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truedelphi

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18. What I think about quite often:
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 06:00 PM
Nov 2013

Back in the nineteen seventies, we still had real scientists performing real science.

Now we have a ubiquitous revolving door between industry, university and governmental positions. Rarely do American researchers use the International Protocols that define science for researchers in other nations. (If we used those protocols, things would not be so economically rosy for industries like the vaccine industry, or for pesticide manufacturers, or for our pharmaceutical firms.)

When it is announced in the US Mainstream media, that such and such is safe, scientists in foreign countries laugh themselves silly. Is Gm food or Gm seed safe? Why yes, because Mike Taylor proclaimed it to be so! (Circa Clinton era.) Not since the Holy Roman Catholic Church existed to rule medieval Europe have we watched a whole segment of human beings fall into a dark age of "proclamations" making up what passes for and is accepted as, science.

When a "new study" concerning vaccinations came out, and substituted the toxin known as formaldehyde for the toxin known as mercury, it was found that children still became autistic. So how was the result of this study announced, so as to spin it for the best possible result for Big Pharma? Why, the headlines read: Mercury PROVEN "not connected or involved" in being the source of children's autism.

When the massive radiation from Fukushima impacted the Western shores of the USA, how did our government respond under science-enthusiast Obama? He shut down the EPA monitoring stations. Later on, when the same radiation blanketed our food supply, the EPA raised the levels of radiation deemed to be dangerous for public consumption. That way, the radiation-contaminated foods could still be purchased and ingested.

After all, we are number one. WE ARE NUMBER ONE! Yeah! USA!

We rank Number One especially in how many people per capita are incarcerated, and how much money we spend on the military. In fact, we spend more on the military than the next 126 nations in the world combined! And remember, every dollar spent on the military is a dollar less available for classrooms, where people would be learning about statistics, scientific protocols, and about how to determine if the headlines really mean what they say...

Interesting this is almost entirely medically-relevant research ... eppur_se_muova Oct 2013 #1
It is everywhere except the physical sciences, and they make mistakes too. bemildred Oct 2013 #2
What is interesting is that it is a study of the data submitted with the papers intaglio Oct 2013 #3
This was a lot cheaper to do though I'd guess. bemildred Oct 2013 #4
An interesting piece, still I wonder how much context it lacks. HuckleB Oct 2013 #5
Skepticism is good, I think that's the point of the OP. bemildred Oct 2013 #6
To a point. HuckleB Oct 2013 #7
People do disagree. bemildred Oct 2013 #8
Yes, and I'd certainly disagree about your claim here. HuckleB Oct 2013 #10
I know you do. nt bemildred Oct 2013 #11
To be clear: bemildred Oct 2013 #9
I've often thought that a lot of research is flawed due to poorly designed experiments. hedgehog Oct 2013 #12
That is a different can of worms, to me anyway, but yeah. bemildred Oct 2013 #13
Fifty years ago, public funding would have helped. But now a days, the truedelphi Oct 2013 #15
Yeah, it's like the normal career path now. bemildred Oct 2013 #17
Major issue there. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #43
Thank you for posting this. truedelphi Oct 2013 #14
Thank you. As I said, it's a pet peeve of mine. bemildred Oct 2013 #16
What I think about quite often: truedelphi Nov 2013 #18
Question: what International Protocols? reACTIONary Nov 2013 #20
Okay, truedelphi Nov 2013 #44
+1. nt bemildred Nov 2013 #46
Some of that is ok, but the mercury in vaccines still isn't linked to Autism. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #21
I will comment. bemildred Nov 2013 #23
Good points. CanSocDem Nov 2013 #24
Thank you. It is certainly true that we are less healthy than we could be. bemildred Nov 2013 #25
We know what causes HIV. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #27
That's good news about Glaucoma... CanSocDem Nov 2013 #34
I'm not surprised it works for that. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #41
What I'd like is a real Health Industry, not the Disease Industry we have Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2013 #37
Totally with you on the masking of symptoms. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #42
Your comment also, I would think, at applies to the poster upthread as well. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #26
I will be very surprised if autism does not prove to be multi-causal. bemildred Nov 2013 #29
The only reason that mercury in autism is still not linked to mercury is truedelphi Nov 2013 #36
Formaldehyde is natural in your foods. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #38
Sitting here quite grateful as that as of today's date no one like you is truedelphi Nov 2013 #39
I'm a skeptic, no matter what issue you hand me. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #40
+1. nt bemildred Nov 2013 #45
The standards for research & science are much higher now than when the original research was done.nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2013 #19
Bullshit. nt bemildred Nov 2013 #22
There may have also been financial incentive for the failed earlier studies. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #28
I was educated in the 60s, I don't have to research it. bemildred Nov 2013 #30
Ok, that's all you got. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2013 #31
Good argument. nt bemildred Nov 2013 #32
Thank you. nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2013 #33
And they continue to become more stringent over time. HuckleB Nov 2013 #35
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