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seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
5. it is just another saying we have given to men to chuckle at, to feel superior, to be dominant
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 02:00 PM
Jan 2012

to put women in their place, all in the name of a joke. wink wink. but for a decade we have worked so hard at whorifying women that it is no longer a joke and a wink wink, it is becoming their reality.

i dont think many women "get" that.

they have not been paying attention to what is going on around them.... for many reasons.

women broke away from men being dominant in dependence. men are now trying to get that dominance back in this manner.

my husband and i value each other. when we first married i said to him.... i wont try to manipulate you and you dont with me. we are both clever people. we will both see it and we will both get pissed. so lets just not play that game. it has worked well for us. we also base our relationship on altruism. i see it as the most selfish act. i want the best for him. he wants the best for me. in our unselfishness we are selfishly both getting the best.

i dont really care how others perceive me. i can live with this, the relationship i have. but inevitably we will be listening to these men sadly talk about what is going on in their life with their woman, X woman or lack of woman.

it is interesting how all this is manifesting and the number of women allowing themselves to be seabeyond Jan 2012 #1
I agree JustAnotherGen Jan 2012 #2
it is just another saying we have given to men to chuckle at, to feel superior, to be dominant seabeyond Jan 2012 #5
Oooh I agree JustAnotherGen Jan 2012 #6
VS use to be a company about empowering women their sexuality. i use to buy from them. it was fun. seabeyond Jan 2012 #7
We see relationships based on altruism. redqueen Jan 2012 #12
You are correct, as usual, Seabie....I believe that language is powerful whathehell Jan 2012 #22
IMHO the heart of the matter is the power dynamic. Gormy Cuss Jan 2012 #3
That's what I was going to say. redqueen Jan 2012 #4
"A tool. A thing." Gormy Cuss Jan 2012 #8
So true JustAnotherGen Jan 2012 #9
Exactly. redqueen Jan 2012 #10
I didn't know that Norway and Denmark had taken that step...It's wonderful!..n/t whathehell Jan 2012 #23
and how to get women to stop playing their role? iverglas Jan 2012 #14
Here's where I bring a different perspective JustAnotherGen Jan 2012 #17
me too iverglas Jan 2012 #11
Cooperating vs. using (the way I see it) redqueen Jan 2012 #13
heh heh iverglas Jan 2012 #15
you didn't give us a link :( iverglas Jan 2012 #16
That's a good start JustAnotherGen Jan 2012 #18
but I don't want to have to pick my way carefully iverglas Jan 2012 #21
When I was in corporate, I worked with a really wonderful family man. CrispyQ Jan 2012 #19
Well, I am the breadwinner ismnotwasm Jan 2012 #20
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