very helpful. CTyankee Jan 2012 #5
I've got Williams, but way, way back csziggy Jan 2012 #6
My husband's Scottish Ancestors came long before that. kdmorris Jan 2012 #4
Have you looked at the Virginia State Archives online? csziggy Jan 2012 #7
Thanks for Posting Sherman A1 Jan 2012 #8
THe worst thing is that their links do not allow bookmarking csziggy Jan 2012 #11
Don't know if this would help... pipi_k Mar 2012 #15
Ohhhhhh that is awesome! kdmorris Jan 2012 #9
There were later Samuel Clarks and many other Clarks csziggy Jan 2012 #10
A lot of good information. Thanks. AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #30
I'm glad it helped! csziggy May 2012 #32
I went to school with a Samuel Clark in the Mountains of Va. dgibby Mar 2012 #13
WHAT? kdmorris Mar 2012 #19
My Scottish ancestors came prior to about 1750. Not sure how much prior. kestrel91316 Jan 2012 #12
My Scottish ancestors dgibby Mar 2012 #14
I'm not recalling the exact reason why my Scottish family came over The Genealogist Mar 2012 #16
It is interesting. Are your forbears Southerners at all? CTyankee Mar 2012 #17
The Campbell I have is not southern at all as far as I can tell The Genealogist Mar 2012 #18
I don't know about 1790 per se or scots but savannah boomed shortly thereafter. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #52
late to the party ... iverglas May 2012 #20
Thanks. I'm interested in why these Scots went to America, how they secured help to get CTyankee May 2012 #21
googling: scotland emigration 1790 iverglas May 2012 #23
Wow, I'm glad I found you! CTyankee May 2012 #24
almost 100% English iverglas May 2012 #26
oh crap, eh? iverglas May 2012 #22
According to family lore, his wife's name was Sarah... CTyankee May 2012 #25
go play at scotlandspeople! iverglas May 2012 #27
according to tattered family records, his son was named Watt Campbell. Later I was CTyankee May 2012 #28
I wish I knew. I have Scottish ancenstry on my father's side RZM May 2012 #29
A girl once ask me (who was not familiar with the Scot-Irish mix): "What's the difference between AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #31
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lots of good info here--thanks marions ghost Aug 2012 #39
Thanks. I don't understand why we don't have MORE understanding of the Scots experience CTyankee Aug 2012 #40
Somebody could collect some stories of Scottish heritage in America marions ghost Aug 2012 #41
ack CountAllVotes Sep 2012 #42
I have no idea. My mother's mother was a Campbell. She married James Brown in El Paso. CTyankee Sep 2012 #43
Many Campbells and Browns were Indian CountAllVotes Sep 2012 #44
Well, all I have is family lore than our forebear is Alexander Campbell who emigrated to the CTyankee Sep 2012 #45
There was no mention in mine either CountAllVotes Sep 2012 #46
It's really interesting. My son is married to a MacKenzie and somewhere I heard that CTyankee Sep 2012 #47
Some Campbells were indeed Irish CountAllVotes Sep 2012 #48
My father was a Mason, but he was of Welsh heritage, a Williams...can't get more CTyankee Sep 2012 #49
I've got Williams relations too CountAllVotes Sep 2012 #50
I never was really interested in how the Williams side came over. But I should have CTyankee Sep 2012 #51
Thanks for mentioning this -- I hadn't considered the role of the Clearances in my family history htuttle Jun 2013 #53
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