Into the Fray: Brain dead on the Right?

[shira]

48. You don't know that. It's what Hamas is all about...

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Hamas and Islamic Jihad don't want to simply rule in peace, get jobs for the people, etc. Their main purpose is to attack Israel, and with the rest of the so-called "progressive" world and Arab regimes backing them (hundreds of millions) they believe they have the long-term advantage over tiny Israel. They're not going to stop attacking Israel b/c if they did, they'd cease being Hamas and Islamic Jihad.

What it really comes down to is that you believe that that maintaining the Occupation and continuing to build what you know are illegal settlements in the West Bank(none of which are being built in areas that Israel could ever have more legitimate claim to than Palestine does, btw)are the only possible choices. You think the hard line actually helps.

That's bullshit and not what I believe at all. I'm like most from the moderate left to moderate right, for 2 states so long as it means peace. If there was yet another pullout before peace could be reached, I'm certain Israel's enemies would attack it again & again if given the chance. That said, after turning the keys over to the Palestinians and many wars and thousands of lives later, Israel would just have to re-occupy the territories once again to stop it. So what would be the point of pulling out early if it means having to re-occupy once again? If they don't re-occupy, they'd have to REALLY do so much damage that their neighbors wouldn't dare attack again. These options are worse than the status-quo, so why go there?

So you are automatically going to dismiss any alternative proposals(unless they come from the insane Israeli right...like those crazies you keep quoting who still pretend that "Jordan is the Palestinian state"-something Jordan never has been and could never possibly be), which makes it problematic to carry on any discussion or debate with you at all.

Actually, over 50% of Palestinians support a confederation with Jordan post-occupation.
http://www.pcpsr.org/survey/polls/2013/p48e.html

Are they rightwing crazies? Apparently, everyone who doesn't agree with Ken Burch is a rightwing crazy.

And, in fact, it often appears that your only reason for posting here is to try to badger or demonize anybody who disagrees with you into ceasing to post.

That's what you do, assigning the worst motives and viewpoints to your opponents here.

All I ask for here is an honest debate. It's about time you're being honest now about your views on free speech and favoring regressive, anti-liberal dictators and tyrants over western democracies. It only took years to pull that out of you.