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In reply to the discussion: Pet Shop Boys: Israel not apartheid state [View all]shira
(30,109 posts)80. Yossi Gurvitz figured the International Left out...
Last edited Wed Jun 19, 2013, 06:23 PM - Edit history (1)
...for being rightwingers who couldn't care less about socialism.
http://972mag.com/time-for-a-changing-of-the-guard/
Maybe it's time you figure it out too.
Why the ad hoc alliance with international left activists is unhelpful to the Israeli left, and should end
One of the phenomena characterizing the coverage of the J14 protests from the beginning was the long faces of a significant number of notable international peace activists. But but but youre not talking about the occupation, they demanded of the marching Israelis. They were soundly ignored, the protest became a mass success, and they became much more bitter.
At one point it was during the third or fourth week of the protests one of them wrote it was a struggle about the price of cottage cheese. I politely invited him to join Netanyahus PR team. He was gravely insulted, and I sincerely hope he wont forgive me; yet the claims of many international activists against J14 were greatly similar to those of Netanyahus PR. We were told its the protest of people living in luxury, who fail to deal with the only real thing around here. Netanyahus bureau would call it The Second Independence War/The Second Zionist War/The Great War against the Dark Palestinian Conspiracy; the international activists just call it by that much more common name, the occupation.
As the protest grew stronger, they grew ever more bitter, spending much of their time mocking it. This behaviour raises two questions: One, just what sort of a leftist spends so much energy on opposing a protest intended to bring about a social-democratic regime, which did much to bring together Jews and Palestinians, and the only protest in the last decade at least which presented to a crowd of several hundred thousand Jews Palestinian speakers. The second question is: Just what the hell happened to your sense of solidarity? Why cant you show some good will towards people who stood by your side in the West Bank, and consumed alongside you bulk quantities of CS gas?
The depressing answer is were not dealing with leftist, but rather with Palestinian right-winger. They suffer from tunnel-vision: All they see is the occupation.
One of the phenomena characterizing the coverage of the J14 protests from the beginning was the long faces of a significant number of notable international peace activists. But but but youre not talking about the occupation, they demanded of the marching Israelis. They were soundly ignored, the protest became a mass success, and they became much more bitter.
At one point it was during the third or fourth week of the protests one of them wrote it was a struggle about the price of cottage cheese. I politely invited him to join Netanyahus PR team. He was gravely insulted, and I sincerely hope he wont forgive me; yet the claims of many international activists against J14 were greatly similar to those of Netanyahus PR. We were told its the protest of people living in luxury, who fail to deal with the only real thing around here. Netanyahus bureau would call it The Second Independence War/The Second Zionist War/The Great War against the Dark Palestinian Conspiracy; the international activists just call it by that much more common name, the occupation.
As the protest grew stronger, they grew ever more bitter, spending much of their time mocking it. This behaviour raises two questions: One, just what sort of a leftist spends so much energy on opposing a protest intended to bring about a social-democratic regime, which did much to bring together Jews and Palestinians, and the only protest in the last decade at least which presented to a crowd of several hundred thousand Jews Palestinian speakers. The second question is: Just what the hell happened to your sense of solidarity? Why cant you show some good will towards people who stood by your side in the West Bank, and consumed alongside you bulk quantities of CS gas?
The depressing answer is were not dealing with leftist, but rather with Palestinian right-winger. They suffer from tunnel-vision: All they see is the occupation.
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I asked if you were not promoting that Palestinian refugees be made citizens in the countries they
azurnoir
Jun 2013
#65
and BTW the BDS version of One State is for a secular democracy not a state of sharia law
azurnoir
Jun 2013
#60
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azurnoir
Jun 2013
#68
The BDS vision is as realistic as Alice Walker's Reptilian Space Aliens ruling the planet...
shira
Jun 2013
#73
so believing that there could be a secular democracy in Israel, is like believing in space reptilian
azurnoir
Jun 2013
#74
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