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tech_smythe

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61. Now, now. we'll have NONE of that common sense and goldy rule crap here!

Thu Feb 9, 2012, 03:04 PM

Feb 2012

Don't you know the gender war is a brutal, vicious, winner takes nothing battle to the death royal!?
We can't have some liberal sissy (see op, and most replies) bandying about wanting EQUALITY!
WE ARE MEN!
We are the ENEMY after all!
/sarcasm

ok seriously, yeah I agree completely with you. I just wish some on the hard-core other side agreed

maybe we'd make some progress in all this.

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How do we advance men's liberation without making women feel like their rights are being infringed? [View all] Zalatix Jan 2012 OP

There are two feminist schools of thought lumberjack_jeff Jan 2012 #1

Liberation from what exactly (not sarcastic)? Deep13 Jan 2012 #2

Yes, that. Zalatix Jan 2012 #3

Do you not see those as burdens? Behind the Aegis Jan 2012 #4

Absolutely right. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2012 #5

Sure I do. Deep13 Jan 2012 #7

This is the reason I posted that Tough Guise clip. redqueen Jan 2012 #6

I'm glad you posted here. mistertrickster Feb 2012 #73

Do you remember the Elephant Man rape story which was posted in DU? redqueen Feb 2012 #77

Irrelevant. You stereotyped the whole website. mistertrickster Feb 2012 #78

I didn't stereotype anything. redqueen Feb 2012 #80

How many were unequivocal no votes mistertrickster Feb 2012 #86

Did I not explain clearly enough about being triggered? redqueen Feb 2012 #89

Being "triggered"? mistertrickster Feb 2012 #91

Why do you persist in the spinning? redqueen Feb 2012 #92

You claim that your words don't mean what they mean. mistertrickster Feb 2012 #93

"oddly that kind of PSTD doesn't seem to be on anybody's radar over in the Feminist group." redqueen Feb 2012 #94

Anything which compels you to be what your are not is a burden. bemildred Jan 2012 #14

i really try not to come in this forum, but this post is really about us. seabeyond Jan 2012 #8

+1. nt bemildred Jan 2012 #12

+1 tech_smythe Feb 2012 #50

OMGOD! SHE VIOLATED OUR SAFE SPACE! mistertrickster Feb 2012 #74

"2319! We have a code 2319!" Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #95

grinnin seabeyond Feb 2012 #99

It's one of a long list of skills I have that are completely un-marketable Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #104

lol seabeyond Feb 2012 #100

was i respectful? that is my intent. thank you. i am glad you are fine with you. seabeyond Feb 2012 #98

I believe you. mistertrickster Feb 2012 #101

i am sorry you feel that way. nt seabeyond Feb 2012 #102

I disagree that there is any intrinsic conflict of interest between men and women, bemildred Jan 2012 #9

Actually, I agree with that. nt mistertrickster Feb 2012 #75

Cool. bemildred Feb 2012 #105

As a man, I don't feel alienated when women speak of inequalities they face unless petronius Jan 2012 #10

Well said. nt bemildred Jan 2012 #11

Actually, what happens more often is the reverse Zalatix Jan 2012 #13

Yes and no. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2012 #15

Unfortunately, that happens a lot, even here on DU stevenleser Jan 2012 #27

I think sometimes it's better to just let the axe grinders get whatever it is out of their system. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #28

And may God save the poor SOB who rises to take the bait mistertrickster Feb 2012 #82

Er... You go in, if you must Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #96

Note to self -- you can't get in a bar fight mistertrickster Feb 2012 #97

Phallophobia. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #29

Did you check my responses to that? stevenleser Jan 2012 #30

I did. I haven't had time to read the whole subthread, yet... but as I'm sure you're aware Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #31

Okay, I'm laughing my ass off right now. mistertrickster Feb 2012 #79

What's even worse is when the hosts of the Feminist Group talk about DU mistertrickster Feb 2012 #76

Look, if I personally, literally said, verbatim "no better than anywhere else" redqueen Feb 2012 #81

Wow, your almost apology is almost accepted. nt mistertrickster Feb 2012 #83

Why should I apologize for something that for all I know redqueen Feb 2012 #84

See below-- mistertrickster Feb 2012 #85

You didn't, though. You added your spin. redqueen Feb 2012 #87

Okay, you might be right. mistertrickster Feb 2012 #90

Duct Tape. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #16

Speak of specific issues like custody rights Taverner Jan 2012 #17

I'm not sure men need to be "liberated", but I also don't think we need to apologize for being men. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #18

I think they do. ElboRuum Jan 2012 #19

I agree. I think we're actually saying pretty much the same thing Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #20

My initial reaction was the same as yours. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2012 #22

First off, we need to understand that there are SOME women who will never be happy with men, period. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #21

It is important for us individually to figure out what we want to be liberated from lumberjack_jeff Jan 2012 #23

the way I read the OP, it was asking in terms of womens' feelings, so that was where I framed it Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #24

It seems to be axiomatic in certain corners of the Blogosphere: The Dude Is Always Wrong™ Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #26

What issue did you have in mind? nt ZombieHorde Jan 2012 #25

Not with bad humor in GD. That doesn't work, I'm certain. MineralMan Jan 2012 #32

That thread wasn't an attack on anyone. Zalatix Jan 2012 #33

And it was hidden by a jury. Simple as that. MineralMan Jan 2012 #34

What attack was made against women? Can you show any? Zalatix Jan 2012 #35

Stereotyping. Very transparent. MineralMan Jan 2012 #36

But what about women did I attack? I was making fun of societal rules. Zalatix Jan 2012 #37

Has there been a scientific study on narcissistic women? MineralMan Jan 2012 #38

All of what I said is true. Every last bit of it. Zalatix Jan 2012 #39

Whatever. MineralMan Jan 2012 #40

If I'm incorrect then find an example of Zalatix Jan 2012 #41

You know, I'm not going to indulge you by doing that. MineralMan Jan 2012 #42

IOW you got nothin'. You claimed I'm wrong but you can't show where. Zalatix Jan 2012 #43

Threre's been a wave of man-bashing threads in GD past couple months Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #45

Hell, we men should be happy we're allowed here! Zalatix Jan 2012 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author tech_smythe Feb 2012 #52

Apparently you can... ElboRuum Jan 2012 #47

The WoT will continue, never you fear. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #48

Caught in the middle Zalatix Feb 2012 #51

I'm not a joiner, myself Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #53

I never came from any privilege Zalatix Feb 2012 #54

Okay. Historically men have had a lot of advantages. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #55

And how long do modern men have to pay the price for this? Zalatix Feb 2012 #56

one, which price are you currently being required to pay, and two, that wasn't my suggestion. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #57

One: Male bashing. Zalatix Feb 2012 #63

Yes they are, check my post below :) snooper2 Feb 2012 #68

yes, there have been studies on narcissistic women snooper2 Feb 2012 #67

hey snooper seabeyond Feb 2012 #69

With the right keywords googles find everything snooper2 Feb 2012 #70

ya know seabeyond Feb 2012 #72

MineralMan, do you have a problem with this? mistertrickster Feb 2012 #88

Do I have a problem with what? MineralMan Feb 2012 #103

Nice dodge. mistertrickster Feb 2012 #106

I think we send our outside linebacker left in a fake-out play to leave the toilet seat up Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #44

I just want to say, I'm in favor of vaginal satisfaction. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #49

Gender and LGBT issues are bourgeois narcissism. mistertrickster Feb 2012 #58

As far as "men's liberation" goes . . . mistertrickster Feb 2012 #59

I've found life much easier since I stopped worrying about what other people think. qb Feb 2012 #60

Now, now. we'll have NONE of that common sense and goldy rule crap here! tech_smythe Feb 2012 #61

+1. bemildred Feb 2012 #65

In my experience Broken_Hero Feb 2012 #62

Listen? I think it's also important to speak. "Women can't hear what men don't say." lumberjack_jeff Feb 2012 #64

I basically agree about everything you have stated. Broken_Hero Feb 2012 #66

My easy answer? mistertrickster Feb 2012 #71