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Barack Obama

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sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
Thu Aug 6, 2015, 06:12 PM Aug 2015

An Argument I'm Sick of Hearing! [View all]

**************Barack Obama Group***************

Bernie Sanders is hardly the first person to make this argument. But he's the one that is running for president and should know better. So let's take a look at what he said and break it down.

I think the evidence is overwhelming that the Republicans, the John Boehners, Mitch McConnells and others had zero intention of negotiating with the President on any serious compromising. Their function and their goal was to obstruct, obstruct, obstruct, and to quite frankly it took the President too many years to figure that out and I think in the last couple years he has been a stronger President and a better President because he understands there is nothing to negotiate with these guys.


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The whole idea of a candidate for president suggesting that our Chief Executive shouldn't negotiate with the opposition frankly sounds like something Sen. Ted Cruz would propose. And given the make-up of Congress, it would lead to the result Cruz got in 2013 - perpetual government shut-downs. If a Democratic president were to follow such a path, voters would be right to blame her/him for that. That is NOT the way to advance a progressive agenda.

When it comes to his own presidential aspirations, perhaps Sanders assumes that he'll be swept into office with a Democratic majority in the House and a super-majority in the Senate. That would allow him to only have to negotiate with Democrats (good luck with that, Bernie!) But short of that, at some point someone needs to ask him whether or not he envisions four years of government shut-downs amidst zero legislative accomplishments as he refuses to negotiate with Republicans.


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It's a ridiculous argument, but I consider the source. BS wanted to primary Obama in '12. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2015 #1
I so agree with you Tarheel. sheshe2 Aug 2015 #2
Until I saw that factoid posted here, I didn't know that. It would have changed my mind about him. freshwest Aug 2015 #3
Exactly, Tarheel.. he said "millions were deeply disappointed in him because.. Cha Aug 2015 #10
Look at the bright side, if he keeps saying shit like that William769 Aug 2015 #4
Righteous rant, William. brer cat Aug 2015 #5
Bernie seems to be his own worst enemy. sheshe2 Aug 2015 #6
"he is for women when it suits him" George II Aug 2015 #12
no demilib Aug 2015 #35
Yeah, he's using the Democratic party's platform to run against the Successful and Popular Cha Aug 2015 #13
President Obama has been very successful. yallerdawg Aug 2015 #7
1,000% with you on that. Same experience, too. n/t freshwest Aug 2015 #19
+10000~ sheshe2 Aug 2015 #25
Yeah, I know what smartypants means, she.. As if the President didn't know the gop Cha Aug 2015 #8
Wrong sandbox, but nice try. n/t bvf Aug 2015 #9
You are so right! sheshe2 Aug 2015 #11
No, you didn't make a good "try" at all. Better luck next time. Cha Aug 2015 #14
Looked to me like a defense of Obama against the obstructions he got in Congress. Cleita Aug 2015 #15
Bernie's statement makes perfect sense to me. jalan48 Aug 2015 #16
The Caucus Room conspiracy. Cleita Aug 2015 #17
Exactly. These Republicans are some fucked up people. jalan48 Aug 2015 #18
No, BS is condescending as hell.. telling it took President Obama too long to figure it out.. Cha Aug 2015 #22
Sorry-my bad. I didn't realize I wasn't supposed to comment here. jalan48 Aug 2015 #23
Groups have SOPS. sheshe2 Aug 2015 #33
FYI, this was alerted as an SOP violation of the Barack Obama group. Needless to say, I do not agree stevenleser Aug 2015 #20
Oh yeah.. the alerter can't stand to have us talking about President Obama in the BOG Cha Aug 2015 #21
Lol~ sheshe2 Aug 2015 #26
Yeah, the consensus in the BOG is.. Your POST Did Not Violate Statement of Purpose, she. Cha Aug 2015 #27
I know Steve, thanks! sheshe2 Aug 2015 #24
Yeah, she.. does not matter that a non Democrat is using our Democratic Platform Cha Aug 2015 #28
Given that Senator Sanders (I-VT) has run as a Democrat before... yallerdawg Aug 2015 #29
Yep, he's good. sheshe2 Aug 2015 #30
You just made me so happy! Tarheel_Dem Aug 2015 #32
I'm not locking it either. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2015 #31
Some of it I think is pure frustration that more could have gotten done if it had not been for davidpdx Aug 2015 #34
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