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Demeter

(85,373 posts)
92. Zombie Europe
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 06:26 PM
Jan 2012
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/01/zombie-europe.html

One of the major themes that I have been discussing in Europe for a long period of time is the simple failure of logic in which the European periphery is being instructed to push deflationary policy onto their economies, yet at the same time expected to meet their existing, and growing, debt obligations. In the most extreme case this has led to what you now see in Greece, but I don’t think Portugal or Spain are far behind. This failing policy is leading to the ‘zombification’ of nations, in which they can’t grow out off their debts yet aren’t being allowed to fail on them either. Kept alive by an ever-growing lifeline of foreign aid when the real solution is to let the beast die and re-build from the ashes. I think if we compare Iceland to Ireland we are beginning to get a clear picture of the benefits of writing off the debts and starting anew.

As I have also spoken about over the last month or so, what is happening in the real economies of Europe is being replicated in the banking system. This is most apparent in the interbank market, as I said:

Although the LTRO does seem to have done some good for short term sovereign debt via supporting direct purchases, or at least the perception of them, it doesn’t appear to be helping in the area that central bank operations actually target. That is, interbank market stability.

The latest ECB data shows that banks parked a near record 446bn Euro in the ECB’s deposit facility, but this in itself isn’t a problem. What is the problem is that the increasing use of the ECB’s marginal lending facility shows that not all of these parked reserves are actually “excess to market requirements”.


What appears to be occurring is that banks are hoarding reserves instead of providing them to the interbank market. If I took a guess I would suggest that this being caused by deposits flowing out of periphery banks into the core (and probably some non-Euro markets). These flows require the periphery banks to recoup some of their lost reserves which they would normally do in the interbank market. If this is correct then appears that the banks themselves have already decided that there are some “Zombies” in the system. Under these circumstances what should occur is that these banks are identified, assessed and broken up in a structured way in order to purge the financial system of entities that are no longer solvent. Yes, this would mean that investors in those entities would be out of pocket, but that is the risk of investing which is why you get paid a premium. “Dividends” I believe they are called ! However, as I have stated numerous times, the Europeans appear to believe that the normal tenants of investing need not apply on their continent so we continually see policies implemented across Europe to keep the poison in the patient. The ECB’s 3-year LTRO is the latest incarnation of the band-aid to cover the ever-growing wound. Instead of properly stress testing the financial institutions to determine which ones are insolvent and in need of removal, we have an operation by the central bank to provide massive amounts of excessive liquidity. The hope is that this will stabilise the the interbank market and therefore banks will go on their merry way doing what banks do, that is providing credit to the private sector within the bounds of monetary policy.

This approach appears to be failing as, even Mr Draghi has admitted, the interbank market is still frozen. However, even if this wasn’t the case I doubt very much whether periphery banks would be falling over themselves to lend because: Firstly the banks appear to be using the facility to re-capitalise while at the same time they shrink their asset base in order to meet capital requirements, and secondly, in a poor economy the appetite and/or desire for credit is low and the availability of credit-worthy customers is limited...

Hello? Hello? Tansy_Gold Jan 2012 #1
Heya TG! Ruby the Liberal Jan 2012 #2
Hey! Tansy_Gold Jan 2012 #3
Keep it down, willya?!? Fuddnik Jan 2012 #4
If you're trying to watch CSI Tansy_Gold Jan 2012 #5
Just got in 5 minutes ago Demeter Jan 2012 #6
Send some of that warmth this way. n/t Po_d Mainiac Jan 2012 #41
$10 TRILLION Liquidity Injection Coming? Credit Suisse Hunkers Down Ahead Of The European Endgame Demeter Jan 2012 #7
Can someone explain this so ordinary folks know what's coming? Tansy_Gold Jan 2012 #8
I don't think anyone really knows, Tansy Demeter Jan 2012 #12
It doesn't look good from where I sit. Fuddnik Jan 2012 #17
Speaking of the skunk, I just meandered over to Automatic Earth and found this. Fuddnik Jan 2012 #18
Yeah. What would be the corresponding statistics for the States? The Skunk, you see, Ghost Dog Jan 2012 #19
Our town has a nice local restaurant DemReadingDU Jan 2012 #33
I am glad you are doing better...... AnneD Jan 2012 #71
Well, ZH has a tendency to go way over the top, on occasion. The 'soundbite' is based on Ghost Dog Jan 2012 #20
I don't really "understand" any of it, Tansy - but I don't think it matters bread_and_roses Jan 2012 #62
Not as far back as our reptile brains. Just a hundred and fifty years of Western social progress, Ghost Dog Jan 2012 #65
Think March 1930 to March 1933 happyslug Jan 2012 #101
IMF seeks $600 billion more in funds; G20 to discuss Demeter Jan 2012 #10
WHERE IN THE HOLY FUCK Tansy_Gold Jan 2012 #11
Well, now, that's the 10 Trillion Euro question, isn't it? Demeter Jan 2012 #13
Then I'm going to bed. Tansy_Gold Jan 2012 #16
I think that 10T is digitally printed for the banksters DemReadingDU Jan 2012 #23
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These voters may very likely stay home Tansy_Gold Jan 2012 #69
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Self-interest - regulation = greed. Tansy_Gold Jan 2012 #38
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Greece’s game plan By Felix Salmon Demeter Jan 2012 #40
Eurocrisis is a Global Crisis Demeter Jan 2012 #46
Münchau: We are fighting the wrong crisis Demeter Jan 2012 #47
Riiight. Ghost Dog Jan 2012 #59
IngSoc Newspeak. For 'Hedge' read 'Vulture', Alice says. Ghost Dog Jan 2012 #53
good morning -- i hope every one is fine -- sorry to hear, demeter, that xchrom Jan 2012 #42
Thanks. It is tiring and a trial Demeter Jan 2012 #44
here's to feeling better and to hopefully slowing down if only just a little xchrom Jan 2012 #48
Money Can Buy Happiness SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN Demeter Jan 2012 #43
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Housing starts Roland99 Jan 2012 #50
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CPI Roland99 Jan 2012 #52
THANK YOU!!! Tansy_Gold Jan 2012 #60
you're welcome! Roland99 Jan 2012 #72
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Spanish treasury celebrates successful long-term debt auctions xchrom Jan 2012 #56
Life expectancy falls in Spain xchrom Jan 2012 #57
One factor here will be the decrease in immigration. Ghost Dog Jan 2012 #63
It's going to be interesting to follow the effects xchrom Jan 2012 #64
Facing a dystopian future xchrom Jan 2012 #58
Commerzbank Shortfall 'Bigger Than First Thought' xchrom Jan 2012 #61
Commerzbank Halfway to Plugging Capital Hole, Won’t Need Aid; Stock Soars Ghost Dog Jan 2012 #67
i don't get it either. nt xchrom Jan 2012 #68
New job rant. Hotler Jan 2012 #70
It's been the rare IT job that I've been up and running in the 1st week Roland99 Jan 2012 #74
As long as... AnneD Jan 2012 #75
Anne your right. Hotler Jan 2012 #78
Ditto what AnneD says, and furthermore Tansy_Gold Jan 2012 #77
Thank you. SMW, There is no place like home. n/t Hotler Jan 2012 #79
Cyberfriends are good! DemReadingDU Jan 2012 #82
Some Days I Actually Prefer SMW to Home Demeter Jan 2012 #90
Rant to your hearts content....... AnneD Jan 2012 #80
"the check clears the bank". Hotler Jan 2012 #88
It is the little things.... AnneD Jan 2012 #95
Banking Holidays and Panics..... AnneD Jan 2012 #76
Leadership? Fuddnik Jan 2012 #81
I bring you ... AnneD Jan 2012 #85
The last paragraph DemReadingDU Jan 2012 #83
After they take their "fees" out first. Fuddnik Jan 2012 #84
"asymmetric information deficit", such an elegant way of saying Ghost Dog Jan 2012 #86
Heeeeee! n/t Hotler Jan 2012 #89
Obama's "tax-policy", the new puppet-in-waiting and the collapsed UBS business model. Ghost Dog Jan 2012 #87
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That's It, Tansy. I'm Too Pooped to Post Demeter Jan 2012 #99
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