Israel/Palestine
In reply to the discussion: Into the Fray: Brain dead on the Right? [View all]shira
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Pelsar and I believe that at the very least, freedom of speech/expression must be allowed in such a "democracy", first and foremost. From there, more will follow.
I believe personally in the Attaturk model, along with freedom of speech.
You have nothing to offer seculars/progressives in such totalitarian regimes. You favor elected tyrants, like Chavez for example. No freedom of speech/dissent, etc. Chavez not only defended but supported the regimes in N.Korea, Iran, Burma, Syria, and Libya under Gaddafi - by far the worst of the worst countries when it comes to human rights.
You're for Palestinian nationalism first and foremost, without progressive values. And like Iran and Gaza, you and yours will do nothing to see that progressive values are promoted in such a society. You will all continue to bash liberal western "capitalist" democracies while defending totalitarian regimes.
Let's face it, you're for a socialist tyranny in the W.Bank once the occupation ends. You couldn't care less about peace either as your position is pro-war. In case you forget, Israel cannot force the Palestinians to make peace, and Israel shouldn't be expected to end the occupation before a peace deal is made. Because if that's what you want - occupation ending before peace - that's what you'll get - WAR.
I swear I cannot tell the difference b/w your position and that of the most extreme fascist Rightwingers. Nazi Germany was socialist too, so why not support them? It appears you favor such regimes. The USSR under Stalin, Germany under Hitler, China under Mao, Cambodia under Pol Pot. This is what you want for Palestine too. If elected by the people, and if they are socialist nations then you're for it...
Where am I wrong?