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GliderGuider

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18. I should have made it clear that I agree with your original point.
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 10:01 AM
Sep 2012

Last edited Tue Sep 25, 2012, 11:10 AM - Edit history (1)

Every fundamantal invention undergoes a long period of elaboration and refinement before it can become a game-changer.

When I use the word "game-changer", I'm looking at what technologies are required to support global industrial civilization in its current form - which ones are most pervasive in their influence. So while I agree that transistors were the breakthrough, they didn't become a game-changer until VLSI was developed.

In most cases it's the combination of technologies that really changes the game - steel plus the ICE plus the assembly line gave us the modern automobile, for example. but without any of the ones I listed, civilization as we know it could not exist.

But your basic point is absolutely valid - when we're looking at a 30 year projection, the assumption that today's technologies will be the main influences over that period is absolutely valid. Is there one example of a disruptive technology that blossomed in a single decade? I can't think of one.

My point is a follow-on from yours, that even if we were to introduce such a technology in a single decade the chance that it would come without any cost to human society or the planet is zero.

Thank you for that summary. Speck Tater Sep 2012 #1
Can't say whether or not this will happen... Eleanors38 Sep 2012 #3
You put your finger on the problem. Speck Tater Sep 2012 #4
I think you present a very clear picture of reality. GliderGuider Sep 2012 #8
My biggest concern... Blanks Sep 2012 #28
I see the problems of grid-dependence. The challenge in collapse is going back... Eleanors38 Sep 2012 #32
You're right. Those with skills will have a better chance. But... Speck Tater Sep 2012 #33
Nobody knows how things will unfold. GliderGuider Sep 2012 #34
I do believe you are absolutely correct on this. Speck Tater Sep 2012 #35
Understood. In austin, tx there is more wildlife and a river with fish. Eleanors38 Sep 2012 #38
Two Egg! genxlib Sep 2012 #26
Our family goes back to antebellum Florida; I have some old tales somewhere in print. nt Eleanors38 Sep 2012 #31
Is it worth buying the paper ourselves? truebrit71 Sep 2012 #2
Not for $20.00 GliderGuider Sep 2012 #5
Thank you for spending to ascertain, there is nothing really new, ... CRH Sep 2012 #7
Cool..thanks truebrit71 Sep 2012 #10
clarification needed AlecBGreen Sep 2012 #6
He's speaking in more general terms than that. GliderGuider Sep 2012 #9
One cannot predict the future because one cannot predict... Odin2005 Sep 2012 #11
Prediction is at the heart of scientific endeavor cprise Sep 2012 #12
LENR is a strong candidate as a break-out technology aletier_v Sep 2012 #13
Technologies like that generally solve one set of problems while creating new ones. GliderGuider Sep 2012 #16
But it is done all the time, and more often then not the predictions come true. happyslug Sep 2012 #14
Game-changing technologies GliderGuider Sep 2012 #15
My comment, was most predictions, based on facts, tend to be be very accurate. happyslug Sep 2012 #17
I should have made it clear that I agree with your original point. GliderGuider Sep 2012 #18
I would add the steam engine Speck Tater Sep 2012 #23
So, no worries about global warming then? NickB79 Sep 2012 #22
When did I say GW was not an issue? Odin2005 Sep 2012 #25
The entire science of GW is based on predicting the future with science NickB79 Sep 2012 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author GliderGuider Sep 2012 #36
Deleted the above: the topic is too serious for my gratuitous snark. nt GliderGuider Sep 2012 #37
A couple of thoughts Gregorian Sep 2012 #19
The wise ones are already refraining from reproduction. GliderGuider Sep 2012 #20
Sadly, a more prophetic film than people realize. Gregorian Sep 2012 #21
A voluntary decrease immediately The2ndWheel Sep 2012 #24
There's another problem with voluntary decrease in birth rate. Speck Tater Sep 2012 #29
It ends up being a multi-player "Prisoner's Dilemma" game GliderGuider Sep 2012 #30
Someone needs to check the accuracy of the Mayan calendar pscot Sep 2012 #39
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