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Honeycombe8

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56. Our country doesn't have a single payer system, so that's irrelevant.
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 06:07 PM
Mar 2013

This discussion is about what the ACA accomplished in our insurance-driven system.

Is it perfect? Absolutely not. No legislative bill is perfect. But it is helping millions of people who didn't have access to health care before.

If you don't care about your co-citizens getting health care, I wonder why you're so concerned about a health care system at all. If all that matters to you is if you have health care, and you have it, then you should be happy.

As for bankruptcies, in the U.S. a debtor cannot get care provider bills done away with in bankrtupcy. That law was passed not too long ago. Joe Biden voted for it or actually introduced the bill, as I recall. A very disturbing chapter in Biden's history (altho I otherwise love the guy). Very unfair and harmful to millions of people, who will be saddled with debt the rest of their lives due to one illness....until the ACA passed. The ACA requires NO LIFETIME CAP on coverage. It also does not allow rejection based on a pre-existing condition. It also doesn't allow dropping an insured because he files a claim. It also provides subsidies for policies, if you meet the criteria. It also expands Medicaid into the working poor class.

When you have a policy, now...you know how much out of pocket you will have for an entire year, up front. There should not be many surprises, like before. And the policy won't drop you...so you'll have that same policy the next year.

If you live in a state with exchanges, you will have a FEDERAL policy in your choices, is what I've read. But you will have an array of policies to choose from. I'm not in a state that will have exchanges, but I get my ins. through my employer, like most middle class people.

I hope I can hang in there until I qualify for Medicare at age 65.

He's not the only one not swayed by the hatred. We're still fortunate to have PBO. freshwest Mar 2013 #1
We are so very fortunate to have this President. sheshe2 Mar 2013 #7
Somehow I'd rec'd that but not really read it through in this context. Thanks, sheshe. freshwest Mar 2013 #9
You, freshwest are most welcome! n/t sheshe2 Mar 2013 #12
"Universal healthcare was achieved under Obama"? freedom fighter jh Mar 2013 #2
That statement wasn't quite correct. But it's close to making ins. coverage universally available. Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #6
Except for, oh I don't know, Medicare or the coverage afforded members of Congress or Armed Services DRoseDARs Mar 2013 #10
No, ins. coverage hasn't always been universally available to most of the people. Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #13
"Coverage" is not care eridani Mar 2013 #16
This is not a post about a national care system. This is a post about health care coverage. Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #46
It pays for it treestar Mar 2013 #49
No, insurance doesn't pay for health care--not if they turn down your claim eridani Mar 2013 #52
If they turn down a claim due to treestar Mar 2013 #53
Insurance companies turn down claims for things that are supposed to be covered all the time eridani Mar 2013 #54
Our country doesn't have a single payer system, so that's irrelevant. Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #56
Private insurance does not exist for the purpose of minimizing claims treestar Mar 2013 #57
It's a way of paying whose purpose is to provide health care for ALL eridani Mar 2013 #59
Murderers. Now you're getting out of hand. treestar Mar 2013 #60
Private insurance is the cause of people dying because they can't pay for health care eridani Mar 2013 #61
For the umpteenth time, this isn't a thread about a system our country doesn't have. It's about Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #55
Evidentally you didn't read my post close enough. "...available to anyone that can afford it." DRoseDARs Mar 2013 #19
No one can be denied emergency care...this is true. It's the law. Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #47
I'm in the same boat as you Honeycombe. I've got a few years to go until I can qualify for Medicare xtraxritical Mar 2013 #41
I feel for you. I have coverage now thru employer, but I was unemployed a short time Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #48
Happy Easter HC. I've seen that web site, thanks you. xtraxritical Mar 2013 #50
Andrew Sullivan is a conservagay. While he isn't as completely nutzoid as his contemporaries... DRoseDARs Mar 2013 #8
I will be happy to provide you with some links... sheshe2 Mar 2013 #14
This is (now) a thread on the Greatest Page. freedom fighter jh Mar 2013 #20
It does not matter that this OP sheshe2 Mar 2013 #22
Oh, I see, I could get barred from posting within the group. freedom fighter jh Mar 2013 #24
right d_b Mar 2013 #18
President Obama still remains Strong in the face Cha Mar 2013 #3
From your post, Cha sheshe2 Mar 2013 #26
No worries, she.. I see you Cha Mar 2013 #38
If a person just hangs around DU all the time, Jamaal510 Mar 2013 #30
Exactly Jamaal.. Cha Mar 2013 #40
APPLAUSE APPLAUSE APPLAUSE. Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #4
Thank you Honeycombe8! sheshe2 Mar 2013 #15
Universal health care achieved kairos12 Mar 2013 #5
I think that you should be talking to your Governor...and the rest of the GOP sheshe2 Mar 2013 #11
OK thanks for the information kairos12 Mar 2013 #37
kairos, there is this too. sheshe2 Mar 2013 #43
And your problems are Obama's fault, how? freshwest Mar 2013 #17
Thanks for the chart, freshwest! Cha Mar 2013 #21
I've no idea which ones have or haven't. But traditional Medicaid, as in my OP here, covers more. freshwest Mar 2013 #23
Is that the result of last fall's election? freedom fighter jh Mar 2013 #25
It was, or about the same. The fight is within the states, where it always was. freshwest Mar 2013 #33
~~~ sheshe2 Mar 2013 #29
+1 and Thank you! sheshe2 Mar 2013 #27
What a wonderful colorful map kairos12 Mar 2013 #34
WHAT UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE? Demeter Mar 2013 #28
Please read post #22 sheshe2 Mar 2013 #32
OK, this is pathetic. salib Mar 2013 #31
Please read post #22 sheshe2 Mar 2013 #35
sullivan writes a good article that I agree with. riverbendviewgal Mar 2013 #36
Welcome to the BOG, riverbend. sheshe2 Mar 2013 #39
Hi riverbendviewgal.. you have our US media's number! Cha Mar 2013 #42
Cha sheshe2 Mar 2013 #44
Look at you with your Cha Mar 2013 #45
I have looked at The Obama Diary quite a few times riverbendviewgal Mar 2013 #62
Andrew Sullivan is a conservative. He never misses a chance to refer dismissively to "lefies" as if MotherPetrie Mar 2013 #51
Memo to the OP: bvar22 Mar 2013 #58
That's a fair point, but on the other hand, ucrdem Apr 2013 #63
Gee I didn't know Sully felt this way. ucrdem Apr 2013 #64
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